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Babel: I'm not finished here

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Ryan Babel hopes the Roy Hodgson era can be the start of 'a new chapter' in his Liverpool career after admitting he has yet to reach his full potential at Anfield.

The Holland international has been the subject of transfer speculation this summer but his focus has always remained on proving his worth to the new gaffer.

He said: "I have been through a difficult time at Liverpool, but I look upon this year as a new chapter for me.

"I am trying to be positive and looking forward. I still have two years left on my contract and I love Liverpool. I am settled.

"If I had the feeling that I have done everything I can here, then maybe I would say that it is time to look at something else. But at the moment I don't have that feeling at all.

"I feel I can give more and be important for Liverpool. I will try and be successful. I haven't really spoken to the manager about it.

"He has been busy with players coming back, I think when the transfer window is over then we will try and find the time to sit down and talk about things."

One club rumoured to be interested in Babel's services was Wolfsburg - but talk of such a move was quashed last week by Hodgson.

And Babel added: "The first time I heard about the interest from Wolfsburg was when someone asked me on Twitter if it was true.

"I Googled it and it said the deal was almost done! I didn't even know anything about it."

Babel was one of the last players to return to Melwood from the World Cup after Holland reached the final.

Despite his limited time with Hodgson, the winger has been impressed.

"I have been back two weeks more or less and he seems a very honest manager and very direct to the players," said Babel. "Everyone knows what he is up to and I like that.

"If I am 100 per cent fit and have the confidence I know that I can have, I think I can have an impact.

"It is a new season so everyone is starting afresh. We have a different staff, different people around us, different training sessions. It is a change and hopefully that will benefit me."

Babel's first start of the season against Trabzonspor last week saw him placed up front on his own.

Hodgson's selection was rewarded with a well-taken goal just before half-time.

The 23-year-old was then replaced at the break to allow Fernando Torres 45 valuable minutes in his quest for full fitness.

Babel said: "The goal was a big confidence boost for myself. It was a good set up by Joe Cole and I was fortunate that I could take it.

"I didn't expect to come off, but that was the manager's choice.

"He was pretty direct about that and said Fernando was going to play in the second half. He already had that in mind even if I played well."

In fairness to the guy, he's always given a pretty honest appraisal of his career at Liverpool in the media and never shied away from the fact that he's not succeeded as everyone had hoped. It seems like it's fruitless hoping for him to come good, but I'd love to see it happen.
 
I've all but given up on him, but it'll be interesting to see what Roy thinks of him, it was telling that he played him as a striker the other week, he scored so surely deserves another go at some point. If we sign a striker though, who knows what will happen to him.
 
What annoys me is when he does score all the fans get smug and think he's proved the doubters wrong like they knew he would all along.

Yes, we know he can score sometimes. The problem is he's a lazy, one footed, brainless, overtly casual fool.
 
I cant help but love Ryan. I try not too, i try to convince myself i hate the motherfucker but i just cant.
He read about it on Twitter so Googled his name. Legend.
Fuck it, Aquilani is gone, im getting on the Babel train.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41649.msg1164930#msg1164930 date=1283026175]
I cant help but love Ryan. I try not too, i try to convince myself i hate the motherfucker but i just cant.
He read about it on Twitter so Googled his name. Legend.
Fuck it, Aquilani is gone, im getting on the Babel train.
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Poor Ryan. that is the kiss of death for him for sure.
 
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=41649.msg1164922#msg1164922 date=1283025516]
I'm not sure why, but I still like Babel and think he can make it.
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[quote author=the count link=topic=41649.msg1164934#msg1164934 date=1283026578]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41649.msg1164930#msg1164930 date=1283026175]
I cant help but love Ryan. I try not too, i try to convince myself i hate the motherfucker but i just cant.
He read about it on Twitter so Googled his name. Legend.
Fuck it, Aquilani is gone, im getting on the Babel train.
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Poor Ryan. that is the kiss of death for him for sure.

[/quote]Get some new material.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41649.msg1164941#msg1164941 date=1283026759]
[quote author=the count link=topic=41649.msg1164934#msg1164934 date=1283026578]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41649.msg1164930#msg1164930 date=1283026175]
I cant help but love Ryan. I try not too, i try to convince myself i hate the motherfucker but i just cant.
He read about it on Twitter so Googled his name. Legend.
Fuck it, Aquilani is gone, im getting on the Babel train.
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Poor Ryan. that is the kiss of death for him for sure.

[/quote]Get some new material.
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:-*

XXX
 
[quote author=the count link=topic=41649.msg1164934#msg1164934 date=1283026578]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41649.msg1164930#msg1164930 date=1283026175]
I cant help but love Ryan. I try not too, i try to convince myself i hate the motherfucker but i just cant.
He read about it on Twitter so Googled his name. Legend.
Fuck it, Aquilani is gone, im getting on the Babel train.
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Poor Ryan. that is the kiss of death for him for sure.

