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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

What’s the death rate for those who get a blood clot from COVID?

It's in the post, nomad carelessly added a couple of 0's, so it's 0.0001% of hospitalised patients.

They die, from a blood clot, after being in ICU laid out flat on a bed with no movement for several days, and the surgeons playing roulette with how much blood thinning med to inject you with.

4 times that rate die after walking into a clinic, not a care in the world, no reason they should suddenly collapse and die this particular week of all weeks, but they get jabbed, get banged.
 
It's in the information

20.2m get vaccinated.

79 get blood clots.

19 died of blood clots.

30% of COVID patients that get admitted to an ICU get a blood clot.

Am I missing an earlier post where Nomad laid out how many of the COVID patients that developed blood clots died?
 
Are you taking the piss? Or did Nomad mind trick you into not seeing it?

79 is 0.000004% of 20.2m

19 is 0.000001% of 20.2m.

I don’t know how many people that 30% of ICU patients represents - or how many of them died?

So I’m not following where Ross makes the assertion that the 19 people that died from post AZ blood clots represents 4 times the death rate of COVID patients that developed blood clots.
 
Ross did not account for the fact that Nomad is even more careless with his word sequencing as he is with his numbers.
 
I read that as - if you catch COVID and get it bad - there’s a fairly large chance you’ll suffer a blood clot - for whatever reason.

If you get the AZ vaccine there’s a very small chance that it might cause a blood clot - from which you might die.

You, me, everyone then has to make a decision about whether the risk of catching COVID and ending up in an ICU outweigh the small risk of getting a blood clot from the vaccination.

I don’t think that’s pretty controversial.
 
Ross did not account for the fact that Nomad is even more careless with his word sequencing as he is with his numbers.


So are you saying you too just completely mis-interpreted what Nomad actually wrote, but can’t quite bring yourself to just say that?
 
On 6th April there were 469 Covid patients on ventilation in the UK. If 30% of those get blood clots, thats 141 on that day alone.

There have been 79 blood clots in total for the 20m that have had the OxAZ vaccine.
 
So are you saying you too just completely mis-interpreted what Nomad actually wrote, but can’t quite bring yourself to just say that?

You'll have to set out how you'd like me to interpret your question in a little more detail, and then I'll circle back to you on it.
 
79 is 0.000004% of 20.2m

19 is 0.000001% of 20.2m.

I don’t know how many people that 30% of ICU patients represents - or how many of them died?

So I’m not following where Ross makes the assertion that the 19 people that died from post AZ blood clots represents 4 times the death rate of COVID patients that developed blood clots.
He's being deliberately obtuse, because I put the deaths under the ICU stat. Rather than above it. Making out that the 19 deaths were related to the 30% of ICU patients.
 
It's in the post, nomad carelessly added a couple of 0's, so it's 0.0001% of hospitalised patients.

They die, from a blood clot, after being in ICU laid out flat on a bed with no movement for several days, and the surgeons playing roulette with how much blood thinning med to inject you with.

4 times that rate die after walking into a clinic, not a care in the world, no reason they should suddenly collapse and die this particular week of all weeks, but they get jabbed, get banged.
For the avoidance of doubt. I didn't put any extra zeros in Dantes. You do the math sunshine. 19 divided by 20.2m equals? Theres a good lad.
 
Australia has advised people under 50 not to get the AZ vaccine due to “rare chance” of getting a blood clot.

1 person out of 400,000 vaccinated suffered a blood clot, so far.
 
For the avoidance of doubt. I didn't put any extra zeros in Dantes. You do the math sunshine. 19 divided by 20.2m equals? Theres a good lad.

Had the use of canes not been abolished, you might have paid more attention to your maths teacher in kindergarten.
 
Had the use of canes not been abolished, you might have paid more attention to your maths teacher in kindergarten.
That's right. When you're wrong, you start twitching and go on the attack.

You love to see it.

Most normal people would admit their mistake. But dantes doesn't make mistakes.

19 divided by 20.2m equals what Dantes?
 
