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BYE BYE ROY!!!!!

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42120.msg1244878#msg1244878 date=1294319330]
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=42120.msg1244874#msg1244874 date=1294319189]
I'm guessing Gerrard wanted an English manager anyway, he certainly did before Rafa arrived.
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he wanted curbishley but we dodged the bullet but he eventually got his wish (an english manager) in the end.

yay...
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I heard that as well.
 
Not the first post you'd like to see first on the infamous page 100 George.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=42120.msg1245001#msg1245001 date=1294326305]
Even if they don't sack him, they must surely say SOMETHING?
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Like they are nw to this and they need time to learn? Fuck them.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=42120.msg1245001#msg1245001 date=1294326305]
Even if they don't sack him, they must surely say SOMETHING?
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Yeah, the fact that they haven't could be encouraging. Then again, maybe not...
 
ITK

'roy is going to be sacked after wolves regardless'

'roy is going to be sacked after blackburn regardless'

it will be

'roy is going to be sacked after manu regardless'

rince and repeat after every game till the summer. in the know my ARSE!!
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=42120.msg1245001#msg1245001 date=1294326305]
Even if they don't sack him, they must surely say SOMETHING?
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I was thinking this, it's strange they've not even given him the kiss of death.
 
I only caught the tail end of it, but there was something on the TalkSport news at 2.00 to the effect of NESV having said the current position is "not encouraging". I listened for quite a while afterwards but didn't hear more.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42120.msg1245023#msg1245023 date=1294327425]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=42120.msg1245001#msg1245001 date=1294326305]
Even if they don't sack him, they must surely say SOMETHING?
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I was thinking this, it's strange they've not even given him the kiss of death.
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what's the point?

nesv - 'we are fully behind roy'
fans - 'oohhh, kiss of death'

nesv - 'results are unacceptable'
fans - 'oohhh, roy's a gonna'
 
[quote author=mr_moo link=topic=42120.msg1245356#msg1245356 date=1294350183]
Get on with it NESV for fucks sake - what is there to consider other than the bleeding obvious?
[/quote]May be nesv are best buddies with the glazier family..
 
Now the LMA guy is moaning about people losing their jobs. Why are people so desperate to defend him? WE ARE ON COURSE FOR OUR WORST SEASON IN OVER 50 YEARS.
 
The whole Woy situation is utterly exasperating. We've put up with this for months now when it was obvious very early doors that it was a fucking disaster. NESV, FSG... whatever the fuck they're called need to do something about it already.
 
five years from now we will look back as roy collects his 3rd league title and 2nd CL throphy and say 'hard to believe I wanted roy out on his arse in his first season'...
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42120.msg1245378#msg1245378 date=1294353291]
five years from now we will look back as roy collects his 3rd league title and 2nd CL throphy and say 'hard to believe I wanted roy out on his arse in his first season'...
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There's more chance of you actually being Spider Man.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=42120.msg1245379#msg1245379 date=1294353367]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42120.msg1245378#msg1245378 date=1294353291]
five years from now we will look back as roy collects his 3rd league title and 2nd CL throphy and say 'hard to believe I wanted roy out on his arse in his first season'...
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There's more chance of you actually being Spider Man.
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*chuckles to himself*

*pulls on mask*

*swings off*
 
Sacking Roy Hodgson is not enough for Liverpool's Spanish stars• Torres and Reina want high-profile manager
• Money must also be available for transfers


Sid Lowe in Madrid and Andy Hunter guardian.co.uk, Thursday 6 January 2011 21.28 GMT Article history
Roy Hodgson is facing pressure from all sides as he struggles to stay in charge at Anfield. Photograph: Press Association Images

Liverpool's new owners have been warned that even the sacking of Roy Hodgson might not be enough to stave off an exodus of their key players, including Fernando Torres and Pepe Reina. Although the manager's departure appears inevitable, and the two Spanish players would not leave during the winter transfer window, frustration at the club's inertia means they will go in the summer if they are not convinced by the new manager and handed reassurances of major investment.

