They make our dickhead politicians look like saints
Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?
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They make our dickhead politicians look like saints
270m spent on it, doesn't work, we don't like it anyway, or maybe use the free one we were offered that work perfectly.
FFS.
FFS.
Oh my God. Did Johnson just pull out a pack of Tim Tams in the middle of a speech? Don't get me wrong Tim Tams are great but fucking hell.
Money talks, innit. Computerising the NHS has been a disaster area for decades under both major parties. Too many big corporate noses in the trough.
They are nice but nearly as nice as mint slices
BEIJING (Reuters) - China has found the trading sections for meat and seafood in Beijing’s wholesale food market to be severely contaminated with the new coronavirus and suspects the area’s low temperature and high humidity may have been contributing factors, officials said on Thursday.
Their preliminary report comes as the country’s capital tackles a resurgence of COVID-19 cases over the past week linked to the massive Xinfadi food center, which houses warehouses and trading halls in an area the size of nearly 160 soccer pitches.
The latest outbreak infected more than 100 people and raised fears of wider contagion in China.
Their preliminary report comes as the country’s capital tackles a resurgence of COVID-19 cases over the past week linked to the massive Xinfadi food center, which houses warehouses and trading halls in an area the size of nearly 160 soccer pitches.
The latest outbreak infected more than 100 people and raised fears of wider contagion in China.
The "high humidity" bit is a tad surprising. I thought we'd been told the virus likes the cold and the dry but not hot or wet conditions.
Wouldn't be the first instance of contradictory scientific advice over this though.
Wouldn't be the first instance of contradictory scientific advice over this though.
Ok, so meat chillers etc are possibly a major source of infections.
That could have pretty big ramifications if proven to be true.
That could have pretty big ramifications if proven to be true.
The wet conditions wouldn't affect it too badly, if you extrapolate the theory behind hand washing.
With hand washing you have to use soap, & vigorously rub your hands to break the envelope of the virus, the water alone doesn't do so. Therefore expecting water in the form of condensation or damp to break the envelope down doesn't seem to make sense.
It wouldn't do that but, as far as I understand previous advice, what it does do is - if you'll forgive the detail - keep the mucus in your various airways moist and therefore more likely to prevent the bug from getting down into the lungs, which is where the real damage starts.
That makes sense. Which means there'd be less chance of the virus infecting whilst you're in that environment, but if the virus itself survives on surfaces & in such areas, with the very nature of them being heavily involved in food distribution & packaging, they would be ideal for the virus to spread & infect people outside of that area.
Again, that relies on the evidence regarding how long the virus can surface on surfaces, which is contradictory depending on who you listen to.
Very much so. It always has been in terms of which surfaces pose the greatest risk, and I listened to a virologist on the radio a couple of days ago saying the whole question was of negligible importance anyway compared with transmission via droplets. If the inevitable post-outbreak stocktaking is as thorough as it ought to be, this will be one of the things they'll need to look at in detail, quite apart from the incompetence of politicians and Govt.machinery.
Doesn't the fact that it's in pretty much every country, all of which have vastly different weather, tell is that it's not, at least majorly, affected by climate?
The size of the outbreaks, and the seasons in which those outbreaks happened, tell a different story though. 0-10 C being the best temperatures for the virus to thrive.
Most of the outbreaks in warmer countries seem to be in those where person-to-person contact is high (either due to cultural mores or living conditions e.g. Brazil/Ecuador/Peru and Singapore amongst the migrant workforce living in congested sleeping quarters).
Yes, exactly, it's the contact rates that are more important than climate.
And congregate in huge crowds at parties/raves and on the beach/parks/tourist spots.
Yeah we've had that here too.
I kinda laughed when I saw research showing Covid disproportionality affects poor people. Because in Dublin the Northside was affected more greatly , but the same places most affected were the same places that were having big street parties during the middle of our lockdown. God knows how many videos I saw of them.
To be fair they're happening Southside too. A friend of mine saw a massive one (night time) in Leopardstown. They're definitely happening Northside but I haven't seen any where I live or in the surrounding areas. There's definitely an element to what you said but there's also the likelihood that poorer people live more people to a smaller space.
I bet that was really Ballyogan, rather than Leopardstown.
I heard anecdotally that a pub in Killester was packed with Italian rugby fans the weekend of the postponed game.
That area seems to have rates of infection 3/4 times the surrounding areas now.
Inner city Northside has had very few cases, possibly because they were not so likely to be on a skying trip to North Italy or Austria
That wouldn't surprise me. Our CL game that went ahead seems to have been blamed on how poorly Liverpool fared too.