It does but the current travel ban is on travel is into EU member states. Which is why there is a barricade between an EU member state and Switzerland.
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It does but the current travel ban is on travel is into EU member states. Which is why there is a barricade between an EU member state and Switzerland.
It is going to be interesting how the wet market legislation is going to happen in Asian countries post this outbreak. In India too, a majority of the folks buy meat from wet markets. We eat chicken and fish and my family purchases them from wet markets. When my parents, as well as in-laws, visited me in US, they did not like the chicken and fish sold here. And I bought organic free range chicken from higher-end grocery stores here. Refrigerated meat was too processed and lacking in flavor for them.
They investigated where they can buy fresh chicken around my place. Stumbled onto articles about the meatpacking and processing industry in the US, and became vegetarians during their stay here. Which is not a big deal for my family as our diet is mostly vegetarian + egg/milk for like 355-360 days in a year and we cook chicken or fish only for special occasions, guests etc.
But for a lot of Asians, asking them to sacrifice chicken, fish, seafood, mutton, beef from wet markets is going to be a big deal.
Sadly, & inexplicably, the amounts are not transferable, it's mentioned twice in the documentation that you can't save money on one item to spend on another.
You give the government too much credit. Get your wife to buy the monitor, have her stick it on her eBay account. Then you buy it "used" for £40, and buy her "chair and dressing table" for £200.
Civil service waste money till it comes out of their ears no end tbf.. Particulary in IT...
A lot of IT services are outsourced, but asset management and stock management remains in house, or costed back from the sub contracted service to the relevant civil service departments
A certain department currently use HP DC 7900 PC's to run on legacy kit.. Now I would look to virtualise it, bring in thin clients.... but that's another story..
Anyway they often go pop, the GPU specifically so constantly need replacing..
Hundreds upon hundreds of them, they have. In use..
I know I can buy them for what 20 - 25 each on eBay, even less if you buy in bulk.. Yet they use third party company to source them with no warranty attached, and they charge £150 to £200 a unit.. The fuckers don't even give them any recondition treatment..
Guess where they get them from, yes your right.. eBay....
Now when the sub contractor where used to source them, they would also add their own levy in top, as most business usually do.. So each unit could end up costing so much more.
Laughable really..
A lot of IT services are outsourced, but asset management and stock management remains in house, or costed back from the sub contracted service to the relevant civil service departments
A certain department currently use HP DC 7900 PC's to run on legacy kit.. Now I would look to virtualise it, bring in thin clients.... but that's another story..
Anyway they often go pop, the GPU specifically so constantly need replacing..
Hundreds upon hundreds of them, they have. In use..
I know I can buy them for what 20 - 25 each on eBay, even less if you buy in bulk.. Yet they use third party company to source them with no warranty attached, and they charge £150 to £200 a unit.. The fuckers don't even give them any recondition treatment..
Guess where they get them from, yes your right.. eBay....
Now when the sub contractor where used to source them, they would also add their own levy in top, as most business usually do.. So each unit could end up costing so much more.
Laughable really..
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No. The same rules apply to EU members and Switzerland.
It's 10k for all of their office staff not just one person. Still a lot like but it's not as bad as it sounds.
EDIT : damn Richey jumping the gun again.
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This is fascinating. At the risk of reigniting the Brendan-Froggy war, it does make sense to me why people used to going to the market to buy something VERY fresh and flavorful would be horrified by how meat is produced in the West.
Haha what I don't get is how so many people confuse the term 'wet market' (especially live animal markets) with something else in their heads. There are likely more than a billion people worldwide that rely on 'wet markets' for their daily food simply because either they have no refrigeration at home or there is none in the shops / markets. No 'wet markets' and millions would starve.
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Yes, in fact most rural people would just buy the animal from the market and then slaughter it at home.
The consumer has the choice of dispatching it humanely, and obviously can see that the animal is healthy and in good condition, in addition to being fresh.
The problem is that in urban areas there is so little space that sanitation standards are sacrificed. Ideally, there should an area for livestock, an area for slaughter and an area for selling slaughtered produce, like an abattoir and a butcher in close proximity.
More totally logical rules from SA:
We're allowed to buy t-shirts now, so long as they are promoted ‘to be worn under jacket coats and/or knitwear’.
We can buy crop bottom pants, as long as they are worn with boots and leggings.
