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Boxing please

MMA fighters are obviously better 'fighters', there's really no debate about that. So not sure why you'd mention that.

I'm amused by the notion that people are so sure he's going to wreck Floyd in a boxing match. It's certainly possible. He has significant advantages in size, power and age going for him, which makes it perhaps interesting. But despite that, how are people so convinced that an MMA fighter will transition to boxing so easily?

I completely disagree that boxing is just fighting. They're utterly different sports from whatever little I know.

Floyd has boxed since he was like 5 years old. His footwork, handspeed and defence are all muscle memory.

Conor is a brawler with a devastating left hand, but he fights people in an open cage, without many restrictions or rules. He uses a combination of leg kicks, flying knees, roundhouse kicks, and grapples to unbalance opponents and get his strikes off. And even when he does strike, he often relies on blows on top of the head to finish his opponent off. And people think that he'll just come and land a single punch KO on Floyd?

How will he drop Floyd's guard without his leg kicks, flying knees and grapples? How will he create space and angles in a smaller ring? How will he avoid Mayweather's repeated jabs to his face? How will he avoid getting socked with power shots when he winds up for those really slow looking upper cuts? And more than anything, how the hell will he have the stamina to last 12 rounds against Floyd when he has stamina issues in the MMA?
 
He won't. Mayweather will let him tire himself out and then finish him, if he can be bothered. Otherwise he'll just outpoint him by miles.
 
MMA fighters are obviously better 'fighters', there's really no debate about that. So not sure why you'd mention that.

I'm amused by the notion that people are so sure he's going to wreck Floyd in a boxing match. It's certainly possible. He has significant advantages in size, power and age going for him, which makes it perhaps interesting. But despite that, how are people so convinced that an MMA fighter will transition to boxing so easily?

I completely disagree that boxing is just fighting. They're utterly different sports from whatever little I know.

Floyd has boxed since he was like 5 years old. His footwork, handspeed and defence are all muscle memory.

Conor is a brawler with a devastating left hand, but he fights people in an open cage, without many restrictions or rules. He uses a combination of leg kicks, flying knees, roundhouse kicks, and grapples to unbalance opponents and get his strikes off. And even when he does strike, he often relies on blows on top of the head to finish his opponent off. And people think that he'll just come and land a single punch KO on Floyd?

How will he drop Floyd's guard without his leg kicks, flying knees and grapples? How will he create space and angles in a smaller ring? How will he avoid Mayweather's repeated jabs to his face? How will he avoid getting socked with power shots when he winds up for those really slow looking upper cuts? And more than anything, how the hell will he have the stamina to last 12 rounds against Floyd when he has stamina issues in the MMA?

I don't think there's anyone out there apart from the most hardened nuthuggers that think Conor wins this, the odds are massively stacked against him (although 100mill softens the blow). But, regards to conors fighting style, he's a striker in mma, he very very rarely if ever tries to take someone down, and isn't well known for kicking either - if he takes someone out, it's usually with his hands.
I think Mayweather dances round him all day long and blitzes him with little stinging shots, but I'm also convinced that conor will land a shot on him at some point, I'm not sure where, but if it's on his chin, then I can't see how he doesn't fluke a goodnight.
I'd be absolutely gobsmacked if this went 12 rounds, conor will be exhausted halfway.
I can't stand either of the little pricks so it's a lose/lose win/win for me.
 
3 minutes of boxing isn't as exhausting as 5 minutes of fighting. Having to throw kicks, grapple, wrestling on the ground, that's punishing. Conor will have far more stamina than Floyd. The guy is 40 years old, and he only made it through rounds during his prime by holding and taking deep breaths to recover. When he's holding McGregor, rest is the last thing he's going to get. He'll be getting twisted, elbowed, knees digging into his legs, head butts, everything.
 
How will he drop Floyd's guard without his leg kicks, flying knees and grapples?

There are more subtle fighting techniques than spinning roundhouse kicks. He can step on his foot, trap him, then ram his knee into Mayweather's leg. The referee won't even see it happen, Mayweather will lose his balance, the left will land. What's the ref going to do? He'll do nothing, he'll do nothing.
 
3 minutes of boxing isn't as exhausting as 5 minutes of fighting. Having to throw kicks, grapple, wrestling on the ground, that's punishing. Conor will have far more stamina than Floyd. The guy is 40 years old, and he only made it through rounds during his prime by holding and taking deep breaths to recover. When he's holding McGregor, rest is the last thing he's going to get. He'll be getting twisted, elbowed, knees digging into his legs, head butts, everything.

It's not quite as cut and dried as that. A full 12 rounds of boxing will take McGregor to 36 minutes, a full 5 rounds in the UFC will take him to 25 minutes - and he's only ever done that once in the rematch with Diaz. He also often looks pretty gassed in his 2 and 3 rounders.

But away from that, boxing and MMA require different types of stamina and exert different types of muscle fatigue - in boxing, fatigue takes away virtually all of your weapons providing your opponent can stay outside of a clinch.

If McGregor was to win, he'd have to finish it early (probably inside 8).
 
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Floyd Mayweather to use earnings from Conor McGregor fight to pay overdue taxes
Undefeated boxer Floyd Mayweather goes by the nickname "Money" but a lack of cash prompted him to file an appeal with the IRS (Internal Revenue Service) regarding overdue taxes. Mayweather filed a tax court petition on July 5, asking the IRS to grant him a reprieve and allow him to pay his taxes after he is paid for next month's bout vs. Mixed martial arts star Conor McGregor.

