BYE BYE ROY!!!!!
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I think that is frigging GREAT news.
If they are putting Kenny in charge of transfers they might as well put him in charge of the team.
I can see how having a director of football might work if you have a decent team manager/coach but it rarely seems to. And we don't have that anyway.
I don't really see the point of making any signings while Hodgson is in charge to be honest, given that is should be pretty obvious he's not going to be here for long.
I can see how having a director of football might work if you have a decent team manager/coach but it rarely seems to. And we don't have that anyway.
I don't really see the point of making any signings while Hodgson is in charge to be honest, given that is should be pretty obvious he's not going to be here for long.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42120.msg1205296#msg1205296 date=1287998273]
I think that is frigging GREAT news.
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Yup.
Torres out, Jimmy Carter and Jon Dahl Tomasson in!
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It's OK, they'll be back-ups for John Barnes and Peter Beardsley.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42120.msg1205296#msg1205296 date=1287998273]
I think that is frigging GREAT news.
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Yup.
Torres out, Jimmy Carter and Jon Dahl Tomasson in!
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It's OK, they'll be back-ups for John Barnes and Peter Beardsley.
If this is true then I don't think it's good news in terms of seeing the back of Woy.
I mean why would they dick about shuffling the pack only to ditch the boss soon after? No matter who the new coach is, they'd have their own ideas on scouting - so this would seem to me to mean that he's staying put.
I mean why would they dick about shuffling the pack only to ditch the boss soon after? No matter who the new coach is, they'd have their own ideas on scouting - so this would seem to me to mean that he's staying put.
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42120.msg1205304#msg1205304 date=1287998606]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42120.msg1205296#msg1205296 date=1287998273]
I think that is frigging GREAT news.
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Yup.
Torres out, Jimmy Carter and Jon Dahl Tomasson in!
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It's OK, they'll be back-ups for John Barnes and Peter Beardsley.
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Heh, there'll be a ray hiughton for you to (unfairly) hate.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42120.msg1205304#msg1205304 date=1287998606]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42120.msg1205296#msg1205296 date=1287998273]
I think that is frigging GREAT news.
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Yup.
Torres out, Jimmy Carter and Jon Dahl Tomasson in!
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It's OK, they'll be back-ups for John Barnes and Peter Beardsley.
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Heh, there'll be a ray hiughton for you to (unfairly) hate.
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42120.msg1205304#msg1205304 date=1287998606]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42120.msg1205296#msg1205296 date=1287998273]
I think that is frigging GREAT news.
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Yup.
Torres out, Jimmy Carter and Jon Dahl Tomasson in!
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It's OK, they'll be back-ups for John Barnes and Peter Beardsley.
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I know, JEEZ! have liverpool bought a better trio at one time than digger, aldo and beardo? let's not make out kenny was hopeless in the transfer maket, eh?
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=42120.msg1205304#msg1205304 date=1287998606]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=42120.msg1205296#msg1205296 date=1287998273]
I think that is frigging GREAT news.
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Yup.
Torres out, Jimmy Carter and Jon Dahl Tomasson in!
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It's OK, they'll be back-ups for John Barnes and Peter Beardsley.
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I know, JEEZ! have liverpool bought a better trio at one time than digger, aldo and beardo? let's not make out kenny was hopeless in the transfer maket, eh?
John Dahl Tommason was a good player at one point of time.
"an internet poll of Liverpool fans before this game revealed 65 per cent actually wanted Blackburn to win, in the hope of putting them and their manager out of his misery."
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/hodgson-calls-for-more-hard-work-after-vital-win-2115677.html
[quote author=The Independent]
You know things are looking bad when Gerry Marsden is out leading the rendition of a certain famous Anfield anthem. If that didn't confirm that Roy Hodgson truly is walking alone, an internet poll of Liverpool fans before this game revealed 65 per cent actually wanted Blackburn to win, in the hope of putting them and their manager out of his misery.
The consequences of that outcome certainly didn't bare contemplation. Even the new owner, John W Henry, absent through illness but likely to be here to see Chelsea in two weeks' time, said beforehand, perhaps ominously, that this was an important day at Anfield "in more ways than one."
