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BYE BYE ROY!!!!!

[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=42120.msg1245850#msg1245850 date=1294423843]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=42120.msg1245823#msg1245823 date=1294417355]
[quote author=JimmyK link=topic=42120.msg1245816#msg1245816 date=1294416575]
When they have a suitable replacement lined up.
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Thats not good enough. That could be valid still in april.
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Er, didn't the replacement of one coach who'd lost it with another who's f$%!ing pathetic get us into this predicament in the first place..? What state would we be in if they replaced RH with somebody even worse still (I know, don't bother...), just do so something, anything? Then you'd moan even harder.
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Well... Then i agree. If people have absolutly no clue and their next decision by luck or unluck will be better or wiese than the last, then dont make any decisions. Rather ask yourself what the fuck you are doing in a decision making position in the first place.
 
Well according to an article on goal.com Roy is Mr. Motivator! Apparently he gave an emotional speech to the team and told them that he expects to be sacked sometime next week after the Utd game.

Heart warming!
 
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=42120.msg1245854#msg1245854 date=1294424127]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=42120.msg1245850#msg1245850 date=1294423843]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=42120.msg1245823#msg1245823 date=1294417355]
[quote author=JimmyK link=topic=42120.msg1245816#msg1245816 date=1294416575]
When they have a suitable replacement lined up.
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Thats not good enough. That could be valid still in april.
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Er, didn't the replacement of one coach who'd lost it with another who's f$%!ing pathetic get us into this predicament in the first place..? What state would we be in if they replaced RH with somebody even worse still (I know, don't bother...), just do so something, anything? Then you'd moan even harder.
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Well... Then i agree. If people have absolutly no clue and their next decision by luck or unluck will be better or wiese than the last, then dont make any decisions. Rather ask yourself what the fuck you are doing in a decision making position in the first place.
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What in the name of f'ck does that mean?
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42120.msg1245896#msg1245896 date=1294431349]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=42120.msg1245854#msg1245854 date=1294424127]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=42120.msg1245850#msg1245850 date=1294423843]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=42120.msg1245823#msg1245823 date=1294417355]
[quote author=JimmyK link=topic=42120.msg1245816#msg1245816 date=1294416575]
When they have a suitable replacement lined up.
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Thats not good enough. That could be valid still in april.
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Er, didn't the replacement of one coach who'd lost it with another who's f$%!ing pathetic get us into this predicament in the first place..? What state would we be in if they replaced RH with somebody even worse still (I know, don't bother...), just do so something, anything? Then you'd moan even harder.
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Well... Then i agree. If people have absolutly no clue and their next decision by luck or unluck will be better or wiese than the last, then dont make any decisions. Rather ask yourself what the fuck you are doing in a decision making position in the first place.
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What in the name of f'ck does that mean?
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That means that the guy suggest that whoever we replace Roy with could turn out even worse. So I say if you dont know what decisions you are making you shouldnt make them. You should rather wonder why you are in position to make them.
 
...which would leave Roy in his job. You're in such a rush to have a pop at "the Yanks" that you're eating your own tail.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42120.msg1245910#msg1245910 date=1294432302]
...which would leave Roy in his job. You're in such a rush to have a pop at "the Yanks" that you're eating your own tail.
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This was not Especially for the americans. Just a general advise. Stay away from decisionmaking positions if are not capable of making any. Lots of people should pay attention to that one. 😉
 
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=42120.msg1245985#msg1245985 date=1294438651]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42120.msg1245910#msg1245910 date=1294432302]
...which would leave Roy in his job. You're in such a rush to have a pop at "the Yanks" that you're eating your own tail.
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This was not Especially for the americans. Just a general advise. Stay away from decisionmaking positions if are not capable of making any. Lots of people should pay attention to that one. 😉
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That's true. None of our new owners know how to make a decision.

That's why they're billionaires who have been incredibly successful in their other business ventures, including those sports teams that they own.
 