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Nope, I think this may be different.
 
In my opinion Babel is finsihed here. Which, of course, will matter greatly to him.
 
I'm still hopeful he can play and reach double figures in terms of goals a season. I do think he hated rafa and will be better under Roy but still doubt he has the bottle to be really good
 
There are a couple of reasons why Ryan is right to say that he isn't finished yet at LFC, firstly because he has never bothered his arse to start and secondly because we haven't fucking sold the lazy useless cunt yet.

Fuck Babel.... Fucking worse than Lucas .... at least Lucas doesn't have a choice but to be shit.
 
I didn't like him in the second half of last season where his form was pretty dismal.

But I am hopeful Hodgson can get him playing to how he was in his first season. Not many people seem to remember, but he really was quite good, and then Riera came and stifled his progress, and since then he's been all over the place.

He also offers the pace we desperately lack throughout the side.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=41649.msg1165058#msg1165058 date=1283041926]
I didn't like him in the second half of last season where his form was pretty dismal.

But I am hopeful Hodgson can get him playing to how he was in his first season. Not many people seem to remember, but he really was quite good, and then Riera came and stifled his progress and since then he's been all over the place.

He also offers the pace we desperately lack throughout the side.

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*nods*
he's a solid option to have
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41649.msg1164938#msg1164938 date=1283026662]
All he needs now is the doc mac seal of approval and he might as well chop off his fucking legs
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Attaching a pair of wheels to the stumps might improve his mobility.
 
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=41649.msg1164922#msg1164922 date=1283025516]
I'm not sure why, but I still like Babel and think he can make it.
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Innit, I feel mad for being in the minority on this but I too still think he can come good. My biggest problem with him has always been his lack of focus when it comes to his football, if he's finally called it a day (or at least move it well and truly to the back burner) on the rap shite and genuinely wants to do well for us then I think he will be vastly better than we have seen for most of his time in red.
 
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=41649.msg1165075#msg1165075 date=1283055191]
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=41649.msg1164922#msg1164922 date=1283025516]
I'm not sure why, but I still like Babel and think he can make it.
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Innit, I feel mad for being in the minority on this but I too still think he can come good. My biggest problem with him has always been his lack of focus when it comes to his football, if he's finally called it a day (or at least move it well and truly to the back burner) on the rap shite and genuinely wants to do well for us then I think he will be vastly better than we have seen for most of his time in red.
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Why should he put his music to one side and how do you know he's not been focused?

Should Carra be forced to close down his restaurant till he retires?

Should Agger be told that he's not allowed to do any more tattoos whilst he's a red (putting aside the fact that he's said he's not really into football)?

I think a lot of people see a player that hasn't quite made it here and think that because he posts on Twitter and is into other stuff, he's not trying hard enough, which is a big assumption to make and very much open to question.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41649.msg1164938#msg1164938 date=1283026662]
All he needs now is the doc mac seal of approval and he might as well chop off his fucking legs
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I won't be granting it with Babel, so perhaps there is hope.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=41649.msg1165098#msg1165098 date=1283065364]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=41649.msg1165075#msg1165075 date=1283055191]
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=41649.msg1164922#msg1164922 date=1283025516]
I'm not sure why, but I still like Babel and think he can make it.
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Innit, I feel mad for being in the minority on this but I too still think he can come good. My biggest problem with him has always been his lack of focus when it comes to his football, if he's finally called it a day (or at least move it well and truly to the back burner) on the rap shite and genuinely wants to do well for us then I think he will be vastly better than we have seen for most of his time in red.
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Why should he put his music to one side and how do you know he's not been focused?

Should Carra be forced to close down his restaurant till he retires?

Should Agger be told that he's not allowed to do any more tattoos whilst he's a red (putting aside the fact that he's said he's not really into football)?

I think a lot of people see a player that hasn't quite made it here and think that because he posts on Twitter and is into other stuff, he's not trying hard enough, which is a big assumption to make and very much open to question.
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That's a good point, but it's not really a surprising assumption made when a player who has some talent plays so poorly.

N'gog has far less talent, and has clearly shown that against better teams..but he's still of more use to us than Babel (who costs 8 times as much)
 
It's not a surprising assumption, but it's a lazy one.

(waits for someone to follow up with a quip about Babel being lazy)
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=41649.msg1165098#msg1165098 date=1283065364]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=41649.msg1165075#msg1165075 date=1283055191]
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=41649.msg1164922#msg1164922 date=1283025516]
I'm not sure why, but I still like Babel and think he can make it.
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Innit, I feel mad for being in the minority on this but I too still think he can come good. My biggest problem with him has always been his lack of focus when it comes to his football, if he's finally called it a day (or at least move it well and truly to the back burner) on the rap shite and genuinely wants to do well for us then I think he will be vastly better than we have seen for most of his time in red.
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Why should he put his music to one side and how do you know he's not been focused?

