Whilst they may have reservations.
How many of the same 'highly educated people' have said they will refuse to take the vaccine?
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How many of the same 'highly educated people' have said they will refuse to take the vaccine?
Oh you sweet summer child.
Chances of surviving a night out on Hoth without shelter : 725 - 1.
Chances of successfully navigating an asteroid field : 3,720 - 1
Chances of getting a blood clot and dying after an AZ jab : 1,063,158 - 1
(Forgive me Dantes I rounded up).
Unfortunately we never got to find out the chances of surviving a direct assault on an Imperial Star Destroyer but I’m guessing survivability is less likely than an AZ jab.
However, we can say that at 14,000,605 - 1 you have more chance of dying from a blood clot after an AZ jab than defeating a full Infinity Gauntlet powered Thanos.
Chances of successfully navigating an asteroid field : 3,720 - 1
Chances of getting a blood clot and dying after an AZ jab : 1,063,158 - 1
(Forgive me Dantes I rounded up).
Unfortunately we never got to find out the chances of surviving a direct assault on an Imperial Star Destroyer but I’m guessing survivability is less likely than an AZ jab.
However, we can say that at 14,000,605 - 1 you have more chance of dying from a blood clot after an AZ jab than defeating a full Infinity Gauntlet powered Thanos.
You don't say.
How often do you play the Lotto?
What's the chances of dying from a winning lottery ticket?
Whenever I feel like it.
When will my ability to travel abroad be curtailed by my failure to do the Lotto ?
Whenever whatever destination abroad you want to go to decides you have to play the Lotto to go there.
That sounds distinctly possible though.
Could certainly shorten the time spent in palliative care.
So never
Seems like everyone I know has been vaccinated. Symptoms seem to be a reduction in anxiety.
Understandable mate but please get your GP's advice before finally deciding.
I will do, and I'm sure I'll probably end up getting the 2nd vaccine, I'm probably just being a bit paranoid because I know something isn't quite right anyway.
Right now I have a 20 year old daughter who won't have it because of the unknown long-term effects on fertility and general health (she also has an autoimmune disease so is being super careful either way) and a Mrs who is holding back on having it for the same reasons of the unknown long-term effects. I feel like everyone who pointed out about the hurried release of the vaccine is rightfully saying "told yer so".
If you literally mean - will playing a money based lottery impact your ability to travel overseas - then, only in the event you spend all your travel money playing it and can’t afford to pay for the travel, I guess.
If you mean the metaphorical lottery of getting a jab that has a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of killing you with a blood clot - the requirement to have it is not yours - the choice to meet the requirements to have it in order to travel to someone else’s country is yours.
I’m sure your fellow countrymen would appreciate you only bringing back memories, fridge magnets, photos and a smile from your trip abroad - rather than something else that might lead to their own freedoms being impinged further.
I'm not sure that 'rightly saying' is all that accurate.
The vaccines have, mostly (not all) been based on (I think Pizer's and Moderna's are 'new tech'?) standard, proven, processes.
It seems that the media, naturally, love to fear-monger by blowing it out of all context, whilst the lunatic conspiracy theorists (whom we are not short of on this forum) pick up on it with utter gusto.
In Europe the EMA can't agree on anything (with EMA offices in different countries disagreeing with each other) and one has to suspect more than a degree of unseemly politicking since the statistics don't support the reaction of some countries, simply put not taking it is far more of a risk than taking it - as is the case with most vaccines.
The charity 'Thrombosis UK's website is worth a gander to clarify the general risks of thrombosis, e.g. more people die of a thrombosis each year than all of those in Car Accidents, Breast Cancer and AIDS put together, in fact 1 in 4 people in the UK die from a thrombosis, so it's actually a very prominent cause of death in society in general, making it far more difficult to confirm any effects that are specifically due to the vaccines. There's also a section on Covid & Thrombosis.
https://thrombosisuk.org/
Lots of information and pdf downloads here: https://thrombosisuk.org/information-fact-sheets.php
This is the missive that may interest most on here (the first bolded paragraph may apply to Mark's daughter) with Thrombosis UK's statement naturally cautious :
The benefits of vaccination continue to outweigh any risks but we are advising that careful consideration be given to people who are at higher risk of specific types of blood clots because of their medical condition.
