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Boxing please

Some of the greatest boxers of the last 15 years couldn't lay a punch on Mayweather. How the fuck is someone from a different sport going to be able to?

This whole charade depends on how long Mayweather is being contractually obliged to 'toy with him'. It'll only go 3-4 rounds because the contract's will dictate it so.
 
I wonder if at any point in their discussions, the idea of Floyd taking a dive came up.

It would guarantee a second, and third fight after Mayweather wins the rematch.

That's what I'd do anyway, but I'm a greedy bollocks.

50-0 looks such better than 51-1 regardless of the money on the line.
 
Smith fight about to start. I think he'll lose on points.

I won't be awake for ward v Kovalev. I think kovalev will win in points and a 3rd fight will be on the cards.
 
Smith easily outpointed tonight. Again a mixture of not being talented enough and Joe Gallaghers tactics being piss poor.
 
I didn't realise you could score a tko with a punch after the bell or low blow into the nuts. McGregor's chances have gone up a bit.
 
Wtf was that? Two times Kovalev has been completely ripped off.

It shouldn't have even a stoppage despite the low blow.
 


I've not seen much of Van Heerden but Mcgregor doesn't get anywhere near him in this spar while Van Heerden lands more than couple.
 
The footage has been doing the rounds for a while, and I don't think McGregor is that fussed about it for a couple of reasons. 1) He wants mayweather to not bother training and think he's in for an easy fight, and 2) mayweathers 1 shot power is weak as fuck, so he's not bothered about getting tagged.
McGregor's entire gameplan will revolve around getting one, single, clean, solid, shot off on mayweathers chin. That's all. That one thing. I don't think he's that fussed if he gets hit 100 times off glass hands mayweather, as he's lightening fast with no power. The question is, if by some fluke that single shot does land - what happens to mayweather? Can he take it?
 
He's taken big shots before without getting knocked out, but his reflexes have always bailed him out. If he has slowed with age and retirement, and McGregor gets away with a few dirty shots and twisting of a few limbs whilst they're holding, that will take a cumulative toll on the old man and make him appear like he's been beat the fuck up whilst the referee raises his arm at the end. A moral victory it would be.
 
McGregor should get knocked out if I know anything about boxing.

I've seen as many videos as I can of him sparring and training. His hands look slow as fuck, and he seems to have virtually zero defence. Any half decent boxer should be able to land at him at will. Mayweather doesn't have much power, but I'll be amazed if he can't pepper him with like multiple power shots per round.

McGregor may have the power, but it means absolutely fuck all when you don't know how to use it.
 
McGregor should get knocked out if I know anything about boxing.

I've seen as many videos as I can of him sparring and training. His hands look slow as fuck, and he seems to have virtually zero defence. Any half decent boxer should be able to land at him at will. Mayweather doesn't have much power, but I'll be amazed if he can't pepper him with like multiple power shots per round.

McGregor may have the power, but it means absolutely fuck all when you don't know how to use it.

He does know how to use it, you're underestimating that he's a very good fighter. The actual boxing skills McGregor lacks have only evolved and developed the way they have in order to protect boxers from defeat, to keep their chin safe so they don't get knocked out, to keep their head moving lest they get punched and lose rounds, to wrong foot their opponent to allow them to land their own punches. It's a tactical battle. But there's nothing in the rules of boxing that force you to engage in the usual tactical battle. In this case it's definitely not going to be like that, so you need to get the image of a boxing match out of your mind. McGregor won't give a fuck about winning rounds or being knocked out, so why would he stand and move like a boxer? He'll approach it as a straight-up fist fight, use his MMA stance, not make unnecessary movements, and throw the same sort of punches that he does in the octagon. Mayweather may well dig in and win the rounds, but when you look at his face at the end of the fight you'll find that it's been fucked up bad.
 
I agree with that @dantes, apart from in the very slim chance that the little eejit knocks the dickhead out early doors and there's not a mark on him - ala the Aldo fight.
 
I think you're underestimating the power that 10 oz gloves bring. In a bare fisted fight, you're right. Conor would just adopt a street fighting stance, and try and land a concussive punch without any worry that Floyd could hurt him. My understanding is that with 10 oz gloves, even a feather fisted cunt like Paulie Malignaggi can generate decent power. Floyd isn't a big puncher by any means, but if he's landing 30-40 punches a round with gloves on somebody's face, that face is going to get marked up bad.

I really don't know if Floyd will do that, cause he may decide to just fight on the outside and run. But if he actually focuses on knocking out McGregor, I'm pretty sure he could do that.
 
I think you're underestimating the power that 10 oz gloves bring. In a bare fisted fight, you're right. Conor would just adopt a street fighting stance, and try and land a concussive punch without any worry that Floyd could hurt him. My understanding is that with 10 oz gloves, even a feather fisted cunt like Paulie Malignaggi can generate decent power. Floyd isn't a big puncher by any means, but if he's landing 30-40 punches a round with gloves on somebody's face, that face is going to get marked up bad.