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That's right. When you're wrong, you start twitching and go on the attack.

You love to see it.

Most normal people would admit their mistake. But dantes doesn't make mistakes.

19 divided by 20.2m equals what Dantes?

19 / 20000000 = 0.000001

This number is called a decimal. From the prefix 'dec' which refers to ten, so the units are all incremented in groups of ten. Wikipedia will have a good article about this.

0.000001 x 100% = 0.00001%

This number is called a percentage. From the suffix 'cent' which refers to a hundred, so the units are a fraction of one hundred. Again I refer you to wikipedia. Let me know if you need some further help on this, I can demonstrate it to you with a couple of toy cows.
 
19 / 20000000 = 0.000001

This number is called a decimal. From the prefix 'dec' which refers to ten, so the units are all incremented in groups of ten. Wikipedia will have a good article about this.

0.000001 x 100% = 0.00001%

This number is called a percentage. From the suffix 'cent' which refers to a hundred, so the units are a fraction of one hundred. Again I refer you to wikipedia. Let me know if you need some further help on this, I can demonstrate it to you with a couple of toy cows.
Well now you've put too many 0's in.

Fair enough I stand corrected on the decimals and percentage.

0.0001% chance of death with a diagnosis of a blood clot
0.0004% chance of blood clot
From the vaccine

>30% chance of blood clot if admitted to ICU from COVID

So once again. I'll still take my chances.
 
You don't have a 30% chance. The entire population in aggregate has a 30% chance. For you, as an individual, you have a 0% or 100% chance of dying from a blood clot after a stint in ICU, and you have a 0% or 100% chance of dying from a blood clot after getting the jab. It's not a casino game, these things will or will not happen with absolute certainty. The fact you can't predict the outcome doesn't suddenly turn it into a roll of the dice.

You'd guess the 0% outcome in both circumstances, and turn out to be right. But which one are you more likely to have gotten wrong? You might even have gotten both wrong in which case mathematics is the least of your problems you poor unlucky bastard. For most people they can understand the biological consequences of getting the virus, and if they're young with no conditions they can assure themselves that it's not a death sentence and it really is 0% for them. However, these people don't understand the biochemical consequences of getting the jab, even the manufacturers are clueless about that. Your age and fitness are totally irrelevant and do not protect you from an adverse side effect. So they would assess that they're more likely to be wrong about the jab than they are about the virus. This is perfectly sensible. You've evolved to assess risks in this way, and evolution is a better guide than some retarded professor talking about the data.

When you point to the statistical data from the population, and you think you're being a scientist and on the side of numbers and so forth, you're not. That sort of science is just bad and a stupid way to model any phenomena (apart from quantum mechanics and casino games, because they're the only things in the universe that are actually random). The person who goes through the thought processes in the paragraph above is being a better scientist than the statistical data science type morons who have brainwashed you.
 
No, it's known as you've never modelled any phenomena before in your life and don't understand how to do it. Another example is retards like superman saying getting a plane is statistically safer than crossing a road. I'd cross the road every single time, because I can assure that I do it with 0% risk every single time. So it's safe. Getting on a plane is just a waiting game before one falls out of the sky with you on it. I'm doing my best to explain it in words for you, alas your brain is too small. Carry on.
 
Studies have shown it's mainly highly educated people that have reservations about the vaccine.
 
No, it's known as you've never modelled any phenomena before in your life and don't understand how to do it. Another example is retards like superman saying getting a plane is statistically safer than crossing a road. I'd cross the road every single time, because I can assure that I do it with 0% risk every single time. So it's safe. Getting on a plane is just a waiting game before one falls out of the sky with you on it. I'm doing my best to explain it in words for you, alas your brain is too small. Carry on.
Ever been to Greece?
 
I can imagine Dantes waiting 10 minutes to cross a road in Athens just to be creamed by a delivery guy on a moped with two takeaway coffees in one hand.
 
Usually if someone has to keep telling you they’re really smart and switched on - it usually means they aren’t anywhere near as smart and switched on as they think they are.
 
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