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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

That's was the narrative being pumped from Beijing. They could hardly turn around and say 'but we don't believe them' they are meant to be impartial. They didn't have the evidence at that point.

The only ones to blame for that statement are China.

The WHO put out the statement without checking it was correct. So why would you assume anything they say is correct ?
 
True, and it's not even just that. They are the World HEALTH Organisation. Why would I take financial advice from them?

It reeks of the EU thinking we need someone that can appear impartial to put pressure on the UK for our fuck up.
 
The WHO put out the statement without checking it was correct. So why would you assume anything they say is correct ?
In hindsight they should have probably said they needed more info before making a statement. However they were under pressure to give a statement.

And I so believe they used words to the effect of 'at this time there is no evidence of human to human transmission'.

Because there wasn't. China surpressed that info.
 
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Put WHO in charge of distribution.. Totally agree that all vulnerable should be vaccinated world wide, before presenting vaccine to those less vulnerable within the population..

Greed and nationalism means countries only act in their best interest. Sadly we will never get rid of this pandemic globally handling it like this.

It’s wrong to charge African nations double for the same dose..

I fear surplus stock if we ever get any will be exactly what the UK and the EU will look to do with it..
 
Put WHO in charge of distribution.. Totally agree that all vulnerable should be vaccinated world wide, before presenting vaccine to those less vulnerable within the population..

Greed and nationalism means countries only act in their best interest. Sadly we will never get rid of this pandemic globally handling it like this.

It’s wrong to charge African nations double for the same dose..

I fear surplus stock if we ever get any will be exactly what the UK and the EU will look to do with it..

Are countries being charged double?
 
Are countries being charged double?
Apparently so..

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ouble-eu-price-for-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine

If this his happening to South Africa.. It will likely be the same for other African countries..

"The explanation we were given for why other high-income countries have a lower price is that they have invested in the [research and development], hence the discount on the price"

An example of Greed and nationalism with countries only act in their own best interest

If you don't look too suppress the virus on a Global scale, the pandemic will win through..
 
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Put WHO in charge of distribution.. Totally agree that all vulnerable should be vaccinated world wide, before presenting vaccine to those less vulnerable within the population..

Greed and nationalism means countries only act in their best interest. Sadly we will never get rid of this pandemic globally handling it like this.

It’s wrong to charge African nations double for the same dose..

I fear surplus stock if we ever get any will be exactly what the UK and the EU will look to do with it..

That isn’t going to help me get to the fucking pub.
 
Put WHO in charge of distribution.. Totally agree that all vulnerable should be vaccinated world wide, before presenting vaccine to those less vulnerable within the population..

Greed and nationalism means countries only act in their best interest. Sadly we will never get rid of this pandemic globally handling it like this.

It’s wrong to charge African nations double for the same dose..

I fear surplus stock if we ever get any will be exactly what the UK and the EU will look to do with it..
WHO in charge of distribution.. you're sounding more and more like a commie every day.
 
Don't we have one of the worst infection rates alongside highest mortality rates In the UK? If other countries have cooked figures , then shit is on them , completely justifiable to priotise home first in a situation such as this
 
WHO in charge of distribution.. you're sounding more and more like a commie every day.
I don't trust governments etc etc to manage it.. They will only look after their own interests.. WHO was just an example..

This is a global pandemic, it needs to dealt with on a global scale.. Vaccines need to be available globally at a cost that suits all.. Otherwise we won't see an end to this pandemic..
 
Don't we have one of the worst infection rates alongside highest mortality rates In the UK? If other countries have cooked figures , then shit is on them , completely justifiable to priotise home first in a situation such as this
I get your point to a degree..

But by prioritizing your own nation you run the risk of prolonging the pandemic and increased deaths... Globally..

Your essentially saying vulnerable persons in the UK is worth more than as vulnerable person, for arguments sake in Africa..

No soul is worth more than another's anywhere. Period..

It's clear this virus effects the vulberable and the elderly. It's incredibly selfish of any nation to look after their own with out looking to address the bigger picture globally..
 
Protecting your own is not going to bring this end to a global crisis. It may look great for a few months but soon as restrictions are eased then won’t be long before a another threat of dangerous mutation leads to another lockdown with a another vaccine v2.x update.

Soon as the critical group has been vaccinated then should be proactive in helping the vulnerable countries. The effect of Brexit so far has been subdued due to covid handling but international relations are vital, a bit of good proactive PR while EU rollback out of their disastrous handling won’t do any harm for UK.
 
Protecting your own is not going to bring this end to a global crisis. It may look great for a few months but soon as restrictions are eased then won’t be long before a another threat of dangerous mutation leads to another lockdown with a another vaccine v2.x update.

Soon as the critical group has been vaccinated then should be proactive in helping the vulnerable countries. The effect of Brexit so far has been subdued due to covid handling but international relations are vital, a bit of good proactive PR while EU rollback out of their disastrous handling won’t do any harm for UK.
Exactly my point..

You just worded it better

Of course you would expect governments to look after their own as others stated..

But as you stated, its just a temporary sticky plaster for the nation to what is a global problem..

Governments have to work together to defeat this virus.

The problem though it's required in a vast scale that's never been seen before..
 
Are countries being charged double?

South Africa have claimed this. I don’t see any other countries saying this and there hasn’t been a clear explanation for it.

It seems that the EU managed to get it cheaper, maybe because of volumes and maybe because they are funding supply lines. If it is the latter, perhaps South Africa are having to pay more for distribution. Who knows.

I doubt that South Africa are considered a poor country compared to many others, so it would be worth seeing what other African countries are paying before getting upset about it.

AstraZeneca have said that they would not profit from this (as it was publicly funded), and that poorer countries would get it at cost price. Pfizer, by the way, took no public money and can and have charged whatever they wished, since it was a private enterprise. There are huge variations in the price that countries are paying for the Pfizer vaccine.

The thing to look out for though is that after the pandemic phase is over, AstraZeneca are free to profit from the vaccine. In theory, that is fine, as long as everyone agrees that the pandemic phase is over!
 
Protecting your own is not going to bring this end to a global crisis. It may look great for a few months but soon as restrictions are eased then won’t be long before a another threat of dangerous mutation leads to another lockdown with a another vaccine v2.x update.

Soon as the critical group has been vaccinated then should be proactive in helping the vulnerable countries. The effect of Brexit so far has been subdued due to covid handling but international relations are vital, a bit of good proactive PR while EU rollback out of their disastrous handling won’t do any harm for UK.

No it won't end the global crisis but you can't expect your population to suffer because other countries have shit governments.

New Zealand prioritised their citizens, and it's hard to fault a single thing they've done.
 
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