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Well, schools here opened this week and already 6 of them have closed because of outbreaks. I give it a few weeks and they'll shut things down again here. Cases have been going up quite a lot too, we're looking at 300 odd new cases a day.

Such fun.
 
StevieM said:
What sort of lockdown are you looking at?

We’re hoping to get out of Stage 4 Lockdown in a couple of weeks.

I get outside once a week to shop for groceries. Deciding between broccoli and broccolini is the highlight of my week.
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Under this government it could be anything..

I suspect you will be lockdown in your area but will be allowed to travel outside your area for work commitments..

No more than 6 people at the moment inside or outside from different households, but you can go the pub, restaurants, etc but not chat to other people out side your group, you could be grassed upon from your neighbours (key Tory Drive).. But you are allowed larger groups if you carry a licenced rifle for hunting purposes, particularity for grouse shooting

All very elitist..

The bollocks around young people spreading the virus is just the government shifting the blame in terms of their incompetence in handling this pandemic .. Lets blame the youngsters..

What they failed to mention is most young people don't work from home and work in most service industries, i.e Pub, Restaurants, Retail etc etc.. So they will be exposed to the virus far more than anyone else, so of course younger people would be most at risk in catching and spreading the virus working in these industries.. This is on the back of the government get yourself back to work offices messages over last few weeks and the Eat Out to Help Out scheme.. (which was a good idea to help businesses.. but when you have Four million, almost a third of children in the UK living in poverty, many families struggling to feed their children... I am on the fence with it )

Oh but MPs have agreed to work from home till the end of November

Elitism again..

To add to that.. you want a test .. no fucking chance atm.. So A&E department are now being overloaded with peeps seeking tests.. Arrowe park on the Wirral over here is an example of this..

Care homes, Schools and NHS staff currently access to testing is severely limited... again..

So we are back to self isolating if you have suspected symptoms.. Translated... Government is trying out its herd immunity program for the 2nd wave..

I get the fine balance of managing the pandemic and getting the economy back on track.. but this government is incredibly inept at it.... A fucking joke..
 
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Novemember? Is that before or after Octoberober?

Fingers crossed we will all be okay in time for Christeristmas though, eh?
 
Richey said:
Novemember? Is that before or after Octoberober?

Fingers crossed we will all be okay in time for Christeristmas though, eh?
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*sticky keys*

I am going to throw a party in my mate's woods in llangollen, he has a few air rifles.. so sorted.... 😀
 
6TimesaRed said:
Under this government it could be anything..

I suspect you will be lockdown in your area but will be allowed to travel outside your area for work commitments..

No more than 6 people at the moment, but you can go the pub but not chat to other people out side your group, you could be grassed upon from your neighbours.. But you are allowed larger groups if you carry a licenced rifle for hunting purposes, particularity grouse shooting

All very elitist..

The bollocks around young people spreading the virus is just the government shifting the blame in terms of their incompetence in handling this pandemic .. Lets blame the youngsters..

What they failed to mention is most young people don't work from home and work in most service industries, i.e Pub, Restaurants, Retail etc etc.. So they will be exposed to the virus far more than anyone else, so of course younger people would be most at risk in catching and spreading the virus working in these industries..

To add to that.. you want a test .. no fucking chance atm.. So A&E department are now being overloaded with peeps seeking tests..

Care homes and NHS staff currently access to testing is severely limited... again..

So we are back to self isolating if you have suspected symptoms.. Translated... Government is trying out its herd immunity program for the 2nd wave..
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I dunno mate - the figures in Melbourne, I think, are tending towards infections being highest (in pure numbers) in the 20-30 age range with minimal deaths, but infections being lower in the 70+ age twanged with deaths being significantly higher.

All the pubs are closed, you can’t go and play golf (not that I would), you can’t do anything outside (I haven’t been able to go to the gym since March) - it’s community infection that’s driving this and younger people would seem to be how it’s moving and it’s not about industry because the pubs, etc where barely open between LD1 & LD2.

I think it’s more difficult for youngsters to stick to lockdown rules - that’s not to say they’re to blame, but it must be a lot harder on them to isolate and have diminished social interaction.

I’m fine with not having to hang out with pricks I don’t like and I have no family in this hemisphere that needs visiting - so I’m capable of dealing with a Stage 4 lockdown.
 
StevieM said:
I dunno mate - the figures in Melbourne, I think, are tending towards infections being highest (in pure numbers) in the 20-30 age range with minimal deaths, but infections being lower in the 70+ age twanged with deaths being significantly higher.

