Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?
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PORTLAND, Ore. (PORTLAND TRIBUNE) — A small number of vaccinated Oregonians have nevertheless tested positive for the novel coronavirus — and three of them died, according to the Oregon Health Authority.
OHA reports that 168 vaccinated individuals across 25 Oregon counties have received a positive COVID-19 test result at least 14 days after receiving their final dose of the vaccine.
Such “breakthrough cases,” as the phenomenon is officially termed, are not unexpected, and can be prevented through simple steps such as masking up and physical distancing while in public, as well as avoiding social gatherings.
“It’s a reminder that while the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccines are all highly effective at preventing severe COVID-19 illness and death, no vaccine is 100% effective, and vaccine breakthrough cases will occur,” according to a news release.
Officials say around 76 breakthrough cases were reported in the metro region, 29 in the region that includes Marion, Polk and Linn counties, and the remainder spread across the rest of the state. The location of the deaths was not disclosed.
More than 1.4 million Oregonians have received at least one jab in the arm, compared with roughly 170,000 who have tested positive for COVID since the outbreak began more than a year ago. Nearly 2,500 deaths have been linked to the disease.
Experts say most of the breakthrough individuals experienced “asymptomatic infection” and were only tested for COVID-19 by happenstance. But 11% of those who tested positive were hospitalized within 30 days, though OHA says they were predominantly older than 65 or had underlying health conditions.
“State and local epidemiologists are continuing to track and investigate vaccine breakthrough cases and are working closely with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to collect information that may provide insight into characteristics associated with vaccine breakthrough,” according to the news release.
https://www.koin.com/news/health/co...covid-deaths-reported-among-those-vaccinated/
OHA reports that 168 vaccinated individuals across 25 Oregon counties have received a positive COVID-19 test result at least 14 days after receiving their final dose of the vaccine.
Such “breakthrough cases,” as the phenomenon is officially termed, are not unexpected, and can be prevented through simple steps such as masking up and physical distancing while in public, as well as avoiding social gatherings.
“It’s a reminder that while the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccines are all highly effective at preventing severe COVID-19 illness and death, no vaccine is 100% effective, and vaccine breakthrough cases will occur,” according to a news release.
Officials say around 76 breakthrough cases were reported in the metro region, 29 in the region that includes Marion, Polk and Linn counties, and the remainder spread across the rest of the state. The location of the deaths was not disclosed.
More than 1.4 million Oregonians have received at least one jab in the arm, compared with roughly 170,000 who have tested positive for COVID since the outbreak began more than a year ago. Nearly 2,500 deaths have been linked to the disease.
Experts say most of the breakthrough individuals experienced “asymptomatic infection” and were only tested for COVID-19 by happenstance. But 11% of those who tested positive were hospitalized within 30 days, though OHA says they were predominantly older than 65 or had underlying health conditions.
“State and local epidemiologists are continuing to track and investigate vaccine breakthrough cases and are working closely with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to collect information that may provide insight into characteristics associated with vaccine breakthrough,” according to the news release.
https://www.koin.com/news/health/co...covid-deaths-reported-among-those-vaccinated/
The most important part of that Israeli study is that the SA variant fails to take hold where the Kent variant is dominant.
We've known for a long time that the SA variant is the one we need to avoid as vaccines are less effective with that one. But it turns out the SA variant is less transmissible than the Kent variant so SA struggles to spread when Kent is already there.
Great news for us and all other countries where the UK variant is most common.
Terrible news for the anti-vaxers.
We've known for a long time that the SA variant is the one we need to avoid as vaccines are less effective with that one. But it turns out the SA variant is less transmissible than the Kent variant so SA struggles to spread when Kent is already there.
Great news for us and all other countries where the UK variant is most common.
Terrible news for the anti-vaxers.
Cos I can't be bothered.. and maybe those in the countries know better.