Almost as important as the result, which still left Liverpool grounded in the bottom three, was the evidence that Hodgson's players possess a belief in him which so many outside of the Anfield gates lack. Their pace and intensity, in the first half especially, made this their best performance under the new manager and, for once, Steven Gerrard was not the sole torch-bearer. The invention of Lucas Leiva proved that one of the most maligned remnants of the Rafael Benitez era deserves better. So, too, Maxi Rodriguez, while Raul Meireles – a far more ambitious holding midfielder than Christian Poulsen – finally revealed himself to be the powerful box-to-box player observers had talked of when Hodgson signing him.
This was a different kind of Fernando Torres, too. His matchwinning goal – his first since the strike at home to West Bromwich Albion in August which secured Liverpool their only other domestic win of this season – was not part of a huge personal contribution. But the sight of Torres in the centre circle just after scoring, stretching and testing his troublesome groin, further illustrated the player's anxiety about an injury that has haunted him since the World Cup.
"He was very down when he came back from the World Cup," Hodgson said of Torres last night. "Maybe people are down when they are criticised left, right and centre. It does get people down. He is just coming out of that and starting to find his joy at playing again."
It really would help Liverpool fans' own emotional state if Hodgson could find a little more joy himself. Their league position really does not bear deep analysis so early – they sit just six points behind fifth-placed Tottenham – but Hodgson was still downbeat last night and batted away suggestions that this win might be a catalyst for further improvement.
"I don't know what catalysts are," he said. "I don't want to say things are hunky-dory. The expectations on us are greater than we are capable of achieving immediately and if we're not the Liverpool of yore, we'll work hard to get there."
Has this club deteriorated to such an extent? It didn't seem that way when they created at least ten chances in the first half – the stellar performance of Blackburn keeper Paul Robinwould have had Fabio Capello lamenting his international retirement.
But when Liverpool reached the interval still deadlocked, Meireles and Rodriguez having spurned the best opportunities, it appeared Hodgson was cursed. That sense deepened when the goal which his side so richly deserved – Sotirios Kyrgiakos powering in a header from Gerrard's corner – was cancelled out in a comedy of errors. As if the sight of substitute Benjani Mwaruwari haring around Paul Konchesky to cross was not bad enough for Hodgson, El-Hadji Diouf's shot through Jamie Carragher's legs was cleared off the line back by Konchesky – straight into Carragher and back across the goalline. It was a damning snapshot of Hodgson's defence this season.
Reina's reaction was telling, though, as he raced out of goal clutching the ball and his team-mates shared the urgency. Joe Cole's contribution to the match was still not enough to suggest that the fields of Anfield Road are delivering him any salvation but his clipped ball minutes later for Torres, who sprang away from the central defenders to side-foot home, was the match's most decisive one.
Sam Allardyce justifiably mourned the absence of the suspended Chris Samba. "When I see the second goal – Torres free six yards out for a little side-footer and none of our players near him at all – it's the reason why I say I'm missing players," he said.
Don't expect any less gloom from the Liverpool manager, though. Three points are needed at Bolton next Sunday to avoid the prospect of facing Chelsea while still rooted in the bottom three, but Hodgson has not won any of his last 22 away games, dating back to his time in charge of Fulham.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/hodgson-calls-for-more-hard-work-after-vital-win-2115677.html
[quote author=The Independent]
You know things are looking bad when Gerry Marsden is out leading the rendition of a certain famous Anfield anthem. If that didn't confirm that Roy Hodgson truly is walking alone, an internet poll of Liverpool fans before this game revealed 65 per cent actually wanted Blackburn to win, in the hope of putting them and their manager out of his misery.
The consequences of that outcome certainly didn't bare contemplation. Even the new owner, John W Henry, absent through illness but likely to be here to see Chelsea in two weeks' time, said beforehand, perhaps ominously, that this was an important day at Anfield "in more ways than one."