The scientific review of UK reports of extremely rare and unlikely to occur specific blood clots with lowered platelets has concluded that the evidence of a link with COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca is stronger but more work is still needed.
By 31 March, 20.2 million doses of the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca had been given in the UK meaning the overall risk of these blood clots is approximately 4 people in a million who receive the vaccine. We would advise that anyone who did not have these side effects should come forward for their second dose when invited.
The data suggest there is a slightly higher incidence reported in the younger adult age groups and we are advising that this evolving evidence should be taken into account when considering the use of the vaccine.
Yeah, the mRNA vaccines are new, although they have been in development for a few years now. There's talk of them being used as potentially game changing cancer treatments, but they say that every time something new appears.
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Israeli study says South African Covid-19 variant can evade Pfizer vaccine
The study did not reveal any data to show if the variant would still cause serious illness among those who have been vaccinated.
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THE SOUTH AFRICAN coronavirus variant is better at “breaking through” the the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine than other forms of the virus, an Israeli study has found.
However, one of the authors said that while the study showed the variant to be relatively successful in infecting vaccinated people, it did not provide any data on whether it could generate serious illness among patients who had been vaccinated.
The study by Tel Aviv University and Clalit Health Services, Israel’s largest healthcare provider, compared 400 unvaccinated people infected with Covid-19 to 400 partially or fully vaccinated people who also had the virus.
According to the study, published as a draft on Saturday and currently being peer reviewed, the South African variant accounted for less than one percent of coronavirus cases in Israel.
But, among the 150 people in the study who were fully vaccinated and had Covid-19, “the prevalence rate (of the South African variant) was eight times higher than the rate in the unvaccinated (individuals),” the study said.
“This means that the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, though highly protective, probably does not provide the same level of protection against the South African (B.1.351) variant of the coronavirus,” the study added.
Israeli study says South African Covid-19 variant can evade Pfizer vaccine
The study did not reveal any data to show if the variant would still cause serious illness among those who have been vaccinated.
4 hours ago 23,642 22
THE SOUTH AFRICAN coronavirus variant is better at “breaking through” the the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine than other forms of the virus, an Israeli study has found.
However, one of the authors said that while the study showed the variant to be relatively successful in infecting vaccinated people, it did not provide any data on whether it could generate serious illness among patients who had been vaccinated.
The study by Tel Aviv University and Clalit Health Services, Israel’s largest healthcare provider, compared 400 unvaccinated people infected with Covid-19 to 400 partially or fully vaccinated people who also had the virus.
According to the study, published as a draft on Saturday and currently being peer reviewed, the South African variant accounted for less than one percent of coronavirus cases in Israel.
But, among the 150 people in the study who were fully vaccinated and had Covid-19, “the prevalence rate (of the South African variant) was eight times higher than the rate in the unvaccinated (individuals),” the study said.
“This means that the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, though highly protective, probably does not provide the same level of protection against the South African (B.1.351) variant of the coronavirus,” the study added.
Had my 1st AZ jab on Saturday (slightly surprised as only 41) and only side effects have been a dull ache around injection site and a headache the following day. Although there’s every chance the headache could’ve been caused by IPAs I was drinking Saturday night
Being 41, I'd make the assumption that you display some elitist snobbery about the alcohol you drink, chose some pretentious unheard of brewery, therefore bypassing the regulatory controls enforced upon larger commercial manufacturers, and ended up drinking a load of paint thinner for your trouble. That duly thinned your blood, which is why you have avoided the other side effect.
I had my AZ Jab last night. Arm is sore, limbs are a bit heavy and I'm just waiting to see how long it takes for the swelling on my new 3rd testicle to die down.
The wife also got it last night and she's been laid flat today, migraine, sorry limbs and a tingly spine.
Not sure about the status of her new testicle though.
The wife also got it last night and she's been laid flat today, migraine, sorry limbs and a tingly spine.
Not sure about the status of her new testicle though.
Mrs Doubt Pfizer