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Cardiff post-match

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rurikbird

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Like others have said, an oddly frustrating game that fortunately turned out positively at the end. About half of the team played quite well, but the other half dragged the performance down so we made a lot harder work of this than we should have. After the obvious substitutions were made, we easily broke away from Cardiff like our quality deserved.

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Salah
– by far the best of the front 3 and maybe MOM, great movement to get himself in dangerous positions – unfortunately there was zero understanding with Lallana, so until Shaqiri came on most of the cute one-touch interchanges he was attempting broke down. Once he had a proper partner, we saw what he can do.
Fabinho – another promising performance from him, already looking like our best tackler. Was proper physical, but didn't give away any fouls that I can remember. His passing was typically forward-thinking and when the attack started looking flat at the end of first half, he tried to make things happen by carrying the ball forward or stationing himself on the wing. Towards the end (after Milner came on) got a useful run-out in his "less favored" position of a sole #6 with no dire consequences. No complaints about this performance whatsoever.
Trent – had the only remotely difficult defensive assignment of the team against the pacy Murphy and did well to contain him as well as contribute in attack. Too bad both of his shots didn't quite came off, but good to see him try. I wonder though if he looked better and busier simply because it was Moreno rather than Robertson on the other flank.
Van Dijk – imperious as always, unlucky with the deflection, but he had to try to intercept it.
Gini – Barely put a foot wrong all game. Probably the best sustained run of form I've seen from him in Liverpool.
Shaqiri – immediately brought more focus and creativity after coming on and the foot-work for the goal was sexy as hell. Hopefully this side-by-side comparison will be enough to convince Klopp that he should be way ahead of Lallana in the pecking order.

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Mane
– Sadio is a type of player who thrives on making himself unpredictable, on pulling off low-percentage plays that no other player would try to make. Unfortunately when our attacking game isn't working in general, this quality seems out of place and he just brings more chaos when the game needs the opposite. Scored a crucial 2nd goal through sheer speed and persistence and got rewarded with the 2nd (and his 50th for LFC) late on.
Alisson – had to do stretches and little jogs for most of the game just to keep himself warm, which made a conceded freak goal even more frustrating. Don't think anyone can blame him there; the ball was past him before he had a chance to move.


Lallana
– like everyone else I was surprised to see him on the teamsheet, but after a while I almost convinced myself that it made sense. After all he was one of our best players 2 seasons ago and probably deserves a chance to play back into form. I want him to succeed, but this was really hopelessly bad – for a playmaker to not have any useful understanding with any of the front 3 is simply not permissible. I can forgive a player out of match practice losing possession cheaply a few times in a game, but his whole style of play seemed so foreign in this team and I really think it dragged everybody down, even though the midfield, Salah and Mane were ready to shine in this game (and did once Lallana went off). You could say Klopp's gamble has paid off because we still won this game by 3 goals, but hopefully this performance will ensure we won't see Lallana against Arsenal.
Firmino – nothing was coming off for him in this game, the touch was unusually sloppy and he was uncharacteristically easily shoved off the ball a few times. Disappointing after he seemed on the way to finding his best form.
Lovren – I thought his performance was one of constant small mistakes; always flirting with disaster (and being bailed out by his teammates a few times). Maybe the fans as well as his teammates are getting spoiled by playing with Gomez, who is just so much faster and better on the ball that those Lovren near-panic situations would simply never arise. Maybe he's just rusty though – it was not too long ago when Lovren played genuinely well.
Moreno – didn't do anything too catastrophic, just a typical Moreno performance. One particularly stupid turn-over in midfield made me want to throw something at the screen.
The Ref – was there something about him being the youngest referee in the Premier League? Whatever it is, he seemed thoroughly overmatched at this level.
 
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Moreno – didn't do anything too catastrophic, just a typical Moreno performance. One particularly stupid turn-over in midfield made me want to throw something at the screen.

That's a bit kind, did you see his effort for their goal Rurik?
 
By the way, if we’re looking for a Moreno replacement (as we should be), Ben Chilwell looks really really lively for Leicester right now. I can see why Klopp wanted to sign him a year and a half ago and now he looks ready.
 
By the way, if we’re looking for a Moreno replacement (as we should be), Ben Chilwell looks really really lively for Leicester right now. I can see why Klopp wanted to sign him a year and a half ago and now he looks ready.

He will cost a fortune now. English premium and all that.
 