@Modo - how's the numbers in Sweden going? I recal it being the go to argument for anti lockdowners.
@LeTallecWiz how's things in Israel.
Was forging ahead with the vaccines
What are the numbers looking like atm? Lockdown restrictions eased etc?
Was surprised UK had single digits deaths, seems to be doing very well considering.
I'm sure there will be a slight increase now that lockdown is moving onto the next level but hopefully it'll stay low.
Testing will be the main thing now and the hope people are responsible test regularly and don't go out.
I saw something about a 20s spit test that's 99% accurate a few weeks ago.
@Modo - how's the numbers in Sweden going? I recal it being the go to argument for anti lockdowners.
@LeTallecWiz how's things in Israel.
Was forging ahead with the vaccines
What are the numbers looking like atm? Lockdown restrictions eased etc?
Was surprised UK had single digits deaths, seems to be doing very well considering.
I'm sure there will be a slight increase now that lockdown is moving onto the next level but hopefully it'll stay low.
Testing will be the main thing now and the hope people are responsible test regularly and don't go out.
I saw something about a 20s spit test that's 99% accurate a few weeks ago.
Like many other countries, we were unprepared. Our government decided to give our public health agency free rein and followed every recommendation they had.
Didn't seem like too bad of an idea following the expert's advice In the beginning, but it totally backfired. It's still unofficial but they were clearly going for herd immunity, which inevitably lead to us getting hit hard by both the first and the second wave.
After that the government basically said "to hell with it" and started recommending mask wearing in public and prolonging previously set restrictions
To answer your question, our numbers are going down atm, but there's been too many preventable deaths. A large majority belong to the older generations. We just couldn't keep the virus out of our nursing homes, both private and public.
We're at about 13000 deaths atm and we also have among the highest infection rates in Europe. 857401 confirmed cases of Covid, that's close to 1/10 of the population!
Around 16% procent of the adult population have received the vaccine. Those belonging to the older generations are obviously being prioritised.
The vaccine roll out has been slow and some have shown a reluctance to take the vaccine. So we're now starting to fear that a third wave is incoming.
Sick/dead Numbers plummeting here ... country is opening up fully in 2 weeks it seems.
Don't Israel have one of the highest vaccination rates ? And weren't they one of the first to introduce mass vaccination? A strong case for vaccinating then.
I don't know the exact number - I've stayed away from reading all the virus stuff the last few months.
We've vaccinated over 60% of our total population, which is most of it as we've not vaccinated kids under 18.
Pfizer & Moderna (sp?)
There's been no issues.
Most of the corona wards have shut down in the last week - with all the rates dropping.
There were some fright when we found various mutations (English, SA, Cali) but so far, all good.
Country will open up to tourism within a month it seems - if you've been vaccinated etc.
I went out to a shopping center with my wife a few days ago, and got a bit to eat. It was surreal - never realized how much we took such 'normal' stuff for granted.
Israel seem to be the great example of how to do it well. Cautious opening up and only when vaccine rollout has reached very high numbers.
Chile seem to be the example of how not to do it. Vaccine rollout going well (just slightly behind the UK) but opened up too early. Now back into lockdowns driven by the infection surges in the unvaccinated.
Yep...
Honestly mate? We fucked up so many times pre vaccination.
a) we should have closed the airport and borders on day 1 - i.e. no one in, no one out ... and then => no new mutations, or sick people leaving/coming in.
b) after wave 1 - which with a full lockdown, we ended it _too_ early and opened the schools ... and shit hit the fan again.
c) after wave 2, we did the same thing
d) after wave 3 ... well we got lucky and we paid _extra_ to Pfizer to get vaccinations 1st as our healthcare set up would ensure we could vaccinate quickly and efficiently. They started with the elderly & healthcare professionals (I think teachers should have been prioritized too) - and were vaccinating shot 1, and then 2 weeks later, shot 2.