Should Carra be forced to close down his restaurant till he retires?

Should Agger be told that he's not allowed to do any more tattoos whilst he's a red (putting aside the fact that he's said he's not really into football)?

I think a lot of people see a player that hasn't quite made it here and think that because he posts on Twitter and is into other stuff, he's not trying hard enough, which is a big assumption to make and very much open to question.
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I think alot of the stick he receives over his rapping goes back to the interview he did saying that he had more time for his music than his football, that it was main love or whatever. I don't think it's just because he likes doing it in his spare time, but yeah, if his performances had shown a bit more heart and delivery on a more consistent basis, maybe it wouldn't be used as a stick to beat him with.

There's a reason why Carra doesn't have the same criticism directed at him regards his restaurants, it's because his performances have by and large been consistently good and full of heart for YEARS. There's a World of difference.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41649.msg1165106#msg1165106 date=1283068786]
I think alot of the stick he receives over his rapping goes back to the interview he did saying that he had more time for his music than his football, that it was main love or whatever. I don't think it's just because he likes doing it in his spare time, but yeah, if his performances had shown a bit more heart and delivery on a more consistent basis, maybe it wouldn't be used as a stick to beat him with.

There's a reason why Carra doesn't have the same criticism directed at him regards his restaurants, it's because his performances have by and large been consistently good and full of heart for YEARS. There's a World of difference.
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Heh, Mark! Fancy meeting you here...

Of course there is a world of difference between Carra and Babel. There is even a world of difference between Agger, who said he doesn't care much for the game of football, and Babel. The point is that everyone most likely has interests and things that occupy their time outside of football and footballing issues aside, Babel gets stick because he's seen as thick and his shit is looked down upon.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=41649.msg1165112#msg1165112 date=1283069140]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41649.msg1165106#msg1165106 date=1283068786]
I think alot of the stick he receives over his rapping goes back to the interview he did saying that he had more time for his music than his football, that it was main love or whatever. I don't think it's just because he likes doing it in his spare time, but yeah, if his performances had shown a bit more heart and delivery on a more consistent basis, maybe it wouldn't be used as a stick to beat him with.

There's a reason why Carra doesn't have the same criticism directed at him regards his restaurants, it's because his performances have by and large been consistently good and full of heart for YEARS. There's a World of difference.
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Heh, Mark! Fancy meeting you here...

Of course there is a world of difference between Carra and Babel. There is even a world of difference between Agger, who said he doesn't care much for the game of football, and Babel. The point is that everyone most likely has interests and things that occupy their time outside of football and footballing issues aside, Babel gets stick because he's seen as thick and his shit is looked down upon.
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Ok, I think he's had fun pointed at him because of it, but I don't think it's particularly looked down upon, it's just that his hobby is more accessible, so people can watch it and say it's shit. It's not like we're all in a position to say the food at Carra's restaurant is shit and he should stick to football.

Yeah I realise Agger said the same too, but his performances have always suggested his heart is in it. I thought it was all obvious?? Maybe he does take some unfair shit for it, but it goes hand in hand with his twittering, which has just served to confirm people's opinions of him being a bit thick. He hasn't done himself many favours, image wise, even though essentially he's doing no one any harm, it just help compound people's opinion of him.

I don't really care either way, I hope there's still a player in there that might be 'realised' by Roy, it was at least interesting to see him up front.
 
I dont think music is any of issue here;he get's slated because he isn't very good and we paid a LOT of money for him.

The fact that he 'seemed' more interested in making shitty music just compounded that opinion.
 
You'll get no arguments from me that his performances haven't always been up to scratch. I'm just arguing - as I always have done - that he gets unfair stick for the off the pitch stuff.

And I think his twittering is great. From the cabbie story, to finding a stream to watch us online to Googling his name to find out if he's being transferred to Wolfsburg. Come on!
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=41649.msg1165129#msg1165129 date=1283069964]
You'll get no arguments from me that his performances haven't always been up to scratch. I'm just arguing - as I always have done - that he gets unfair stick for the off the pitch stuff.

And I think his twittering is great. From the cabbie story, to finding a stream to watch us online to Googling his name to find out if he's being transferred to Wolfsburg. Come on!
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Ha.. I don't mind any of it tbh, I can just understand why he gets some stick for it. The only thing he did do on Twitter that was stupid was record a video on his mobile phone while he was driving, which was just asking for trouble. But yeah, it's funny to see someone not taking themselves so seriously, I just hope he'll buck up on the pitch now and be a threat for us.
 
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