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=42120.msg1245995#msg1245995 date=1294439840]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=42120.msg1245985#msg1245985 date=1294438651]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42120.msg1245910#msg1245910 date=1294432302]
...which would leave Roy in his job. You're in such a rush to have a pop at "the Yanks" that you're eating your own tail.
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This was not Especially for the americans. Just a general advise. Stay away from decisionmaking positions if are not capable of making any. Lots of people should pay attention to that one. 😉
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That's true. None of our new owners know how to make a decision.

That's why they're billionaires who have been incredibly successful in their other business ventures, including those sports teams that they own.
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They might be billionaires. But billionaires never fascinated me. Not at all.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42120.msg1246428#msg1246428 date=1294492401]
PaulHayward_gnm Paul Hayward
Hodgson removed by popular revolt. Inexperienced owners terrified of becoming as unpopular as Hicks and Gillett. No stain on Hodgson's cv.
2 minutes ago

fuck off!
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Dont be harsh. Being sacked by Liverpool is the biggest achievment in Hodgson career. No stain on the CV which besides Liverpool includes Örebro, Viking, Finland, København and Halmstad.
 
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=42120.msg1246525#msg1246525 date=1294494663]
Dont be harsh. Being sacked by Liverpool is the biggest achievment in Hodgson career. No stain on the CV which besides Liverpool includes Örebro, Viking, Finland, København and Halmstad.
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hahahaa!
 
Good luck Roy, it didn't work out and it was an appointment that happened under poor circumstances, but you did the best you could.

YNWA.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42120.msg1246548#msg1246548 date=1294495559]
Good luck Roy, it didn't work out and it was an appointment that happened under poor circumstances, but you did the best you could.

YNWA.
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...and your leaving statement was generous-spirited and does you great credit.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42120.msg1246550#msg1246550 date=1294495615]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42120.msg1246548#msg1246548 date=1294495559]
Good luck Roy, it didn't work out and it was an appointment that happened under poor circumstances, but you did the best you could.

YNWA.
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...and your leaving statement was generous-spirited and does you great credit.
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Certainly was:

Roy Hodgson said: "Being asked to manage Liverpool Football Club was a great privilege. Any manager would be honoured to manage a club with such an incredible history, such embedded tradition and such an amazing set of fans. Liverpool is one of the great clubs in world football. I have, however, found the last few months some of the most challenging of my career. I am very sad not to have been able to put my stamp on the squad, to be given the time to bring new players into the club in this transfer window and to have been able to be part of the rebuilding process at Liverpool. The club has some great, world-class players, with whom it has been a pleasure to work and I wish the entire squad well for the rest of the season. I thank those with whom I have built up a close working relationship at the club for their loyalty and support during very testing times, and finally of course to the Liverpool fans, your passion and dedication to the club will see Liverpool at the top of the game once more."
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42120.msg1246550#msg1246550 date=1294495615]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42120.msg1246548#msg1246548 date=1294495559]
Good luck Roy, it didn't work out and it was an appointment that happened under poor circumstances, but you did the best you could.

YNWA.
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...and your leaving statement was generous-spirited and does you great credit.
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True

But to be fair, he did walk alone. That cant be hided away.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42120.msg1246550#msg1246550 date=1294495615]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42120.msg1246548#msg1246548 date=1294495559]
Good luck Roy, it didn't work out and it was an appointment that happened under poor circumstances, but you did the best you could.

YNWA.
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...and your leaving statement was generous-spirited and does you great credit.
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surprised that he did not mess this one up. must have been drafted with his agent or some PR person.
 
Here's a thing about Roy Hodgson. An intelligent man, one of the few football types who knows which way up to hold a book, Hodgson's favourite novelist is JP Donleavy. A grand choice, is that; the Irish-American is one of the 20th century's greatest writers. But Roy's pick from the Donleavy canon – defined by the bona fide 1955 classic The Ginger Man – is a throwaway 1979 effort called Schultz, a novel the author himself would struggle to recall. This is like saying your favourite Shakespeare play is Timon of Athens, or that your favourite Beatles song is PS I Love You. Or that the most dependable left-back in the world is Paul Konchesky.

It's not a particularly relevant point, granted. But it is an instructive one. The man's judgment is shot to bits. Anyway, it's less brutal to raise the subject this way, instead of picking on poor old Christian Poulsen again.