We'll come out of it ok but the damage has been done already - families are torn apart (either divorces, upsurge in abuse etc or financially), businesses are wrecked and it will take a while to fix shit unfortunately. I guess I shouldn't be complaining considering where other countries, but when I have so many friends who are in the shitter - it's tough not to.
I don't know about what's happened earlier in Israel, but the rest of the world is watching in envy in the way you guys are opening up now.
Yah now it's really good - but we fucked up plenty to get here, like most countries (bar New Zealand and a few lucky places like that).
The key is vaccination and masks/social distancing.
I think wearing a mask will become the 'norm' for many of us now.
It's a serious question to the world leaders but I can't see many countries who handled it very well early on.
And again, I'll give credit to Boris and crew because numbers seem to be pretty low in the UK. The vaccine roll out has gone pretty well. There's plenty of people who'll say the early mess and confused messages led to a number of deaths. Like @LeTallecWiz mention though very few countries dealt with that well.
Was interested in Sweden because it was the golden child, just do whatever and herd immunity will sort it.
As for the broken families, abuse and financials etc, it's a peeling back of the paper to reveal the huge cracks in society, community and humanity that these Lockdowns and Corona has exposed.
Our systems are not necessarily ready to deal with these kinda issues and unfortunately seems as if some govt have taken advantage of the situation to power grab and gain more control over people's lives
And again, I'll give credit to Boris and crew because numbers seem to be pretty low in the UK. The vaccine roll out has gone pretty well. There's plenty of people who'll say the early mess and confused messages led to a number of deaths. Like @LeTallecWiz mention though very few countries dealt with that well.
Was interested in Sweden because it was the golden child, just do whatever and herd immunity will sort it.
As for the broken families, abuse and financials etc, it's a peeling back of the paper to reveal the huge cracks in society, community and humanity that these Lockdowns and Corona has exposed.
Our systems are not necessarily ready to deal with these kinda issues and unfortunately seems as if some govt have taken advantage of the situation to power grab and gain more control over people's lives
Yeah - Australia is pretty much back to as close as you can to normal now, domestically - you only need to wear masks on public transport, hospitals, nursing homes, etc.
Still a mandatory 2 week quarantine in a designated quarantine hotel for coming into the country.
We’re getting a travel bubble with NZ shortly.
The vaccine rollout has been slow - but that’s kind of ok when we don’t have many cases to worry about - but we’re now going in to winter - which was when we fucked it all last year.
The missus is getting the Pfizer jab on Friday - fuck knows when I’ll get offered it.
I have to agree with LTW - control your border, adhere to social distancing, wear a mask, vaccinate and then employ a bit of common sense and vigilance thereafter - seems to be the sensible approach.
There is a fear that, although the Economy is moving towards where it was Pre-COVID, that there are some difficult economic times still to come for some industries.
Pubs and restaurants will still be hit pretty hard for a while I’d imagine - the feeling is that attitudes and habits have changed in such a way that things will never quite be the same for some in those sectors.
I have a few colleagues that are expecting a delayed spree of business closures as pubs & restaurants try to muddle through, but without enough turnover to make them viable, slowly start to fall over.
Still a mandatory 2 week quarantine in a designated quarantine hotel for coming into the country.
We’re getting a travel bubble with NZ shortly.
The vaccine rollout has been slow - but that’s kind of ok when we don’t have many cases to worry about - but we’re now going in to winter - which was when we fucked it all last year.
The missus is getting the Pfizer jab on Friday - fuck knows when I’ll get offered it.
I have to agree with LTW - control your border, adhere to social distancing, wear a mask, vaccinate and then employ a bit of common sense and vigilance thereafter - seems to be the sensible approach.
There is a fear that, although the Economy is moving towards where it was Pre-COVID, that there are some difficult economic times still to come for some industries.
Pubs and restaurants will still be hit pretty hard for a while I’d imagine - the feeling is that attitudes and habits have changed in such a way that things will never quite be the same for some in those sectors.
