Backroom Shake Up.. Marsh & Pascoe gone.. More to come..
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So no Marsh and no Pascoe.... Are Brendan blaming them for the shit instead of taking the responsibilty himself?
Happen to come across this interview with his 1st assistant at Watford and Reading, Dean Austin (who joined Watford for a 2nd spell back in Jan 2015).
[article=http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/watfordfc/watfordfcnews/11837719.Austin__I_have_always_had_a_feeling_for_this_club/?ref=rss]So how do Jokanovic and Rodgers compare?
“Brendan was very much the head coach and wanted to do pretty much all the training himself and just wanted the support of his staff,” Austin explained. “Yes he would give you bits to do but Slavisa gives you a lot more freedom with regards to delivering sessions. We talk about what we are going to do as a group and then we go out on the field and deliver it, whereas Brendan was very much building from his model all the time and he would do the vast majority of the training. At times Brendan would say ‘ok, you do today or Malky you do a day today’ but he liked to have the overall control [of the sessions].”
The current management set-up sees Jokanovic and his three assistants work closely as a group on deciding issues like training and tactics. None of the assistants have a set area they work on, instead bouncing ideas off each other.
It was interesting to note as I walked into the training ground a couple of days before the interview with Austin that he and Pereira were – despite the Hornets’ crucial automatic promotion push – working with the club’s development squad defenders.
“We have a squad of players who all have needs,” Austin acknowledged when asked about it. “They (the development players) need us and it is pretty much guaranteed that we will need them at some point during this run in. No one is forgotten here. The reality is that 11 players go on a pitch on a Saturday but everyone can always get better. Me as a coach, the players; we are always looking to improve to make it better.”
Rodgers took Austin with him to Reading for their ill-fated spell but a combination of Swansea City insisting on the now Liverpool boss retaining the Swans’ existing staff, Austin’s seriously ill mother and his return to Palace meant he did not follow the ex-Chelsea coach to South Wales.[/article]
[article=http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/watfordfc/watfordfcnews/11837719.Austin__I_have_always_had_a_feeling_for_this_club/?ref=rss]So how do Jokanovic and Rodgers compare?
“Brendan was very much the head coach and wanted to do pretty much all the training himself and just wanted the support of his staff,” Austin explained. “Yes he would give you bits to do but Slavisa gives you a lot more freedom with regards to delivering sessions. We talk about what we are going to do as a group and then we go out on the field and deliver it, whereas Brendan was very much building from his model all the time and he would do the vast majority of the training. At times Brendan would say ‘ok, you do today or Malky you do a day today’ but he liked to have the overall control [of the sessions].”
The current management set-up sees Jokanovic and his three assistants work closely as a group on deciding issues like training and tactics. None of the assistants have a set area they work on, instead bouncing ideas off each other.
It was interesting to note as I walked into the training ground a couple of days before the interview with Austin that he and Pereira were – despite the Hornets’ crucial automatic promotion push – working with the club’s development squad defenders.
“We have a squad of players who all have needs,” Austin acknowledged when asked about it. “They (the development players) need us and it is pretty much guaranteed that we will need them at some point during this run in. No one is forgotten here. The reality is that 11 players go on a pitch on a Saturday but everyone can always get better. Me as a coach, the players; we are always looking to improve to make it better.”
Rodgers took Austin with him to Reading for their ill-fated spell but a combination of Swansea City insisting on the now Liverpool boss retaining the Swans’ existing staff, Austin’s seriously ill mother and his return to Palace meant he did not follow the ex-Chelsea coach to South Wales.[/article]
If he had any authority, lets say regarding signings etc, he should probably be the one taking the blame instead of these two jokers.... It is all weird but it seem like they are thightening the grip now? Might it be that Brodgers are so desperate.that he has agreed to leave for free if they dont qualify for CL next year?
It's hard not to think they're clearing the ground ready for a new manager. Frankly, if you go with a manager I think you should let him have whoever he wants as an assistant. It's part of his ability to make judgements that you're supposed to be backing. And if you don't back his judgement, do you force someone on him? It's a very odd way to go on.
I doubt Rodgers has done the dirty on his staff. He'd be destroying any chance that they might want to team up with him again elsewhere. My guess is the owners are indicating to him that, after having given way to him over the structure when he was appointed and being unimpressed with the results, they're now laying the law down to him about it. The subtext is that, if he doesn't like it, he knows where the door is.
And this was what John Madejski commented in 2012
[article=http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rodgers-wrong-men-reading-4199687]Sir John Madejski believes that Brendan Rodgers’ downfall as Reading boss was partly due to his backroom staff.
Royals chairman Sir John sacked Rodgers in December 2009 and replaced the former Chelsea coach with Brian McDermott.
Rodgers, a former Reading trainee and Academy coach, lasted just six months at Madejski Stadium.
He was given the boot after 195 days with the club sitting in 21st place following five wins from 21 league games.
