Chelsea's ridiculously good injury record

[Frogfish]

And this season I'll ask the same question as each of the last 3 seasons after posting the injury days 'league table' (which no one ever seems to have even a notion of how to answer) .... how the fuck are Chelsea always around the bottom of the injury league ? If it's because of Eva then we have a vacancy.

 

[ChastenedMUFC]

Chelsea have a freakishly good injury record.

 

[Athens]

Chelsea have a freakishly good injury record.

Hopefully it's down to that doc that Maureen is punishing and she leaves to join Liverpool's staff.

 

[Dreambeliever]

And this season I'll ask the same question as each of the last 3 seasons after posting the injury days 'league table' (which no one ever seems to have even a notion of how to answer) .... how the fuck are Chelsea always around the bottom of the injury league ? If it's because of Eva then we have a vacancy.

Were they bottom before Jose arrived?

 

[Judge Jules]

I'd have thought it was unlikely to be down to the doc. She'd come into the picture after injuries happen, rather than before. I'd imagine it's more likely to be due to training schedules and methods. As an interesting example, our injury rate went up markedly when Souness arrived as manager and decided players would shower down immediately after training at Melwood instead of warming down first on the trip back to Anfield.

 

[Rosco]

And this season I'll ask the same question as each of the last 3 seasons after posting the injury days 'league table' (which no one ever seems to have even a notion of how to answer) .... how the fuck are Chelsea always around the bottom of the injury league ? If it's because of Eva then we have a vacancy.

It's more likely to be Bruno Dimicheles that is responsible for it.

 

[Frogfish]

I'd have thought it was unlikely to be down to the doc. She'd come into the picture after injuries happen, rather than before........

However it could also be to do with their recovery methods & programs, set up and supervised by their medical team (this Bruno Dimicheles, Ross mentions ?), retuning quicker and with less likelihood of reoccurrence. I'm just speculating of course but it is highly likely that something, whether training or medical or a combination of both, is responsible for their remarkably low injury count which inevitably contributes to their infield success. Of course it's Mourinho .... so they could also be aliens.

 

[Rosco]

Bruno Dimicheles joined Chelsea from the famous Milan lab, which was able to extend the careers of many players- Maldini, Seedorf, Beckham etc

They also have a medical director with a background in orthopaedics and biomechanics.

We have a few physios and a couple of fitness coaches of no real pedigree. We had Brukners team which appeared to be dragging us towards the future but got rid of them and went stone age again

I find it amazing that we pay so much for players but spend fuck all on ensuring we get the best out of them.

We're a million miles behind them.

 

[Dahuge]

Doesn't Mourinho play mostly the same team every week as well or at least has very little rotation. That surely can't be right as we are told that players can't play every game.

 

[Athens]

The pitches in Stamford bridge and their training grounds might have a part to play. I remember Brighton (well I think it was them) got new pitches installed that was more springy which meant that the players were less likely to suffer certain injuries, it also meant that players could return from injury a week or so earlier as their recoveries were quicker and the new training ground was more forgiving.

 

[Frogfish]

Just to complete the picture and emphasis their record, here are the other tables since 2010-2011. One freak season could be understood, but considering the added pressure week-in week-out of performing at or near the top of the PL, of their CL travels and high pressure matches and domestic cup success, there is obviously a correlation between their medical team and their exceedingly low injury record. Compare them to say United or Arsenal in particular .

2010-2011

2011-2012

2012-2013

2015-2016

 

[Rosco]

Let's not mention how they give players blood transfusions and engage in questionable blood spinning - which Wada have been looking into

 

[Athens]

Let's not mention how they give players blood transfusions and engage in questionable blood spinning - which Wada have been looking into

Can that prevent an injury?

 

[Rosco]

Can that prevent an injury?

Not all of them but yeah, it reduces the levels of inflammation in the body meaning players are at peak condition almost all of the time.

 

[Rosco]

And if you can do blood spinning you could easily set up a good HGH and testosterone regime which would never get caught.

They both have massive performance and recovery benefits.

 

[gkmacca]

I'd have thought it was unlikely to be down to the doc. She'd come into the picture after injuries happen, rather than before. I'd imagine it's more likely to be due to training schedules and methods. As an interesting example, our injury rate went up markedly when Souness arrived as manager and decided players would shower down immediately after training at Melwood instead of warming down first on the trip back to Anfield.

Yes. It was ironic that Souey came back armed with all of this European, modern knowledge of health, fitness and sports science, and then oversaw probably the worst period for injuries and out of condition players the club's seen in the post war era.

As for clubs and fitness generally - obviously the regimes are very important, but the clubs at the very top tend to have more players playing with injuries than other clubs do further down, because, well, they're enjoying being part of it. The great Liverpool teams didn't have super-fit players, they had the walking wounded for the final couple of months.

 

[Athens]

Not all of them but yeah, it reduces the levels of inflammation in the body meaning players are at peak condition almost all of the time.

I never thought of that, I thought it was just a recovery/recuperation thing.

 

[Woland]

When George Graham took over at Spurs they had the worst injury record in the league. He said the place had a state of the art fitness suite and loads of hot masseuses looking after the lads, so he shut it down in favour of a concrete cell with a ex army PT and most of the lads started training again overnight.

 

[Rosco]

I never thought of that, I thought it was just a recovery/recuperation thing.

It's that as well, you're less likely to develop those niggly chronic problems when you constantly reduce inflammation levels in the body.

The next step in that direction is Regenokine - which if you follow American sports at all, was used to bring Peyton Manning back to his best at age 37 - after four neck surgeries. As well as helping basketball players such as Dirk Nowitski minimise knee problems like tendinitis

 

[Rosco]

When George Graham took over at Spurs they had the worst injury record in the league. He said the place had a state of the art fitness suite and loads of hot masseuses looking after the lads, so he shut it down in favour of a concrete cell with a ex army PT and most of the lads started training again overnight.

We probably have a similar get up, we have stupid weights machines in our gym. And our players do trx.

I'd bring in the top MMA conditioning coaches and try something totally different with our lot

 

[gkmacca]

Who can forget the 'Sakho broke a machine in the gym - he's a beast!' story, followed by Sakho suffering multiple minor niggles after running about a bit.

 

[leftpeg]

Yes. It was ironic that Souey came back armed with all of this European, modern knowledge of health, fitness and sports science, and then oversaw probably the worst period for injuries and out of condition players the club's seen in the post war era.

And in Phil Boersma he had a 'physio' with the bedside manner of Harold Shipman.