Almost as important as the result, which still left Liverpool grounded in the bottom three, was the evidence that Hodgson's players possess a belief in him which so many outside of the Anfield gates lack. Their pace and intensity, in the first half especially, made this their best performance under the new manager and, for once, Steven Gerrard was not the sole torch-bearer. The invention of Lucas Leiva proved that one of the most maligned remnants of the Rafael Benitez era deserves better. So, too, Maxi Rodriguez, while Raul Meireles – a far more ambitious holding midfielder than Christian Poulsen – finally revealed himself to be the powerful box-to-box player observers had talked of when Hodgson signing him.
This was a different kind of Fernando Torres, too. His matchwinning goal – his first since the strike at home to West Bromwich Albion in August which secured Liverpool their only other domestic win of this season – was not part of a huge personal contribution. But the sight of Torres in the centre circle just after scoring, stretching and testing his troublesome groin, further illustrated the player's anxiety about an injury that has haunted him since the World Cup.
"He was very down when he came back from the World Cup," Hodgson said of Torres last night. "Maybe people are down when they are criticised left, right and centre. It does get people down. He is just coming out of that and starting to find his joy at playing again."
It really would help Liverpool fans' own emotional state if Hodgson could find a little more joy himself. Their league position really does not bear deep analysis so early – they sit just six points behind fifth-placed Tottenham – but Hodgson was still downbeat last night and batted away suggestions that this win might be a catalyst for further improvement.
"I don't know what catalysts are," he said. "I don't want to say things are hunky-dory. The expectations on us are greater than we are capable of achieving immediately and if we're not the Liverpool of yore, we'll work hard to get there."
Has this club deteriorated to such an extent? It didn't seem that way when they created at least ten chances in the first half – the stellar performance of Blackburn keeper Paul Robinwould have had Fabio Capello lamenting his international retirement.
But when Liverpool reached the interval still deadlocked, Meireles and Rodriguez having spurned the best opportunities, it appeared Hodgson was cursed. That sense deepened when the goal which his side so richly deserved – Sotirios Kyrgiakos powering in a header from Gerrard's corner – was cancelled out in a comedy of errors. As if the sight of substitute Benjani Mwaruwari haring around Paul Konchesky to cross was not bad enough for Hodgson, El-Hadji Diouf's shot through Jamie Carragher's legs was cleared off the line back by Konchesky – straight into Carragher and back across the goalline. It was a damning snapshot of Hodgson's defence this season.
Reina's reaction was telling, though, as he raced out of goal clutching the ball and his team-mates shared the urgency. Joe Cole's contribution to the match was still not enough to suggest that the fields of Anfield Road are delivering him any salvation but his clipped ball minutes later for Torres, who sprang away from the central defenders to side-foot home, was the match's most decisive one.
Sam Allardyce justifiably mourned the absence of the suspended Chris Samba. "When I see the second goal – Torres free six yards out for a little side-footer and none of our players near him at all – it's the reason why I say I'm missing players," he said.
Don't expect any less gloom from the Liverpool manager, though. Three points are needed at Bolton next Sunday to avoid the prospect of facing Chelsea while still rooted in the bottom three, but Hodgson has not won any of his last 22 away games, dating back to his time in charge of Fulham.
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"an internet poll of Liverpool fans before this game revealed 65 per cent actually wanted Blackburn to win, in the hope of putting them and their manager out of his misery."
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fucking hell, which site was that?!
"an internet poll of Liverpool fans before this game revealed 65 per cent actually wanted Blackburn to win, in the hope of putting them and their manager out of his misery."
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fucking hell, which site was that?!
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[quote author=refugee link=topic=42120.msg1205320#msg1205320 date=1287999302]
"an internet poll of Liverpool fans before this game revealed 65 per cent actually wanted Blackburn to win, in the hope of putting them and their manager out of his misery."
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fucking hell, which site was that?!
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It doesn't say, but it could be any of them.
[quote author=refugee link=topic=42120.msg1205320#msg1205320 date=1287999302]
"an internet poll of Liverpool fans before this game revealed 65 per cent actually wanted Blackburn to win, in the hope of putting them and their manager out of his misery."
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fucking hell, which site was that?!