The choice currently before Liverpool's owners, John W Henry and Tom Werner, is a huge one which will bring with it significant consequences. For some senior players sacking Hodgson is a step in the right direction. But while Hodgson continuing at the club would guarantee summer departures, his exit does not necessarily mean that Liverpool will be able to keep hold of their most important assets. With Liverpool immersed in a sale process last summer moves were blocked for Steven Gerrard, Torres and Reina; this year, it will be harder to prevent their departure. Liverpool quoted prices so prohibitive as to be a "not for sale" sign. At the same time reassurances were made regarding ambitions. Hopes had been pinned on new ownership and massive investment. As yet only half of that proposition has come to pass.

The arrival of a recognised, high-achieving coach will be vital if they are not to push for a transfer. Didier Deschamps, who was interviewed for the job last summer and remains a favoured candidate, appeared to rule himself out yesterday. The Marseille coach said: "When I talk about being the coach of Marseille in the new stadium, I mean it. It is an idea that pleases me. Now, 2014 is a very long way away in my profession. But I have said people should understand I am not a tramp. I proved it last year. I could have left."

Key Anfield squad members have been dismayed by the lack of activity from the new owners since they took over in mid?October.

The lack of activity in this transfer window only increases that impression, with the club currently considering an offer for the Tottenham defender Vedran Corluka. Players feel that promises have been broken before and will not endure another season of underachievement and uncertainty.

Possible destinations are already being studied in case they should be required, but no decisions have been taken. Those clubs that tabled bids for Gerrard, Torres, Reina and Dirk Kuyt last summer are not necessarily expected to return 12 months on. The players are not expected to consider a move to Manchester United.

Following Liverpool's 3-1 defeat against Blackburn Hodgson refused to discuss a possible sacking, saying: "I am not prepared to talk about my future. At this moment I am depressed enough with the performance and the result. I am not here to talk about that. I have no comments to make and I don't intend to answer any questions on the subject." The club's director of communications then brought the press conference to a close and there was no indication from the owners today that they intend to change manager before Sunday's FA Cup third-round tie at Manchester United.

But Hodgson's days at Anfield are numbered. Fans have railed against him – he was met with graffiti at the club's training ground yesterday – and pressure builds to replace him. Progress is stalled by the absence of a chief executive at Anfield and the fact that the New England Sports Ventures group that owns the club continues to be based in the United States.

There has also been little opportunity over the Christmas period properly to discuss the club's next move. Kenny Dalglish, who currently occupies an ambassadorial role, made it clear that he wanted the manager's job in the summer before the former regime employed Hodgson – and he is still keen to take charge. There is, however, a reluctance to make a definitive decision at this stage, which only increases the uncertainty. With the situation being monitored closely by key players, it is a decision that must be made carefully.
 
Liverpool were broken when Hodgson found them - Keegan
Published 23:01 06/01/11 By David Maddock


Kevin Keegan last night blamed “decades of decline†for Liverpool’s plight under Roy Hodgson – and not the embattled Anfield boss.

The club’s 1970s hero believes Sunday’s FA Cup trip to Manchester United represents the game in which Hodgson can still turn round Liverpool’s campaign and his own fortunes.

But Keegan is shocked by the state of the Merseyside giants and insisted: “The decline of the club is not down to Roy Hodgson. It goes back way before he came.

"All you can blame Hodgson for is the 20-odd games he’s been in charge. He’s picked those teams. The problem Liverpool have got is that they are trying to live with history. We all over-achieved for that club. There’s no divine right to win the league, no divine right to win it year after year.


“But the standards have been set and these players have not been able to live up them. They’ve not won the league for 20 years and it’s getting longer every minute.

“Hodgson has been in charge for about 20 games. If they thought he was right in June, what are they going to do to back him?

“The attention over the last two or three years has been away from the manager and on the owners. The fans are looking at a lot of things and the players have to look at themselves as well.