No doubt there will soon be paeans published to Hodgson's abilities, bemoaning the old boy's luck. And indeed it wasn't his fault that his reign was doomed from the start, tarnished as he was for being appointed by the reviled former owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett, and the club's erstwhile CEO, confused real-life Championship Manager addict Christian Purslow. Hodgson also replaced the sainted Rafael Benítez, who had probably run his course at Anfield – his ill-fated tilt at the title in 2009 always looked more like the bittersweet denouement of a glorious golden age, rather than the first blossoming of a bright new era – but nevertheless had deservedly cemented his status as an Anfield legend after a series of giddy successes.

So yes, Hodgson's task was always nigh-on impossible. But for a man so feted by his peers, he went about his business in a remarkably cack-handed way. Konchesky and Poulsen were, it hardly needs pointing out, laughably bad signings. On the other hand, Raul Meireles was an inspired purchase, yet sticking him out on the wing was akin to splashing out on a Bentley then taking it to Sainsbury's car park to spin a few doughnuts.

His interviews, designed to keep the Sir Alexes of this world happy, were excruciating for fans brought up on rallying cries. The tactics were not quite route one, but lumpen and regressive enough to be dismissed as route zero. (Brief tactical aside: whenever Liverpool conceded, Benítez copped regular flak from pundits for employing a zonal marking system; Andy Gray has kept very quiet about Hodgson's less successful man-to-man deployment.) And the manager's repeated attempts to keep Steven Gerrard happy by stationing him in the middle, where the player simply has no clue, pleased nobody other than the deluded captain, who should stick to what he is good at.

And there's the rub. Hodgson is at heart a politician, a nice industry man, saying and doing the right thing in order to keep everyone happy and get along. His modest achievements were, as a result, talked up by other nice industry men – is anybody outside the media bubble seriously impressed by a 35-year gadfly career untainted by success outside Scandinavia? – and like all good company men who keep ploughing their furrow, Hodgson was eventually rewarded with the keys to the executive bathroom. Promoted to a level above his competence, he soon flooded it, a comedy tail of toilet paper found sticking out the back of his trousers.

So to the future. Is King Kenny a wise appointment? Possibly not – Dalglish's stints at Newcastle and Celtic were pretty poor, and he's not worked at the top level of the game since then, a decade away from the heat of the kitchen. Yet his achievements are strangely underplayed: the man has won four English titles, for goodness sake, and fashioned arguably the greatest pure footballing side the league has ever seen. (Liverpool's 1987-88 team could teach modern-day Arsenal a thing or two about trying to walk the ball into the net.)

Though the sideline snipers will doubtless try to argue otherwise, the denizens of the Kop aren't stupid. Despite joyfully throwing their arms open to greet a loved one finally coming home, they know deep down that the 59-year-old Dalglish isn't the long-term solution to Liverpool's travails. Big decisions will be made down the line. But Dalglish understands the club, and at the moment that's all the fans ask. His presence should be enough to steady a rocking ship, though FA Cup defeat followed by mid-table anonymity is the likeliest outcome. But even if the worst happens – if the team's decline continues inexorably, and a shocked Liverpool find themselves in the Championship next season – Dalglish is unlikely ever to find himself, like Hodgson did, walking alone.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=42120.msg1246550#msg1246550 date=1294495615]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=42120.msg1246548#msg1246548 date=1294495559]
Good luck Roy, it didn't work out and it was an appointment that happened under poor circumstances, but you did the best you could.

YNWA.
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...and your leaving statement was generous-spirited and does you great credit.
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Agrees with the both of you.

Good luck Roy. Liverpool wasn't your destination.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=42120.msg1246660#msg1246660 date=1294500426]
Who wrote that? The snipe at SG suggests a RAWk merchant.
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Scott Murray, Guardian.
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=42120.msg1246741#msg1246741 date=1294504387]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=42120.msg1246660#msg1246660 date=1294500426]
Who wrote that? The snipe at SG suggests a RAWk merchant.
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Scott Murray, Guardian.
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Well he's a twat.
 
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