“I think the choice of people he had around him didn’t help him too much,” said Sir John.
“We were on a trajectory that wasn’t working and sometimes you have to act before it’s too late.
“But I’ve never had any problems with Brendan Rodgers and I thought he was a great manager and was with me for years before he went to Chelsea.”
Rodgers added Dean Austin, the former Tottenham Hotspur and Crystal Palace right-back to his backroom staff as assistant manager along with football consultant Frank Lampard senior.
However, Sir John refused to elaborate on who exactly it was that he was aiming his criticism at.
He continued: “I don’t want to name names. I just think that for one reason or another it just didn’t gel for one reason or another.
“If we had given them longer it might have done, but we were looking to maintain our Championship momentum and just felt that we couldn’t afford to take more time.”[/article]
[article=http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rodgers-wrong-men-reading-4199687]Sir John Madejski believes that Brendan Rodgers’ downfall as Reading boss was partly due to his backroom staff.
Royals chairman Sir John sacked Rodgers in December 2009 and replaced the former Chelsea coach with Brian McDermott.
Rodgers, a former Reading trainee and Academy coach, lasted just six months at Madejski Stadium.
He was given the boot after 195 days with the club sitting in 21st place following five wins from 21 league games.
“I think the choice of people he had around him didn’t help him too much,” said Sir John.
“We were on a trajectory that wasn’t working and sometimes you have to act before it’s too late.
“But I’ve never had any problems with Brendan Rodgers and I thought he was a great manager and was with me for years before he went to Chelsea.”
Rodgers added Dean Austin, the former Tottenham Hotspur and Crystal Palace right-back to his backroom staff as assistant manager along with football consultant Frank Lampard senior.
However, Sir John refused to elaborate on who exactly it was that he was aiming his criticism at.
He continued: “I don’t want to name names. I just think that for one reason or another it just didn’t gel for one reason or another.
“If we had given them longer it might have done, but we were looking to maintain our Championship momentum and just felt that we couldn’t afford to take more time.”[/article]
Largely agree. I only wonder whether, having presumably been impressed by him when initially recruiting for the post, they retain some of that and think he can do better with better people around him. But it wouldn't surprise me if, as you suggest, they're playing a long game with someone else in mind.
It would be interesting to see who are appointed, especially if the new appointee(s) are somehow linked to either Klopp or Ancelotti.
Ive changed the thread title..
Given what is going on.. it warrants it..
Given what is going on.. it warrants it..
I dont mean people with Statistics PHD. I meant people like Kidd, Mclaren who are supposedly very good at the fundamentals of the game. There should be a lot of those around.
Well, yes, but Kidd was just the same with the mancs. He wasn't brought in because he was the leading coach or analyst of his generation. His connection with the club was considered important. McLaren was brought in because Ginsoak realised he was being left behind with the new era of stats and video analysis, and looked around for a specialist. We don't need that here and now. And with Rodgers dominating the analysis anyway, you need someone to partly transcend the details and look at the big picture, not the other way round.
Maybe Rodgers can be the new ass manager....
It's stupid though, to prepare the ground for the next manager in this fashion. Shades of the Evans / Houllier co-management scenario if that's what they really have in mind. Either have a clean break right now, or wait until a better moment to make one.
The cynical side of me thinks they're playing a different game though. Maybe they do want Rodgers to go, but haven't been able to agree with him on the compensation package. Hence they're making the working conditions tougher for him in the hope of forcing him back to the table to accept their offer.
Talk on twitter that Rodgers is being given control of transfers and if he doesn't make top 4 he's gone.
Makes sense given our extremely Rodgersian transfer targets. I don't know whether to despair at the potential incomings or take succour from the effective insurance policy of having him out on his ear at the end of the season.
Makes sense given our extremely Rodgersian transfer targets. I don't know whether to despair at the potential incomings or take succour from the effective insurance policy of having him out on his ear at the end of the season.
I Would take Mike Phealan if he is available
If its his ONE shot to keep the job, why the fuck would he sign Benteke and Ings!?
I think this is going to be the window we pull a Suarez/Torres-esque signing out of the bag.
Time to trott out the list:
Benzema
Higauin
Pjanic
Griezmann
De Bruyne
Lacazette
Veratti
Pedro
*this list is not exhaustive
Steve Wilson @SteveWilson1967 5m5 minutes ago
"If the owners ask me to go, Colin will go - simple as that."
"If the owners ask me to go, Colin will go - simple as that."
Brian Kid and Shteve McClaren
Because he's clueless. Do you think he's been signing garbage up to now as some kind of con trick?
Well no, I was assuming the point was HE wasnt signing the players until now hence they have said HE is now in charge of them?
Am I misunderstanding the point here?
Cheaper to fire staff than manager. Set up your own people, get inside details on training, planning, conversations, etc. Rodgers to be tested if he can work his methods with people he didn't handpick.
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