I really don't know if Floyd will do that, cause he may decide to just fight on the outside and run. But if he actually focuses on knocking out McGregor, I'm pretty sure he could do that.

You underestimate the laws of physics. The greater mass in the glove would generate more power all things being equal, but it slows the speed down when you have heavy gloves, and the greater surface area of that glove reduces the psi impact upon the chin. So it's the opposite, which is why Floyd chose those gloves because he doesn't want to get knocked out himself. However, the heavier gloves still tear through skin because the punch will drag across the face for a longer period of time than the more snappy type of impact of MMA gloves. Floyd is an idiot in that respect, he should have opted for smaller gloves to protect his face getting fucked up, because he'll never ever get hit on the chin by McGregor. As it is, he still won't get hit on the chin, but his head, eyes and nose are all up for being split open.
 
The smaller the gloves, the more damage done to the opponent (and your hands). There's no way Flloyd would have gone near smaller gloves as there's more risk of his ko, and he's had a history of hand issues/breaks.
 
It's an interesting fight, but I hope to God that the WBC don't follow through on their current thinking that they may put a belt up for it! It shouldn't even count towards professional records in my opinion.


The sad thing is, there's no real winner in this fight - aside from bank balances. A Mayweather win is the pound-for-pound best vs a guy who isn't in the sport, a McGregor win and it wont be long before Floyd is labelled as an over-the-hill boxer coming out of retirement.

I don't actually think that the fight is going to be quite as lopsided as some people think, after his second 'retirement' in 2008 he's basically hand-picked his opponents to push himself out to 49-0 - especially during that last 6-fight deal! We basically had seven years of him ticking over. The only reason he's taken this fight is because he sees it as an easy 50-0, but I think McGregor might surprise him a few times as Floyd isn't the same fighter he once was. McGregor will catch him clean at some point in the fight and he hits hard, Mayweather's reaction will tell us everything.

I'm still going for a Mayweather win though.

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It's a conversation only because we know Floyd will refuse to engage. People think McGregor has a chance because they know Floyd won't KO him. Any other decent boxer in the 154 division would knock McGregor out. Put him up against Charlo or Andrade or even Spence, and they'd knock him out within 3 rounds. Have you seen McGregor's boxing training videos? They're embarrassing.

Floyd being the dickhead he is will touch and move, and try and rack up points, which will frankly be an embarrassment for boxing.

And I don't think McGregor will land on Mayweather at all. If Mayweather treats this as a serious boxing match (which he will, given his 0 is on the line), it'll be 12 rounds of boxing on the outside, and moving. Nobody lands on Mayweather when he does that.

The only way McGregor lands if Floyd treats this as some sort of joke, and puts his guard down or something.
 
It's a conversation only because we know Floyd will refuse to engage. People think McGregor has a chance because they know Floyd won't KO him. Any other decent boxer in the 154 division would knock McGregor out. Put him up against Charlo or Andrade or even Spence, and they'd knock him out within 3 rounds. Have you seen McGregor's boxing training videos? They're embarrassing.

Floyd being the dickhead he is will touch and move, and try and rack up points, which will frankly be an embarrassment for boxing.

And I don't think McGregor will land on Mayweather at all. If Mayweather treats this as a serious boxing match (which he will, given his 0 is on the line), it'll be 12 rounds of boxing on the outside, and moving. Nobody lands on Mayweather when he does that.

The only way McGregor lands if Floyd treats this as some sort of joke, and puts his guard down or something.

McGregor keeps his hands very low, and he fires from all angles. Stylistically he's a counter-puncher but he's also very aggressive with it. McGregor actually closes the distance very well and this is while having to worry about kicks, knees, elbows and takedowns - a problem he won't have against Mayweather. He's also a natural southpaw (something Mayweather has struggled with at times in the past) and frequently switch-hits - i.e. he's unpredictable.

I agree, Mayweather will be on his bike all 12 rounds, but if he gets sucked in by McGregor's low hands then he will get tagged and if you watch any of his UFC fights he is very accurate with his striking. None of that adds up to a McGregor win mind, but I'm less convinced of an easy night for Floyd then I was a year ago.
 
You're not the only one.

[article]
Conor McGregor sparring partner: ‘He lifted me off my feet with his right hand’

DUBLIN — Conor McGregor is set to finish preparation for his blockbuster marquee with Floyd Mayweather in Las Vegas on Aug. 26, but the Irishman’s camp is already in full swing here in the Irish capital. McGregor has been training in a brand-new boxing facility next to SBG Concorde on Dublin’s Naas Road, best recognized for the gargantuan mural of him landing his patented left cross on the pound-for-pound great, which has been emblazoned on the gym’s wall.

Since the fight’s official fight announcement earlier this month, McGregor has put together a team of sparring partners. Pro boxer (22-21-3) and former MMA fighter (9-2- 0) Dashon Johnson has previously helped Manny Pacquiao prepare for Mayweather, which made him an obvious addition to the camp. Irish boxing pro (5-2) Jay Byrne has also been drafted in to trade leather with “The Notorious.”