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It doesn't say, but it could be any of them.
that is a made up poll if ever I heard. I've been on RAWK and people who wanted liverpool to lose were shouted down by the majority of people on the forum.
the people that want liverpool to lose can't people think that currently we as a team can afford to fling points away even if the ultimate end is to rid the club of the hapless roy hodgson.
I wont be a hyprocrite though, had liverpool have lost I would have shrugged and gone 'meh' at least that pushes hodgson closer to the exit. but WANT them to lose?! naw...
I wont be a hyprocrite though, had liverpool have lost I would have shrugged and gone 'meh' at least that pushes hodgson closer to the exit. but WANT them to lose?! naw...
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[quote author=refugee link=topic=42120.msg1205320#msg1205320 date=1287999302]
"an internet poll of Liverpool fans before this game revealed 65 per cent actually wanted Blackburn to win, in the hope of putting them and their manager out of his misery."
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fucking hell, which site was that?!
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Are you surprised the actually number was so low?
[quote author=refugee link=topic=42120.msg1205320#msg1205320 date=1287999302]
"an internet poll of Liverpool fans before this game revealed 65 per cent actually wanted Blackburn to win, in the hope of putting them and their manager out of his misery."
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fucking hell, which site was that?!
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Are you surprised the actually number was so low?
Giving Kenny the responsibility in scouting player for the january window is a very clear picture of how NESV think regarding Roys future. Roy is now a coach and not a manager.
He'll be out on his arse when everything is ready. The board etc.
We should under no circumstances do a hasty appointment re manager. We need to find the right one.
He'll be out on his arse when everything is ready. The board etc.
We should under no circumstances do a hasty appointment re manager. We need to find the right one.
Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson believes his team are making slow but steady progress on the road to recovery after scoring a morale-boosting win over Blackburn.
Hodgson has faced question marks over his future after the English giants slumped to their worst start to the season for 57 years, which has left them in the relegation zone even after Sunday's 2-1 victory over Rovers.
But the former Fulham boss is refusing to get carried away by this weekend's win over fellow strugglers Blackburn, even if he does believe Liverpool are showing signs of improvement.
"I'd be lying if I said it felt like a turning point. That would be a facile thing to say," Hodgson said. "I've got faith in the team and the way we played in several of the games. We were worse at the beginning but we have got better."
Hodgson said he had been encouraged by statistics from Liverpool's 2-0 defeat in the Merseyside derby to Everton, which indicated the team were on the right track.
"I saw the statistics the other day from the Everton game and I've never in my Premier League career seen statistics as positive as they were in terms of passing, accuracy and tempo of passing, number of shots and crosses," he said.
"Those statistics hearten you because you know you are not playing badly but they don't get you any points. We had the same level of passing and intensity against Blackburn but we were much more incisive, getting behind them down the flanks more.
"It was the right sort of performance; we've got to give another 29 like that and if we can do that then we won't go too far wrong."
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1323871.html?cid=rssfeed&att=
I warm up to him by a little bit and he goes and makes a statement like that.
Hodgson has faced question marks over his future after the English giants slumped to their worst start to the season for 57 years, which has left them in the relegation zone even after Sunday's 2-1 victory over Rovers.
But the former Fulham boss is refusing to get carried away by this weekend's win over fellow strugglers Blackburn, even if he does believe Liverpool are showing signs of improvement.
"I'd be lying if I said it felt like a turning point. That would be a facile thing to say," Hodgson said. "I've got faith in the team and the way we played in several of the games. We were worse at the beginning but we have got better."
Hodgson said he had been encouraged by statistics from Liverpool's 2-0 defeat in the Merseyside derby to Everton, which indicated the team were on the right track.
"I saw the statistics the other day from the Everton game and I've never in my Premier League career seen statistics as positive as they were in terms of passing, accuracy and tempo of passing, number of shots and crosses," he said.
"Those statistics hearten you because you know you are not playing badly but they don't get you any points. We had the same level of passing and intensity against Blackburn but we were much more incisive, getting behind them down the flanks more.
"It was the right sort of performance; we've got to give another 29 like that and if we can do that then we won't go too far wrong."
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1323871.html?cid=rssfeed&att=
I warm up to him by a little bit and he goes and makes a statement like that.