I have a few colleagues that are expecting a delayed spree of business closures as pubs & restaurants try to muddle through, but without enough turnover to make them viable, slowly start to fall over.
This virus has shown our despite all our unreal advances in technology, etc - we are moving further and further away from being good, responsible folks ... I'm generalizing obviously but I worry for the world my children will raise their children up in.
I am very interested to see how our world adjusts.
Professionally - I can see many companies making WFH the norm.
Will the entertainment industry bounce back? Here, they're packing the restaurants, pubs etc ... People are desperate to go out. I can't tell you how much I enjoyed going out for brunch with the lady - it almost felt like I was doing something 'special' ;-)
WFH is the norm for the company I work for - I have to book to go into the office - I’m sure they’re saving a fortune in electricity costs.
I don’t get the feeling that entertainment is booming over here - in certain areas. The feeling is that suburban places are doing well, but CBD is still struggling.
Also - people tightening their belts and not going out as much.
The company I work for has actually seen a dip in sales compared to when we were in lockdown this time last year. We expected it.
I’m not hearing of overly crowded pubs and restaurants - but I’m sure some are.
I guess I’ve gone through that many changes in the last few years with regards to work, socialising, living arrangements, etc - I don’t actually know what people are doing these days.
When my lad is older, I'm going to tell him not to have kids. I won't be having any more kids either. We're well on our way towards a dystopian, mass-surveillance state.
The thing with this virus, and the imminent vaccine passports, it's allowed the established powers to force through the agendas they've wanted to push from the very beginning.
I think we're past the point of no return, and all personal freedoms will forever be lost - if they're not already. Just look at the potential laws being passed here in the UK. It's done.
This was a good video. People will probably scoff at the fact that it's Russell Brand, but he consistently raises good points...
I too think we're fucked and that climate change is going to wreck everything sooner, rather than later.
However, I follow news on climate change quite closely and the rate at which money is being divested from fossil fuels and the development of new green tech has made me a tiny wee bit optimistic. If these developments had happened in the early 90s we maybe would have spared the worst of it.
99% convinced we're doomed.
However, I follow news on climate change quite closely and the rate at which money is being divested from fossil fuels and the development of new green tech has made me a tiny wee bit optimistic. If these developments had happened in the early 90s we maybe would have spared the worst of it.
99% convinced we're doomed.
Climate change and deforestation - the effects of this are going to be brutal over the next two decades. Just in Oregon in the USA, and two states in South India where my family lives - over the last five years, we have had numerous forest fires in Oregon including two which came dangerously close to the urban metro region, three major floods in the two states in India where over 600 people died combined. Before that, I cannot remember a major flood happening in Tamil Nadu and Kerala in India. At least not at this frequency with so many people dying and many more losing homes, farms, etc.
We also had two dangerous outbreaks of Nipah virus (45-75% mortality rate) in Kerala which was arrested quickly due to the great work of the authorities and medical personnel. The reason for the outbreak was increased deforestation causing increasing interactions between humans and bats. I believe there have been similar small outbreaks in Malaysia and Bangladesh also. Because of the high fatality rate, it does die down before spreading too much. But scientists are already worried about mutated Nipah viruses which are more effective in transmission.
Part of me is actually quite excited at getting to see the end of days.
Behave. You’ll say it’s going to be shit and disappointing.
There is also who knows what locked away in the rapidly thawing permafrost, and also with climate change disease vectors like mosquitoes are able to survive in higher latitudes.
Fun times ahead!
Have you been watching too much Fortitude?
I haven't seen that. I was reading a bit about it recently for work.
I had a quick google (well, I use Ecosia for general searches these days as they plant a tree with the profits they make) and I don't think I could handle that show just now...
Not seen series 3 yet, its ok, it’s pretty well acted but series 2 has a scene where the bloke cuts of his own knob so not been back since. Not yet...