The 40-year-old Mayweather is coming out of retirement to face McGregor on Aug. 26 that could net the boxer a nine-figure payday. The IRS wants Mayweather (49-0) to pay his taxes for 2015. Mayweather has earned an estimated $700 million in his career, Forbes magazine reported, including a staggering $220 million from his much-hyped fight against Manny Pacquiao in May 2015. "Although the taxpayer has substantial assets, those assets are restricted and primarily illiquid," the petition by Mayweather said in a filing posting on Law360.com. "The taxpayer has a significant liquidity event scheduled in about 60 days from which he intends to pay the balance of the 2015 tax liability due and outstanding." According to the IRS website, the penalty for failure to pay taxes is typically 0.5 percent of owed taxes for each month.
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Hahhahaha so floyd's just another broke bum.
 
The press conference was a a bit of a joke. Conor wasn't even warmed up and wasn't allowed to heckle or give mayweather no shit, and mayweather kept saying something random like 'who work' then kept walking off the mike, then popping back to saying either 'who work' or something else pointless. I suspect Conor is going to be tearing him a new one over the next few weeks.
 
He looked far smaller than I expected standing next to McGregor. One of them needs to bulk up or the other hasn't really taken the weight cut seriously yet. Otherwise something isn't right, it wouldn't be a shock if the fight panned out like Khan v Canelo. It's no trivial height/reach advantage, McGregor looks like a fucking animal standing over a small, thin and weak Mayweather.
 
I think he's only ever fought at 154 once that I can remember, the de la hoya fight. Conor will be fairly comfortable at the weight come fight night, but, he's not a 155'r in the UFC either, I suspect he walks around near that weight, but after a camp is much less. I suspect Mayweather called it at 154 to further cripple Conor's endurance, but like you said, he's going to come in big and strong (for about 3-5 rounds anyway).
 


I know some people cream themselves over this kinda trash talk but apart from being incredibly disrespectful it's pointless, ridiculous and crass.
 
A couple of points on that Atlas. I can't stand McGregor, but I thought that part of this presser was quite hilarious personally, and actually factual. Also, mayweather was absolutely just as bad in his segment, so they were as bad as each other.
Both of these dickheads are well known for their pre-fight trash talking, probably only Tyson Fury up there with them for that. I'd rather see this stupid trash talking than the pretend feud's and pretend bad blood we keep seeing with the boxing non-stop, where absolute junk fighters are trying to talk up a payday.
 
I know some people cream themselves over this kinda trash talk but apart from being incredibly disrespectful it's pointless, ridiculous and crass.

That was the best part lol. I doubt Floyd cares about his soul, he'd sell it for money in a heartbeat. That's all that happened, his soul being damaged in front of thousands of people is a price he'd happily pay in exchange for the additional hype and excess revenues being generated.
 
I agree both are up there in terms of trash talking so it shouldn't surprise but it's lame that we've got this far. People are so excited and wowed cos conor has Fuck you stitched on his suit, what an idiot and idiots that think that's well cool.
 
Last night's presser was a bit boring, they both came out dancing like drunk dads the twats. Then the abuse from mayweather was regurgitated from his last 2, nothing new, and Conor didn't really do or say anything. I presume they're both saving their best abuse for the last one.
 
With the exception of saying 'fuck you, do something then' to the poor snowflakes in the crowd who were offended by his fur coat.
 
Now, but the cunts have disabled UK streams and after yesterday's shit show its not worth the time of setting up the VPN.
 
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Brutal stuff. It's as if they gave up (which is probably what happened).

I'm watching the ppv with about 20 other people, so will spend about a fiver, but I can't fathom how they're going to break the projected 5 million buys mark.

They will though, and I'll be once again wondering how reality is indeed reality.
 
As for the press conference, it was utterly shit. Like a badly written WWE act. At least if it were WWE there'd have been some entertainment, Mayweather had zero fucking ideas what to say so spent most of it saying 'woop' 'woop' & saying mcgregor taps out over & over.

Mcgregor was barely any better, slapping him on the back of the head & calling his security staff "juice head monkeys", which considering they're almost all black, is beyond stupid. I noticed mayweather attempted to defuse that by calling mcgregor & his staff gorillas in return shortly after.

I've no idea why I'm planning to stay up until 6am to watch this, but I am anyway. In the slim, almost imperceptibly tiny hope that mcgregor might just catch him with dig & knock him out. I'll be buying plenty drugs to help me stay awake though, I'll need it as mayweather bores the world & mcgregor to death.
 
It simply needed Mayweather to flap his gums and respond. Sitting there looking at his phone whilst having the piss taken out of him was a selfish attempt to protect his ego from getting burned alive. That is what killed the mood, it looked like McGregor was doing a comedy routine instead of having an argument with Floyd. Comedy doesn't sell fights or convey animosity. Mayweather totally fucked that up and killed the interest of a lot of casual fans.
 
No chance I'll be staying awake for the freak show.

I'll be doing an all nighter for the proper fight on September 16th.

Tonight is Eubank v Arbraham. It's on ITV PPV. I think Abraham will try to frustrate Eubank and throw a few combos at the end of each round and aim for points victory. But Eubank will be too mobile for him throw enough earlier in the rounds and win 8 rounds to 4.
 
The last Eubank fight was free using virgin cs, could be again this evening, they didn't encrypt the feed cos theoretically only their new tivo boxes can tune into it.

Yeah, I'll be staying up to watch the GGG Alvarez fight for sure.
 
I no longer live in a virgin media area. Annoys the hell out of me because sky is shite and bt no better.
 
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