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I'd enjoy the fact that Dante and his ilk are wasting all their time tilting at windmills, and I'd certainly enjoy Trump crying himself to sleep, but this is a continuing trend of Trump facilitating the politicization of everything. It's not that funny when it increases political sectarianism and erodes democracy. What he is doing is dangerous, and will come into play in future. Trump isn't dangerous, its who he is paving the way for.

Not even the hicks buying into the gospel of prosperity to pay off campaign debt is that funny, it's just sad.

Ok, the hair dye thing sure. And the landscaping.
 
I just watched CNN for half an hour, it helped me to make sense of your opinions about this whole thing. Damn I thought financial news channels were laughable garbage, but good lord that was pure steaming fake news propaganda. Do people out there actually consider it news? Like do they place CNN as a more credible source of information than FOX?
 
She was one of the cases that were used as an example in national media.
From the Trump campaign and Tucker Carlson.

You do realise Fox News successfully defended a lawsuit on the basis that no sane person could take Tucker Carlson seriously
 
I just watched CNN for half an hour, it helped me to make sense of your opinions about this whole thing. Damn I thought financial news channels were laughable garbage, but good lord that was pure steaming fake news propaganda. Do people out there actually consider it news? Like do they place CNN as a more credible source of information than FOX?

Well I have a relative who works for CNN, she produced this brilliant series of thematic articles that won awards and changed lives.

She asked CNN to fund it before undertaking it, but they refused. Then the awards rolled in and she sought funding from them to continue it in light of its success. They refused.

So a charity is now funding real news instead.
 
And James Clapper works for CNN. The man who lied under oath to the US Senate and denied that there was a widespread secret surveillance programme.

And he pushes the Russian interference angle at every opportunity. And gobshites lap it up
 
I just watched CNN for half an hour, it helped me to make sense of your opinions about this whole thing. Damn I thought financial news channels were laughable garbage, but good lord that was pure steaming fake news propaganda. Do people out there actually consider it news? Like do they place CNN as a more credible source of information than FOX?

I don't watch tv hardly at all, and I certainly don't watch cable news.

CNN is like it is because fox was so successful. Because CNN is designed to be the homer report for democrats, and the country is SO far to the right, Fox is way more extreme and irresponsible than CNN is, but they are both absolute trash and bad for public discourse. Fox bears a significant amount of responsibility for the shit state that the USA is in.
 
So now that example has been disproven, do you think it's safe to extrapolate to all other examples and conclude there was no fraud?
I think what is becoming safer and safer to assume is that the vast majority of the affidavits and indeed the Trumped up 'fraud cases', nationwide, are lies, wishful thinking and innuendo from delusional Trumpists or dangerous anti-democracy conspiracy theorists such as Giuliani and Graham.
 
So... Georgia’s hand recount of ballots support the automated count result - and Biden is confirmed as winner.

Well.... no one saw that coming!!!!
 
We're reaching the endgame as Trump's pathetic, desperate, efforts are destined to fail.

Federal law says state house legislators have the power to designate electors if the state has "failed to make a choice".
This would appear a long shot as it is very hard to prove, no evidence of electoral fraud has been shown and to potentially disenfranchise millions of voters would spark national uproar (even though Trrump wouldn't give a shit).

Reuters quoted one source familiar with the Trump strategy as saying it was now a "more targeted approach towards getting the legislators engaged". But even one of the Michigan lawmakers going to the White House (to attend the meeting Trump has called), Mike Shirkey, said earlier this week that the legislature appointing electors was "not going to happen".
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Legal challenges have failed everywhere (because they totally lacked merit and proof of fraud ... well actually proof of anything bar conspiracy theories not facts) :

Georgia
On Thursday, Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said the state's now concluded hand audit of ballots had not altered Mr Biden's victory in the state and Georgia said its recount had confirmed Mr Biden's victory in the state.
Earlier, Republicans lost their final lawsuit in Georgia as a court rejected their effort to block the results' certification, which is due to happen on Friday. Mr Biden's lead was under 0.5% and the recount was ordered under a new state law on auditing.
The Trump campaign did not immediately comment on the AP’s victory call for Biden or the audit results on Thursday evening.

