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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

Hang on a second, I actually did get stung on the back by something last night and, no joke, there's a white circle where I was stung. @dantes what did you do??
 
I don't think it was a tick, it felt like a wasp sting. I think the fucker got me through my t shirt too.
 
Let's not be hasty. Using antibiotics unnecessarily just puts us all in danger of super-resistant bacteria. It might clear up on its own in a day or two. Are you sure it's white, and not a yellowy puss colour? Perhaps whatever stung you implanted egg lavae, like those botfly things do.


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Melbourne is going back into full lockdown fir 6 weeks to stop the spread.

Most of this seems to be traced back to overseas people returning - private security hired by the State Government at the hotels housing people returning for the 2 week quarantine, broke protocol and have let the virus back out in the community.

Fun times.
 
Melbourne is going back into full lockdown fir 6 weeks to stop the spread.

Most of this seems to be traced back to overseas people returning - private security hired by the State Government at the hotels housing people returning for the 2 week quarantine, broke protocol and have let the virus back out in the community.

Fun times.
I read some of the security guards also had side gigs driving for uber.
 
Melbourne is going back into full lockdown fir 6 weeks to stop the spread.

Most of this seems to be traced back to overseas people returning - private security hired by the State Government at the hotels housing people returning for the 2 week quarantine, broke protocol and have let the virus back out in the community.

Fun times.

You should have known better than to test them. Schoolboy error.
 
I read some of the security guards also had side gigs driving for uber.
I read they also fucked the single ladies.. because they were bored. (Both the security guards and the quarantined ladies).

And that's how it spread.

Damn Aussies.
 
That's because neither HIV or SARS/MERS have brought the world economy to a standstill. They are tolerable to corporations as they do not affect their ability to generate capital. In fact, one might say it's in their interests not to find cures for such diseases when they can generate huge, steady income streams from therapeutic treatments. COVID-19 is a completely different kettle of fish, hence the massive global effort to defeat it, and hence why we'll likely have half a dozen vaccines by this time next year.
Personally I think that's very optimistic but with the amount of money being thrown at it there's of course a possibility.

SARS had a severe effect on the Chinese economy (not as much as CV-19 of course but cities were locked down - we had our car wheels spray disinfected every time we went in/out the main gate of the compound!), and considering that they don't need to consider the cost, and how much effort they put into finding a vaccine, I'm surprised that there is still no SARS vaccine.

This seems to suggest that it's simply just not that easy to crack. With SARS it took them 6 years to even find patient zero, and despite the resources & ability of the combined Chinese scientific community (50% of the global human genome mapping collaboration was completed in Shanghai which is an indication of their resources) they still haven't come up with anything. This may indicate the inherent difficulty of dealing with coronaviruses and how fast they mutate.

I hope you are right though.
 
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Personally I think that's very optimistic but with the amount of money being thrown at it there's of course a possibility.

SARS had a severe effect on the Chinese economy (not as much as CV-19 of course but cities were locked down - we had our car wheels spray disinfected every time we went in/out the main gate of the compound!), and considering that they don't need to consider the cost, and how much effort they put into finding a vaccine, I'm surprised that there is still no SARS vaccine.

This seems to suggest that it's simply just not that easy to crack. With SARS it took them 6 years to even find patient zero, and despite the resources & ability of the combined Chinese scientific community (50% of the global human genome mapping collaboration was completed in Shanghai which is an indication of their resources) they still haven't come up with anything. This may indicate the inherent difficulty of dealing with coronaviruses and how fast they mutate.

I hope you are right though.

To me it indicates a fundamental flaw in the brains of modern researchers. They rely far too much on data and are willing to accept far too much error. Say the answer for the vaccine is 135.43. I don't stop until I get 135.43. Which means when I get to 135.63, I know I've made a mistake, I find it, fix it, and voila 135.43. The people working on the vaccine are willing to settle for anything between 130 to 140 for whatever reason they justify to themselves with. Let's say they're at 146. Literally any random fucking tweak to the formulation will move the answer up or down by any random amount. 150, woops wrong way. Try again. 139. Bingo. Bob's our uncle, baby we did it! Except they did shit. Their failure to demand accuracy meant they just randomly got to the result they needed in order to get paid. If we're in the early phases of drug development, their 139 piece of shit will fail in the clinical trials. If we're in the later stages, then god help you. Which is why it's best if Athens takes the vaccine first.
 