Government painted themselves into a corner when they said the sale of "winter clothing" would be allowed. Now they have to detail what that means, which has lead to these weird and wonderful rules.
We're allowed to buy t-shirts now, so long as they are promoted ‘to be worn under jacket coats and/or knitwear’.
We can buy crop bottom pants, as long as they are worn with boots and leggings.
Government painted themselves into a corner when they said the sale of "winter clothing" would be allowed. Now they have to detail what that means, which has lead to these weird and wonderful rules.
The term 'wet market' was invented by Singaporean newspapers as a term for existing markets, to distinguish them from the new air-conditioned supermarkets (https://public.oed.com/updates/march-2016-update-new-singapore-english-words/). The term wet just refers to the floor being wet from ice, and constant cleaning. The 'Wet market' does not actually have a specific technical meaning.
Obviously, here animals are no longer slaughtered at the markets, for sanitation reasons. This has pushed the price of food up considerably and may not be feasible everywhere.
Actually the dictionary definition below does give a specific meaning but as you say does not always mean live animals for slaughter.
The phrase has actually been in use for a long time before OED acquired it from Sing. in 2016, likely just late picking up on it because they didn't always include colloquial words. It's been in use for decades, I remember it being in use when I lived in Nigeria in the late 1980's or at least something very similar! Definitely HK in the mid 90's amongst expats and ditto in China when I moved there from HK over 20 years ago.
A wet market is a marketplace selling fresh meat, fish, produce, and other perishable goods as distinguished from "dry markets" that sell durable goods such as fabric and electronics. Not all wet markets sell live animals, but the term wet market is sometimes used to signify a live animal market in which vendors slaughter animals upon customer purchase.
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And here was me thinking with Holle's avatar that this was a clever play on the scene from "The Great Escape" ( or have I been whooshed? )
Fuck. What a wasted opportunity!
I cant figure out if its me or you that's the stupid one here
Switzerland isn't in the EU and travel into the EU is suspended.
A bilateral agreement can be suspended. Fundamental freedoms can't. The same rules are on completely different legal footings.
In my community meat = chicken and fish. We are coastal people and have access to fresh fish and chickens. Even though we have refrigerators we rarely store meat in them. Sometimes we store cooked meat dish but to the extent possible we avoid it. We buy fish caught the same day in the morning and cook it and eat it the same day. Having said that we are vegetarians, 95-98% of the time. So even if we don't have meat for a year or two it is no big deal for us. People in the interior of India obviously may not have access to fresh fish but I am confident their meat is fresh.
I have gotten used to western-style chicken after coming to the US. Definitely prefer chicken in India. Still cannot eat frozen fish sold in grocery markets here in the US. My biggest issue is the lack of proper vegetarian options (salad does not count) in western cuisine, or maybe I should say US cuisine.
I thought Spain had closed its borders though
In fact looks like quite a lot of countries introduced temporary border controls
https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/w...sas/schengen/reintroduction-border-control_en
https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/w...sas/schengen/reintroduction-border-control_en
Oh fuck me, really? Really?!
The developing world food hygiene experts are now saying that the UK could maybe learn some animal husbandry, general hygiene and food commerce tips from fucking India, the World Superpower of outside toilets and shitting in the street?
Ahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
The developing world food hygiene experts are now saying that the UK could maybe learn some animal husbandry, general hygiene and food commerce tips from fucking India, the World Superpower of outside toilets and shitting in the street?
Ahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Then why are the borders between EU members closed if fundamental freedoms can't be suspended?
Anyway, Switzerland didn't suspend any agreements at all. Their restrictions are based on their national law, just like here in Austria.
Man, this is boring.
When did I ever say that? Can you point to my post or line where I have said western countries need to learn from India?
You'd be a lot better off squatting to poo too.
In Brendan's reality, all the strawmen are foreigners.
Don’t be such a moron, he was just explaining his own experience.
There is a world outside you little island Lord Britain and I know with current Corona league topping of performance of UK you may feel you don’t have to take a foreigner’s opinion but no need to shout a poster down like an ignoramus.
Meanwhile the homeless are getting kicked out of their accommodation.
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Two words: Mad Cow.
I thought we’d already established that you weren’t allowed to use examples of this sort of thing from First World Western Countries.
It makes it harder to blame China for everything.