Ben Adida, executive director of VotingWorks, a bipartisan non-profit group that helps states conduct election audits, said the Georgia audit confirming Biden as the winner “should give voters increased confidence in the results”.
“The difference between the reported results and the full manual tally is well within the expected error rate of hand-counting ballots, and the audit was a success,” Adida said in the Georgia secretary of state’s statement.

Michigan
Giuliani said the campaign was withdrawing its last remaining lawsuit in Michigan. He said it had achieved its aim of stopping the certification of the result in one key county.
However, the vice-chairman of Wayne County's canvassing board said an attempt by its two Republican members to rescind their earlier certification of the result was invalid, and the certification was binding.

In Arizona on Thursday, a judge rejected a lawsuit filed last week by the state Republican Party seeking a new audit of ballots in Maricopa County, home to Phoenix - the state's capital and largest city.

In Pennsylvania, the Trump campaign asked a judge to allow them to restore a claim they had dropped on Sunday that Republican observers were improperly blocked from watching the vote count.

A Trump lawsuit has been filed in Nevada and his campaign has paid for a partial recount in Wisconsin, though election officials there say this will probably only favour Mr Biden.
 
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I don't watch tv hardly at all, and I certainly don't watch cable news.

CNN is like it is because fox was so successful. Because CNN is designed to be the homer report for democrats, and the country is SO far to the right, Fox is way more extreme and irresponsible than CNN is, but they are both absolute trash and bad for public discourse. Fox bears a significant amount of responsibility for the shit state that the USA is in.

CNN is propaganda and hyperbole.

Fox is propaganda, hyperbole, fakes news and disinformation. Only Chris Matthews is worth anything over there. I'm pretty sure the rest of the presenters, especially Tucker Carlson, to hell for selling their souls. They've sold their souls for moola from ole' Rupert Murdoch. Like his other venture, The Lying Rag, it's not to be trusted. It takes a special kind of fool to buy into their lies. But many Americans are soulless creatures, so yeah, they're pretty successful.
 
What happens next is the fun part.

Normally you’d expect the Democrats to be all “let’s unite the country and put this all behind us”.

Fuck that.

This is a horror show and Trump is the slasher - winning the election is like popping one bullet in him to take him down - sure as fuck he’s going to get up and stab you the minute your back’s turned.

Biden needs to do the equivalent of walking over to Trump’s downed supposed corpse and offload a full clip into his head.

Then set fire to the body.

Then put the ashes in a lock box and hide it like the did the ark at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

And shoot anyone that comes near the warehouse.

Basically....,

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I'm surprised at the wider set of Republicans who seem to be doubling down on Trumpism even now.

I thought that his defeat would bring back some sense of order and adherence to political norms but nope... just a continued smash and grab for whatever they can get away with.

Are they playing to their bases for fear of losing Trump supporters or is it the case that Trump has just enabled them to finally let loose and the cat is out of the bag in that sense... whatever it is, it feels like this is the new political norm now.
 
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CNN is propaganda and hyperbole.

Fox is propaganda, hyperbole, fakes news and disinformation. Only Chris Matthews is worth anything over there. I'm pretty sure the rest of the presenters, especially Tucker Carlson, to hell for selling their souls. They've sold their souls for moola from ole' Rupert Murdoch. Like his other venture, The Lying Rag, it's not to be trusted. It takes a special kind of fool to buy into their lies. But many Americans are soulless creatures, so yeah, they're pretty successful.

You're saying that because CNN agree with your broad political stance, and Fox do not, which gives an illusion of one being slightly more useful than the other. In reality they are both total garbage.
 
I suppose you could still be going on about the safety of voting systems had the hand count and machine count in Georgia not been pretty much the same. Now it just looks mad.
 
I suppose you could still be going on about the safety of voting systems had the hand count and machine count in Georgia not been pretty much the same. Now it just looks mad.

The court claim in Georgia concerns "whether Georgia's Secretary of State altered the process established by the Georgia legislature for handling defective absentee ballots, in violation of federal constitutional law and federal and Georgia statutory law". If you put defective ballots in a machine, or you count them by hand, nobody claimed you'd get a different result. The voting machine claims which I don't think are mentioned in the court cases but I might have skimmed over it, are about Michigan and Pennsylvania, and the software glitch they admitted happened in Arizona.
 
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