To me it indicates a fundamental flaw in the brains of modern researchers. They rely far too much on data and are willing to accept far too much error. Say the answer for the vaccine is 135.43. I don't stop until I get 135.43. Which means when I get to 135.63, I know I've made a mistake, I find it, fix it, and voila 135.43. The people working on the vaccine are willing to settle for anything between 130 to 140 for whatever reason they justify to themselves with. Let's say they're at 146. Literally any random fucking tweak to the formulation will move the answer up or down by any random amount. 150, woops wrong way. Try again. 139. Bingo. Bob's our uncle, baby we did it! Except they did shit. Their failure to demand accuracy meant they just randomly got to the result they needed in order to get paid. If we're in the early phases of drug development, their 139 piece of shit will fail in the clinical trials. If we're in the later stages, then god help you. Which is why it's best if Athens takes the vaccine first.
You believe that in China that for Govt. scientists it's all about the money !?! Failure means off to the Inner Mongolian mines with you, money never comes into it when your life is at stake 🙄
 
It's got nothing to do with what China can or cannot do. They didn't complete human trials for Sara and mers vaccines because there simply wasn't enough cases by the time the vaccines reached that stage i.e the conventional method of controlling the transmission was successful.
 
People underestimate what is required of developing a vaccine.. They take years to develop and test to iron out issues and potential side effects..

Off from the record the company I currently work for advise any quickly developed vaccine without rigorous testing is potentially likely to come with side effects..

I'm certainly going to give any quickly developed vaccine a miss..
 
People underestimate what is required of developing a vaccine.. They take years to develop and test to iron out issues and potential side effects..

Off from the record the company I currently work for advise any quickly developed vaccine without rigorous testing is potentially likely to come with side effects..

I'm certainly going to give any quickly developed vaccine a miss..
Anti-vaxxer.

Next you'll be saying the earth is flat.
 
Anti-vaxxer.

Next you'll be saying the earth is flat.
Not an Anti Vaxxer at all.. I just ain't having the first one that become available, as there is bound to be underlying issues..

Though I'm guessing as soon as one becomes available, they will make it compulsory in some way.. albeit indirectly..

Compulsory to the fact if you dont have some document confirming you had the vaccine you will have restrictions imposed on you In terms of your comings and goings of your every day life..
 
I'm not sure the USA has any one capable. They've all been brainwashed one way or another. So it's back to film stars and singers because ... well hey they'll do well on social media ! I can see the Kardashians running the USA soon. God help us.

If Kanye becomes president, then the Apocolypse and armageddon are coming...


 
Brits unhappy about having to wear a 'muzzle' apparently.

Anyway, anyone know if there is access to some local info re CV in UK?

I want to know what the number of infections and deaths plus the R value (and an explanation of what it actually means) for a particular town/city/area etc
 
Brits unhappy about having to wear a 'muzzle' apparently.

Anyway, anyone know if there is access to some local info re CV in UK?

I want to know what the number of infections and deaths plus the R value (and an explanation of what it actually means) for a particular town/city/area etc

Have you looked on here? https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk

All Covid data is pretty confusing anyway, as there are so many different datasets from different places and of varying quality. You will never get the 100% accurate number of infections for example, that is impossible.

I am not sure that the R number is broken down any further than region, and I wouldn’t pay a lot of attention to it either, as they tend to announce the average R rather than split it by community R and closed R, which is what they should have been doing.
 
Have you looked on here? https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk

All Covid data is pretty confusing anyway, as there are so many different datasets from different places and of varying quality. You will never get the 100% accurate number of infections for example, that is impossible.

I am not sure that the R number is broken down any further than region, and I wouldn’t pay a lot of attention to it either, as they tend to announce the average R rather than split it by community R and closed R, which is what they should have been doing.

Thanks for that, nope not seen that but yeah I was looking for data that was a bit more specific, figures it probably wasn't available but in case.
Just trying to figure the challenges locally and how large the risk is currently.

Conflicting news really re the masks, not use it do use them, personal preference etc and then announcing they are to be mandatory but not until next week some time.
 
Do the same people complain about wearing a seat belt in a car?

Seat belts were designed, tested, and perfected by engineers, doing experiments with actual cars and dummies. Masks have been knitted together in a sweatshop or by someones granny, and the testing has been done by epidemiologists who know nothing about fluid mechanics or thermodynamics. As a result you have virtue signalling scientists begging people to wear masks to signal their virtue, and you have mentally ill scientists saying it's a lizard conspiracy to control the population. Both sides of the argument are supported by equally shit science, which is exactly what this world deserves for their desecration of the scientific method. Let them die.
 
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