Roy on transfers:
“I want to make sure the money, whatever amount I am given, is spent wisely. That’s so that at the start of the new season I have a new squad who I believe can give it a good go. We are trying to scout players of the highest level in the hope we can afford them.â€
“I want to make sure the money, whatever amount I am given, is spent wisely. That’s so that at the start of the new season I have a new squad who I believe can give it a good go. We are trying to scout players of the highest level in the hope we can afford them.â€
If we'd lost then yes I'd be thinking the silver lining of the defeat is Roy on his way... But on the flip side if we win and keep Roy, fuck it we're winning! if he keeps winning then i'll settle for keeping Roy. Simple as.
Roy needs to go, but we've lost against one (so called) shit side in the league, something Rafa was capable of every season too.
I couldn't give a shit about what's going on and what happens, the main thing is I want us to keep winning, I couldn't care less about how that reflects on the managerial situation and how much bearing it has on Roy's stay. Call me old fashioned like but all I give a shit about is that the first XI go out and win each week, if that starts happening the rest is just insignificant.
I could just be one of these posters who was hoping we'd get beat before the Blackpool game, because it would mean that Roy would go, well we got beat and it didn't happen. Well done.
I couldn't give a shit about what's going on and what happens, the main thing is I want us to keep winning, I couldn't care less about how that reflects on the managerial situation and how much bearing it has on Roy's stay. Call me old fashioned like but all I give a shit about is that the first XI go out and win each week, if that starts happening the rest is just insignificant.
I could just be one of these posters who was hoping we'd get beat before the Blackpool game, because it would mean that Roy would go, well we got beat and it didn't happen. Well done.
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Roy needs to go, but we've lost against one (so called) shit side in the league, something Rafa was capable of every season too.
I couldn't give a shit about what's going on and what happens, the main thing is I want us to keep winning, I couldn't care less about how that reflects on the managerial situation and how much bearing it has on Roy's stay. Call me old fashioned like but all I give a shit about is that the first XI go out and win each week, if that starts happening the rest is just insignificant.
I could just be one of these posters who was hoping we'd get beat before the Blackpool game, because it would mean that Roy would go, well we got beat and it didn't happen. Well done.
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Its not the loss to 'one shit side', sure Rafa was able to field a team that would do the same Fulham Pompey just to name 2, but Rafa's teams 99% of the time, looked like they was trying, created chances and was organized.
Roy teams looked lost, disjointed, shackled, and up until the week end, like they didn't care.
Did the players have a mini revolt and say 'Fuck his tactics, lets play like a Rafa side'?
I hope so, because if he's lost the team now, its days before he's lost the job
Roy needs to go, but we've lost against one (so called) shit side in the league, something Rafa was capable of every season too.
I couldn't give a shit about what's going on and what happens, the main thing is I want us to keep winning, I couldn't care less about how that reflects on the managerial situation and how much bearing it has on Roy's stay. Call me old fashioned like but all I give a shit about is that the first XI go out and win each week, if that starts happening the rest is just insignificant.
I could just be one of these posters who was hoping we'd get beat before the Blackpool game, because it would mean that Roy would go, well we got beat and it didn't happen. Well done.
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Its not the loss to 'one shit side', sure Rafa was able to field a team that would do the same Fulham Pompey just to name 2, but Rafa's teams 99% of the time, looked like they was trying, created chances and was organized.
Roy teams looked lost, disjointed, shackled, and up until the week end, like they didn't care.
Did the players have a mini revolt and say 'Fuck his tactics, lets play like a Rafa side'?
I hope so, because if he's lost the team now, its days before he's lost the job
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Roy on transfers:
“I want to make sure the money, whatever amount I am given, is spent wisely. That’s so that at the start of the new season I have a new squad who I believe can give it a good go. We are trying to scout players of the highest level in the hope we can afford them.â€
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no joke, that actually made me feel fucking sick reading that.
Roy on transfers:
“I want to make sure the money, whatever amount I am given, is spent wisely. That’s so that at the start of the new season I have a new squad who I believe can give it a good go. We are trying to scout players of the highest level in the hope we can afford them.â€
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no joke, that actually made me feel fucking sick reading that.
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