“You can’t blame Roy for the lack of talent coming through, for the fact they’re playing in a stadium I played in and that has hardly changed since before I arrived 40 years ago. It’s too simple just to say: ‘Hodgson has got to go.’â€

Keegan added: “The new owners have got some big decisions to make.

“Fans don’t have unrealistic expectations but they want to go on a Saturday and see their team play.

“Those Liverpool fans are used to seeing opponents turning up at Anfield worrying about what was coming, fearing conceding an early goal, not wanting to kick towards the Kop if they won the toss. But you can’t say that any more.

"Teams have gone to Anfield for the last few years and had a go because they think: ‘Liverpool haven’t got six or seven good players any more – they’ve got two. If you can stop Gerrard and keep Torres quiet, what else have they got?' The answer is not very much and the players have had plenty of opportunities to prove otherwise.

“Manchester United away is the hardest game you could have, but in some ways it’s the best game they could have. If they were going to Derby or Nottingham Forest and got beat, that would be pretty lethal.

“The FA Cup is their last chance this season. They can’t win anything else. They’re still in Europe, but there will be some big teams in the last eight of the Europa League, they’re not going to get in the Champions League again and they’re falling behind the top four all the time.â€

Liverpool have already suffered nine league defeats – with just one away win all season.

Some of those defeats have been shambolic. Being outplayed at home by Blackpool was bad enough, as was losing to Newcastle. But the last two losses, against Wolves and Blackburn, have hinted at a deeper malaise.

Against Wolves and Blackburn, the lack of commitment, character and heart in the side bordered on the criminal.

At Ewood Park, only Steven Gerrard, Pepe Reina and, to a lesser extent, Lucas looked as though they cared. The blame for that, of course, rests squarely with the manager.

But a theme seems to be recurring with this current crop of players.

They too often lacked heart under Rafa Benitez last season and now it looks set to cost Hodgson his job.

Steve McManaman, an FA Cup winner with Liverpool in 1992, accepts that fan discontent – something which never surfaced even in the final days of Graeme Souness, Gerard Houllier or Rafa Benitez – could prove terminal for Hodgson.

“This has been the worse it’s been for a while,†said McManaman. “When you hear Roy talk, he’s a very affable man and seems a great bloke. When he’s on the television, I think his interviews are great.

“The managers seem to really like him. I don’t think it’s a problem with him and the fans, but if you lose more games than you win thenthere’s a problem.

“If they beat Manchester United and Everton and the other teams they’ll all be singing his name again. Of course he can get them back on side.â€



Poor Roy. Not his fault.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8244624/Liverpools-beleaguered-manager-Roy-Hodgson-set-to-be-given-one-more-chance-to-save-his-job.html

The Frenchman’s apparent expression of loyalty will come as a blow to FSG, who are believed to be examining the credentials of a number of Europe’s most promising managers ahead of making the first permanent appointment of their reign in Merseyside in the summer.

Andre Villas Boas, the Porto manager and Jose Mourinho’s former assistant, has been considered, though FSG harbour doubts over the 33 year-old’s age and inexperience, while Jurgen Klopp, at Borussia Dortmund, is admired by Damien Comolli, Liverpool’s director of football strategy.

The 43 year-old has recently signed a contract extension with the Bundesliga side and has done little to suggest he would be willing to move.

Such problems, though, will not be enough to keep Hodgson at Anfield until the end of the season.
 
They can't just let him stay on surely.....

Fuck me.

These new owners better start realising how desperate the fans are or 35,000 will be a bumper crowd in the near future, i'm fucking sick of the club being awful day after day month after month .... it aint on.

And we still desperately need a fucking striker STILL.
 
[quote author=Richey link=topic=42120.msg1245528#msg1245528 date=1294390478]
Didier Deschamps, who was interviewed for the job last summer

Fucking hell, we actually interviewed other people and still chose Hodgson??!!
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Didier asked for a big salary, a completely new back room staff and big investment during the summer which didn't match the brief given to the board interviewers - cheap, simple and minimal change
 
If ever you wanted true confirmation that Hodgson has to go (not that we need it), it's right there in the words of Kevin Keegan.
 
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