Most recently commonwealth youth silver medalist Tiernan Bradley was brought into the camp after being recommended by Conor Wallace, the Northern Irish amateur boxer who was called upon to help McGregor prepare for his rematch with Nate Diaz. Wallace’s recommendation was based on Bradley’s ability to replicate the Mayweather style and the 20-year-old is confident he can offer McGregor looks that will ready him for the “Money” man in two months time.

“People laugh when they hear me saying I can replicate Mayweather,” Bradley told MMA Fighting. “I guess nobody can move like Floyd, but I’ve been studying everything about the guy for the last 13 years. “I know what way he moves and I know how he moves into his punches. I know how he reacts to getting hit. I feel like I’m able to bring that in to help Conor as he prepares for this fight. “When I’m competing, I don’t necessarily use Mayweather’s style, but I definitely use some of his tools. The step-back right hand and check left hook are two techniques I use a lot. And of course, I use some of his defensive tactics to stop me getting hit.”

McGregor’s boxing ability is a massive unknown quantity heading into the Mayweather clash. Although he previously trained as an amateur at Crumlin Boxing Gym, 17-year- old McGregor left the sport to pursue MMA after collecting some novice titles in the ring. Bradley claims that he has never seen someone use the same approach as the MMA star in the squared circle. “Conor is a very good boxer,” Bradley said. He doesn’t move like any other boxer. He’s powerful, fast and light on his feet ... He’s very good at getting in and out and connecting. He’s so quick on his feet it’s very hard to judge the distance with him. “He’s so fast and unpredictable — that’s a very dangerous combination. I don’t think Mayweather has ever boxed anyone like that.”

He added: “It’s very different to any style I’ve seen over the years. He has this strange style and he can keep going at a serious pace for 12 rounds. He’s on his toes and he’s constantly keeping you guessing. “My biggest takeaway from the rounds was the pace that we fought at and that he seemed unbreakable. I found it very hard to figure him out.” McGregor’s left hand has brought the majority of his MMA bouts to a close, but there are questions about whether his stopping power will translate to boxing. Bradley has no such worries having been lifted off his feet from McGregor’s weaker hand. The UFC lightweight later posted a picture of the shot on his Instagram account. “I’ve got a black eye at the moment and I got that from him when he was wearing 16-ounce gloves,” Bradley said.

“I don’t know if you’ve seen the photo that he uploaded onto his Instagram after our session. People are talking about his left hand and whether the power will be there with 10-ounce gloves — he lifted me off my feet with a right uppercut in 16 (ounce gloves)! “That shot came out of nowhere. It was so fast and powerful. I can tell you now that those kinds of shots would drop boxers, and that was his right hand. He will definitely keep his stopping power with 10-ounce gloves on.”

Bradley’s first interaction with McGregor came just prior to their sparring session. The young boxer reported that the UFC lightweight champion was “oozing” confidence in and out of the ring. “I was getting ready to spar when he came into the gym,” Bradley said. “I thought he would go upstairs to get ready himself, but he came straight over to me and shook my hand and asked me was I ready for sparring. “He didn’t say anything specifically about the fight, but you get an unreal sense of confidence from that guy. This was the first time I met him. The way he walks, the way he talks, you can’t help but notice his self belief. It just oozes out of him. “When you’re sparring him that same confidence is with him. He has a whole team behind him giving him advice and supporting him. There’s a great mood in the camp.”

The sporting merit of a contest between the greatest boxer of his generation and a man who has never contested a professional bout has been argued ever since Mayweather versus McGregor was announced. Yet, after his sparring session with “The Notorious,” Bradley is adamant that Mayweather will have his hands full Aug. 26. “Looking at Conor yesterday,” he said, “I know he’ll give Floyd a hard fight. This will not be a walkover. I really think whoever puts more into their camp will win it. I know that Conor is putting in the work and that his confidence is through the roof. He’s going to be ready when fight night comes around.”
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Hahaha nice, but at the end of the day Floyd is spending his time punching a small balloon, and McGregor is punching a heavy bag. That's not going to turn out so good for Mayweather when the bell rings and they start punching each other. Also the assumption that he'll of course win on points because he's going to outbox McGregor, kind of hit a little bit of a snag in Australia. If the judges really are that blind/dirty these days, it's probably worth a punt because McGregor is never getting knocked out.
 
Conor looks better on the bags for me, but all of his sparring partners are bums and hardly much more than amateurs. Will b interesting who he picks up to spar with when he hits Vegas shortly
 
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Apparently, he's getting Paulie Malignaggi to spar him.

If he is, that's a considerable step up from his current partners, but Malignaggi is still shit as a pro, nowhere near the level that he's going to be facing. Saying that, I'm not sure who he could spar with that's any good, would be willing to spar, and could replicate mayweathers style.
 
He approached Freddie Roach to train him a while ago, but Roach told him he'd need at least 3 years to get him ready for Mayweather.
 
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