All the pubs are closed, you can’t go and play golf (not that I would), you can’t do anything outside (I haven’t been able to go to the gym since March) - it’s community infection that’s driving this and younger people would seem to be how it’s moving and it’s not about industry because the pubs, etc where barely open between LD1 & LD2.

I think it’s more difficult for youngsters to stick to lockdown rules - that’s not to say they’re to blame, but it must be a lot harder on them to isolate and have diminished social interaction.

I’m fine with not having to hang out with pricks I don’t like and I have no family in this hemisphere that needs visiting - so I’m capable of dealing with a Stage 4 lockdown.
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When I say young people they are being accused of spreading the virus, and the media as ever jumping on the bandwagon to spread that propaganda as they always do in this country.. Yeh there have been a few illegal raves here n there.. But as I say that is really that not the full picture, and fails to take other elements into account, which I mentioned in my previous post..

Your lockdowns have been a lot more strict in Aussieland I believe.. Aren't there a few cases of people being jailed for travelling away from New South Wales. ? For quite a significant amount of time too..

Here the initial Lockdown never really felt like a proper lockdown, yeh pubs, restaurants, etc etc closed, but you could go outside.. I even managed to play 'Socially Distanced' golf in the early few weeks of the lockdown. (I live round the corner from the Brackenwood Golf Course)... However the second news came about Cummings and his castle trip, and the fall out from it, everyone started doing what the fuck they wanted anyway..
 
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Yeah, I hadn't heard of schools closing during local lockdowns, just find it odd that all the primary schools in Liverpool & Sefton have sent home the remote learning forms again like before they closed last time.

Anyone know if they've done so elsewhere?
 
FoxForceFive said:
Yeah, I hadn't heard of schools closing during local lockdowns, just find it odd that all the primary schools in Liverpool & Sefton have sent home the remote learning forms again like before they closed last time.

Anyone know if they've done so elsewhere?
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We got some remote learning packs delivered to our neighbour who thinks they're for us as her kids are all grown up. Asked the school today about these learning packs and they denied they'd sent them out. This is Wigan by the way
 
I may be being cynical, but this happened what, three/four weeks before the lockdown last time?

I'm wondering if they're looking at worse case scenario based on the current rising R rate & are putting plans in place in case they need to close schools.

It would make sense to do so & not make any declarations about even planning to avoid negative impacts on the economy.
 
StevieM said:
We’re showing new cases of less than 50 new cases a day in a metro population of 4.9 million (with some 2.5 million tests carried out) - and a total of under 20,000 cases in total since the start of it all.

I think our peak was just over 700 new cases a day.

Which is 700 per 4.9 million.

So if my math is right your 88 per 100,000 would equate to 4,300 in Melbourne.

Our peak of 700 would equate to 14 a day.

Now.... I said this earlier... we’re going into summer - all other states in Oz have maintains low level daily infection rates - less than 10 new cases a day without the same measures as Melbourne.

We can - from here on - operate more effectively “outside” across the most affected industries (hospitality, entertainment, etc).

I’m really worried about the UK - I think, and I guess this is based on my experience here where lockdown 2 was much harsher than lockdown 1 (and it hit just st the back end of winter) - if you’re seeing cases spike going in to winter - you’ve got problems.

We’re desperately hoping we get out of this to have some sort of normal Christmas.

UK - not all of it - have to say Norn Iron seems to be getting to grips with it - but I’m looking from afar and don’t really know.
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Your estimates are already outdated, thanks to exponential growth. We have 4000 odd infections today, and the death rate has ticked up a little. The end is probably nigh.
 
Just do what the fuck you want. That’s the message we’ve been given over the last 6 months.
 
Fat Joe seems to think that pubs & restaurants may close & go to take out only again.

"We know there will be government meetings to decide what happens next on Friday, but we fully expect to be affected by lockdown measures having gone over the 100 cases per 100,000 government threshold.

"We think this could well be part of a wider North West lockdown, because you can see cases are rising across the whole region.

"We think this could involve a ban on care home visits, with vulnerable people perhaps being told to shield again.

"We may see pubs and restaurants reduced to takeaway services and restrictions on households mixing, we will have to wait and see exactly what measures are brought in and will keep people informed.
 
Updated PHE watchlist:

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https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/national-covid-19-surveillance-reports
 
Why doesn't England just follow the Swedish model?
This whole opening and closing public places and setting curfews doesn't seem to be working.
 
Modo said:
Why doesn't England just follow the Swedish model?
This whole opening and closing public places and setting curfews doesn't seem to be working.
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Seems to be working in Melbourne - our numbers are back under control and heading fast towards under 10 new cases a day.