Don't we have our own young LB who is slowly being prepped for that back up role? Moreno was turd going forwards too, which is meant to be his strength. When he gets the ball he seems to just aimlessly cross it towards the far post every time. Fucking pointless.
 
Re: Shaqiri - i think he is being judged too much by his price tag in the sense of 'he was cheap from a relegated side, he must only be a part time player' which in fact he showed the sheer level of impact he can bring by knitting together our midfield and attack.

He simply has to start in that role vs Arsenal next weekend, although I can see us playing Fabinho, Gini & Millie.
 
The ref was promoted to the Elite list very quickly and then made a horrendous mistake (IIRC he gave a goal when the ball didn't actually go in the net) and since then he's never really regained his confidence since.
 
"Cardiff completed 120 passes in this match - just nine more than Liverpool midfielder Georginio Wijnaldum managed during the game - while the visitors could only muster two shots throughout the 90 minutes."
 
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The ref was promoted to the Elite list very quickly and then made a horrendous mistake (IIRC he gave a goal when the ball didn't actually go in the net) and since then he's never really regained his confidence since.

He did a ridiculously over-dramatic 'point' to signal a foul late on. It was as if he'd rehearsed it in a dance studio. Some awful decisions today.
 
By the way, if we’re looking for a Moreno replacement (as we should be), Ben Chilwell looks really really lively for Leicester right now. I can see why Klopp wanted to sign him a year and a half ago and now he looks ready.

Watched Leicester's games against Arsenal and West Ham.. and thought the same. He looks really good. Surprised at how quick he's become. Almost Bale-like power running at times. Hopefully another top 6 side (name Spurs/United) don't pick him up. But he's too good to be a bench/rotation player for us.
 
Salah was the best player on the park.

We were pretty dominant possession wise but poor I thought. Too many sloppy passes and we were so careful with the ball in midfield. No one took any chances. It was actually a very frustrating game to watch from the stands. Cardiff are fucking awful and were there for the taking.

Anyway, wins a win. I just can’t wait to see us play well again. It’s been a while.
 
I think having 85% possession creates that type of game though.
Gini has to be one of top midfielders in the league with this form. Very good once again.
 
Anyway, wins a win. I just can’t wait to see us play well again. It’s been a while.

It feels we've been saying "wait till we click" the whole year ... but I'll take all these points until we do.
Hope Spurs get a point minimum at theirs.
 
Yeah I feel really bad moaning about it. Best start we’ve had in my lifetime going the match. But we haven’t played well at all. You just feel like we are gonna come unstuck soon against a bag of shite.

Me and our kid met our evertonian cousin after the game and moaned about the performance... he was saying what the fuck are you moaning about, we are top of the league and unbeaten!

He’s got a point.
 
Yeah I feel really bad moaning about it. Best start we’ve had in my lifetime going the match. But we haven’t played well at all. You just feel like we are gonna come unstuck soon against a bag of shite.

Me and our kid met our evertonian cousin after the game and moaned about the performance... he was saying what the fuck are you moaning about, we are top of the league and unbeaten!

He’s got a point.

Yah i hear you ... expectations? fear? no clue really but I am trying to enjoy it ... As you say, best start ever, great players all around and a goalie & defense is class.

"Our kid" - your child!??!
 
Yah i hear you ... expectations? fear? no clue really but I am trying to enjoy it ... As you say, best start ever, great players all around and a goalie & defense is class.

"Our kid" - your child!??!

I dunno. I’ve never been this hopeful. I started going in 1991 so I’ve never seen us win the league. 2014 was tough. It was a rollercoaster. This season we seem more solid, but it’s always a worry that we will drop silly points.

I’m happy enough though.

Our kid - Our Mike. He was angling for a bit of hair sniffing, the bird on the row in front of us was amazing. He’s married now though, so refrained.
 
I think its great we are winning these games while effectively resting players.
Milner, Henderson, Mane, Shaqiri, Sturridge, Gomez, Trent, Robertson, Fabinho, Firmino all being given resting time in recent weeks.

To be over a quarter of the season down, sitting top with a team of rested players is a great place to be.

Only Salah, Virg and Wijnaldum seem to play pretty much every game, but even then with the exception of Virg they are coming off when games are won.

I dont know if it will help in the big shake up, but I dont see the players at Spurs, Arsenal, City and Chelsea getting a break.

Considering we havnt played that well, considering weve played City, Chelsea, Spurs already, considering we KNOW we have gears to go through and considering most of our key players are being rested (and getting fitter it seems) its difficult not to really really dream.

Big big test soon against Arsenal.
 
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