Chelsea - Liverpool Pre Match Thread
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Why wouldn't it? You're talking about what's gone on in training with alot of ifs and buts about them maybe trusting Karius more, and you've then gone on to say that we don't really know about him until we see him play. We know nothing about what's gone on behind the scenes or how well he's integrated into the squad (or indeed the backline). No one is doubting that in the longterm Karius will replace Mignolet, that's why he was obviously brought in, but it's about timing too.
Before the Leicester game, people were asking why Grujic shouldn't replace Henderson, because he had struggled in two of the three games previous, then Henderson puts in a performance that looked back to his best and suddenly he's a given in the team again. Same with Sturridge. It's about timing. He'll come into the team, as will Klavan, eventually, when Klopp feels he's upto speed - at the right time. Not against a team that will be probably the most physically demanding one we've faced yet this season.
Yes he's played against Chelsea before, behind a well drilled defense he knew well.
This whole "he can't be any worse" attitude should be saved for the easier games coming up. Matip had a good run out in the cup, prior to playing against Spurs, because he needed the match practice to get upto speed, it'll be exactly the same for a few others.
Shit. He would have given us an option I would have liked.
WE don't know but Klopp does. If they look good in training there is no reason not to play Karius. This 'wait until Derby' bollocks is just that, IMO. It's like not changing the brake pads on your car because they haven't let you down ...yet.
I don't think anyone thought Grujic should replace Henderson before Leicester (look at the pre-match thread) because Henderson also played well against Spurs.
Spurs, who cover almost as much ground as we do, are the most physically demanding surely. Chelsea, who tend to sit back against us, shouldn't be. Not that this has much to do with a keeper though. Your comments in this regard may not be directed at him of course.
I don't think he knew Randall, Lovren, Ragnar and Moreno very well at all .. and I sincerely doubt they were well drilled ! Those were the four ahead of him. With Stewart and Grujic in midfield. Against what was an almost full strength Chelsea side. Karius with Matip / Lovren / Milner and Clyne should be even better.
Obviously Costa is back to his wild west villain worst this season, which means his best. How do we deal with him? I really hope Lucas is not playing at CB, because for all he's actually OK at the position (howling errors apart), Costa would ruin him.
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Ha– I was just changing that m'lud.
For someone who has regularly been derided for being a bit brainless on the pitch, he really doesn't help himself
Firmino-Sturridge-Mane
Wijnaldum-Lallana-Henderson
Milner-Lovren-Matip-Clyne
Karius
Subs: Mignolet, Moreno, Lucas Klavan Coutinho Grujic Origi
We have to keep the same front 6 they deserve it. No problem with Lovren for Lucas and believe Karius should come in.
If we go back to the end of last season we have now gone 6 games without a clean sheet the longest period for 4 years, and Mignolet is a major part of the problem. He should have done better with the Spurs goal he seemed to turn his back and was beaten on the near post (not for the first time), and also should not have played it to Lucas, admittedly Lucas should have done better but his cause wasn't helped by being closed down quicker than he should of been with the Leicester playing going through the box.
The quicker we start with that back 4 along with Karius the better in the long run for building the understanding and hopefully their will be no rotation.
Wijnaldum-Lallana-Henderson
Milner-Lovren-Matip-Clyne
Karius
Subs: Mignolet, Moreno, Lucas Klavan Coutinho Grujic Origi
We have to keep the same front 6 they deserve it. No problem with Lovren for Lucas and believe Karius should come in.
If we go back to the end of last season we have now gone 6 games without a clean sheet the longest period for 4 years, and Mignolet is a major part of the problem. He should have done better with the Spurs goal he seemed to turn his back and was beaten on the near post (not for the first time), and also should not have played it to Lucas, admittedly Lucas should have done better but his cause wasn't helped by being closed down quicker than he should of been with the Leicester playing going through the box.
The quicker we start with that back 4 along with Karius the better in the long run for building the understanding and hopefully their will be no rotation.
Studge hattrick. Minimum 2 goals for him.
Yep, that's often a requirement to getting a hat trick.
God I can't abide that fuckwit.
I like him. I can't help it. I think I *need* help
Am I the only one wondering which name out of Hazard and Costa the english professor had to C&P?
Azpazlaqueta. OK! HAPPY NOW?
Hahaha. I've realised I ended up deleting my bleating about Terry and Aspazlaqueta being their top passers and Hendo, Firmino and Lallana being ours. So the cutting and pasting would have seemed odd right enough.
Your myopia about Moreno is hilarious given every other player bar Mane isn't good enough. He's not just derided for being brainless on the pitch. He IS brainless on and off the pitch and I hope we fuck him off as soon as we can. I'm no Lucas fan but I'd rather a defence with him in it than this bellend every day of the week. Even though he can run fast.
I don't think it's inexplicable actually. He's a likeable guy and going forward he can be spectacular. That said, even in this day and age a fullback has to be able to defend and, while I've tried to stay in his corner as long as I can, his inability so far to improve his defensive play is worrying me.
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