Hopefully next weekend we’ll start to come out of lockdown 2.0.
 
Modo said:
Why doesn't England just follow the Swedish model?
This whole opening and closing public places and setting curfews doesn't seem to be working.
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Because the British Government are all for Herd immunity.. managed edition..

Lockdowns here have never been true lockdowns, I suspect the next one will be tougher in terms of imposing fines..

But you will still be able to go the pub with your mates, just can't have them round in your house or back garden
 
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StevieM said:
Seems to be working in Melbourne - our numbers are back under control and heading fast towards under 10 new cases a day.

Hopefully next weekend we’ll start to come out of lockdown 2.0.
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But don't you all fear the potential of a second wave. It's like everyone is sitting around waiting for a vaccine that never arrives.
 
Modo said:
So that's the narrative?
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I actually don't know what the narrative is, I heard this on newsnight a few days ago from an Oxford prof who was saying she didn't understand why it was so toxic.
It was certainly the main aim initially but I think the public freaked out alongside the incompetency of the gov.

There is a fear around the potential for the numbers of people dying being ridiculously higher than Sweden, cramped conditions in larger cities, much larger population etc
 
Atlas said:
I actually don't know what the narrative is, I heard this on newsnight a few days ago from an Oxford prof who was saying she didn't understand why it was so toxic.
It was certainly the main aim initially but I think the public freaked out alongside the incompetency of the gov.

There is a fear around the potential for the numbers of people dying being ridiculously higher than Sweden, cramped conditions in larger cities, much larger population etc
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Well I guess that's true for England. Apart from like 5 cities, Sweden is pretty rural so people are naturally separated.
 
This whole thing is fucking nuts. Hospitalisations are up since the kids went back to school. They opened the pubs, cases went down. People rammed the beaches and parks, cases went down. They said you could go hang out with your mates, cases went down. Now the schools are open cases are going up and there'll telling everyone they can't see their mates and pubs need to shut early.

What I wanna know is, why the fuck can't anyone else see it? I'm not saying shut schools, I'm just saying all this other shit won't change anything.
 
Woland said:
This whole thing is fucking nuts. Hospitalisations are up since the kids went back to school. They opened the pubs, cases went down. People rammed the beaches and parks, cases went down. They said you could go hang out with your mates, cases went down. Now the schools are open cases are going up and there'll telling everyone they can't see their mates and pubs need to shut early.

What I wanna know is, why the fuck can't anyone else see it? I'm not saying shut schools, I'm just saying all this other shit won't change anything.
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So your blaming the children then.. [emoji23]


Boris though and his stooges assured us it was safe for children to go back to school..

There is your reason why is not being highlighted I guess..

Corrupt Fuckers..
 
I'm sure they said it was safe because kids are not likely to get ill, or much less likely to get ill.

I won't disagree with the corruption thing, but I think Whitty and Valance are pretty much just reporting as medical expects what should happen..which is their job.

Translating that advice to policy isn't their role, I don't think.
 
It's utter bollocks. Two separate studies have shown that children, esp young children, will carry the virus asymptomatically for longer than adults & are much more like to spread it due to how the virus behaves (it stays in large numbers around the nasal areas for some reason, hence being able to test kids in the nose not back of throat) so when they shout, cough, sing etc, it spreads.

So they're literally mini virus super spreaders.

I get they want schools open so people can go back to work, but if this is what happens then fucking tough. Let everything else open, teach remotely & financially support those people who can't return to work due to kids.

This is coming from someone who is fucking made up his kids are home schooling, so it's hardly like I'm biased.

It's just common fucking sense.
 
Atlas said:
I'm sure they said it was safe because kids are not likely to get ill, or much less likely to get ill.

I won't disagree with the corruption thing, but I think Whitty and Valance are pretty much just reporting as medical expects what should happen..which is their job.

Translating that advice to policy isn't their role, I don't think.
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Wolands comments and findings just highlight what we all knew all along.. Kids pick up and carry all sorts of sniffles, bugs and illnesses, and are super spreaders. For the government to evade this fact shows the incompetent and corruption of them even further.

Asymptomatic rate I read, they believe is currently at 45% of those carrying the virus, and higher in children..

It shows how much herd immunity is at the forefront of their strategy..
 
Kids can do indoor PE in school but not play 5-a-side? I can go the pub with my mates but not for a roast in my mum’s? I don’t have to wear a mask on my meal break but do if I’m serving drinks?

Fucking useless guidance.
 
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