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Cardiff post-match

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Cardiff aren't very good are they? But after making heavy weather of it, and enjoying - but largely wasting - overwhelming possession, our match winners stepped up and helped secure the win. There are a few interesting points to discuss: why didn't Shaqiri start? And Klopp's new formation for "park the bus sides"

After much discussion about being able to change our style of play when we face sides that don't give us the space we need to play our Blitzkrieg Counterpress, we seem to have a semblance of two strategies and formations. We still have Plan A Blitzkrieg, with furious counterattacking and exploiting space with lightning quick breaks, but this only works against the top teams and those that want to play. For yer "sit back and suck it up" sides, like Cardiff and Man Utd, Klopp has a new idea up his sleeve; play two deep midfielders and play four up front when we attack, in a more 4-2-3-1 formation, rather than 4-3-3, and Firmino as the CAM.

This may mean that Fabinho gets more games, as this is the formation that Klopp has stated suits him more than our traditional 4-3-3. It's a bit early to make any definitive judgements, especially given how little we did with all that possession on Saturday, in a laboured win, but it's good to see some variation, and also more evidence of our improved squad depth.

Allison (6) I don't think they had a shot on target until they scored a slightly fluky goal to make it 2-1. Will be annoyed that he didn't keep another clean sheet, but I quite like seeing our keeper doing fuck all. Get some warmer under kit and try counting the lights or something, if you get bored.

TAA (6) Lots of attacking endeavour, as there wasn't an awful lot of defending to do, especially in the first half. Some fucking woeful crosses and set-pieces though. Busier after halftime, and even needed to sprint once or twice as Cardiff started to play a bit more down the left.

Virgil (7) He really needs his own chant. Won everything in the air as usual, and gambolled forward often, helping create a few more passing options and angles. Hit the post with a well-directed but weak header too.

Lovren (5) A few good clearances and interceptions, and some equally sloppy passes. Mixed bag really, he will always be vulnerable to positional errors, as he chases balls and players into areas he shouldn't go into, but one could argue that is being proactive....maybe. Anyway, ordinary overall.

Moreno (7) Did well in a rare appearance. Some lovely bursts of pace as he took the ball into Cardiff's half, and showed his usual enthusiasm in attack with much better final ball than TAA and some good tackles too.

Fabinho (7) Likes a proper tackle, although maybe likes going to ground a bit too much. Couple of nice bursts forward too, but he isn't the most accomplished passer in the world. Broke up play and provided a solid base. Another good display.

Wijnaldum (7) Neat, quick, and comfortable in possession, he was very involved and popped up in a variety of positions all over the pitch. Showing a consistency that is making his place in the team secure. Isn't going to steamroller the opposition, or make regular, eye-catching match-winning contributions, but is an important player so far this season. I hope he keeps it up.

Lallana (4) Had one header cleared off the line, but apart from one other neat pass, he was a passenger. Has zero pace, always takes one too many touches and slowed play to a crawl. Shaqiri is a far better player.

Mane (8) Never stopped running, probing and trying to make things happen, but often ran into trouble. But even when he loses the ball, his speed and strength means it's rarely a lost cause, as evidenced by his first goal. The second was a delightful chipped finish. Extra points for the goals.

Salah (8) He's getting closer to "Peak Mo". Scored one and made two more, with a splendidly creative and effective display of attacking prowess. Cardiff were terrified of his pace, skill and movement, and couldn't stop him.

Firmino (5) What a frustrating, stop-start season so far. He just can't seem to get going - especially in the league - with a dismal two goals in 10 games. He made runs and put the effort in, but his final pass wasn't there, the flicks and tricks went awry and he never looked close to scoring. Mediocre.

Subs:

Shaqiri (7) Injected energy, pace and creativity when he came on. Nice finish for the goal, too. Should have started.
 
Moreno was shite. As usual.

Just because you've FINALLY found one Liverpool player who isn't amazing/ better than Kane/ will come good/ priceless/ best player ever/ etc, you don't need to hammer it home by talking shit and being wrong about THAT player too.
 
It was a bit weird when Milner came on, he went to left back and Moreno went midfield. Then they swapped back again, then there was confusion, then they got a weird goal. Not sure if anyone knew what was meant to be going on.
 
I thought he was ok TBF. I mean I get the hate. The goal came from his side but it was a freak goal.

He was good. I mean, he wasn't perfect, but as the match thread shows, it's only Hansern - who everyone knows is fucking weird - who was banging on about Moreno all game. Almost everyone else said he was playing OK.

That is backed up by the various post-match ratings in a wide variety of media outlets, none of which gave Moreno less than 6, and most said he was actually pretty decent.

Hansern. Wrong again. At least some things never change.
 
He was good. I mean, he wasn't perfect, but as the match thread shows, it's only Hansern - who everyone knows is fucking weird - who was banging on about Moreno all game. Almost everyone else said he was playing OK.

That is backed up by the various post-match ratings in a wide variety of media outlets, none of which gave Moreno less than 6, and most said he was actually pretty decent.

Hansern. Wrong again. At least some things never change.

He wasnt good. He was his usual self. Out of position, creating an unbalance and disrupting the attacking play by being all over the place and with some sloppy passing. He had one or two very good involvements attacking wise, but that isnt enough.

But keep on making every post personal about the people that write them instead of the content. Comes with the job eh? Cunt.
 
I thought he was ok TBF. I mean I get the hate. The goal came from his side but it was a freak goal.

No hate, he was just poor. We all know he isnt good enough. One or two positive involvements attacking wise but he's just a liability defensively and creates an unbalance because of his limited tactical knowledge.
 
No hate, he was just poor. We all know he isnt good enough. One or two positive involvements attacking wise but he's just a liability defensively and creates an unbalance because of his limited tactical knowledge.
You don't have to convince me, I'm with you on that. Ok, I have en my pet hates as well but he wasn't that bad. I'd rather never see him play for us again though.
 
My mate was saying it was to stick him in the shop window. The only shop window he should be in is the actual club shop window, where he can't do any damage, the useless piece of shit. Playing him doesn't add value, he's likely to fuck something up and be even more difficult to move on. If these Arsenal rumours prove to be true I'll laugh my fucking dick off. He's the only utterly useless wank we still pick now and then. Unless you include Lallana, but that might be just coz he's coming back to fitness.
 
My mate was saying it was to stick him in the shop window. The only shop window he should be in is the actual club shop window, where he can't do any damage, the useless piece of shit. Playing him doesn't add value, he's likely to fuck something up and be even more difficult to move on. If these Arsenal rumours prove to be true I'll laugh my fucking dick off. He's the only utterly useless wank we still pick now and then. Unless you include Lallana, but that might be just coz he's coming back to fitness.

I'm unsure if the Arsenal rumours are just because he played for Emery in Spain, but there's no doubt they're fucking desperate for more options at LB, given they've played recently Xhaka there, and also Liechsteiner who isn't a leftback either.
 
Allison (6) I don't think they had a shot on target until they scored a slightly fluky goal to make it 2-1. Will be annoyed that he didn't keep another clean sheet, but I quite like seeing our keeper doing fuck all. Get some warmer under kit and try counting the lights or something, if you get bored.
I don't think that's a good idea for a keeper !
 
Yeah, it's Dick Emery's catchphrase. That's the "joke".

Unless you've found another one - which wouldn't surprise me at all, given what a profoundly weird cunt you are.
Haha I know that you complete douche! It's also a quote that Tony Blair said to a Sun journalist in 1997 after they won the election. As I said I figured you'd know that you fucking div.
 
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When you escort your son round the neighbour’s house to make him apologise for smashing their shed window.
 
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