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ASHES - 2015!

Rodgers will definitely play this entire series. He's proved he's the one Aussie batsman who really understands English conditions (understandably, since he's played most of his first class career in England) and it would be completely daft to drop him. He's retiring at the end of this series, but you can expect his average to match the best of the Aussie batsmen come the end of it.
 
Bit harsh on Rodgers - he got 95 in the first innings! He is nearly eligible for his pension though. Haddin looked a problem to me - much less athletic than the last Ashes, keeping wicket is the hardest job on the field, incredibly hard on the thighs, but I can't see him being dropped

Haddin is not playing at Lords. Dropped out due to 'personal reasons'....

EDIT: Whoops soz for the quiff. Didn't see the above posts.

You have to say that is good news for Australia really. Haddin has been pretty awful in the long game. This new fella can only be an improvement.
 
Well its got a real sense of symmetry with the last Ashes - unexpected first loss for the favourites, Trotty and Haddin drop out due to personal reasons, the best bowler in both sides retires Harris and Swann. Too early to say the wheels are coming off for the Aussies we can but hope though.
 
Haddin must have been concerned about the lords swing after watching the NZ test. Does Nevill bat much?
 
He's got a 1st Class average of 44. This is not good. He's decent - A more than adequate replacement for Haddin.
 
Amazing report from Jack Bannister on TalkSport earlier this evening. According to him the Aussie dressing-room is in bits: the players want Steve Smith to take over the captaincy from Clarke, whom nobody else wants in the role any more, and nobody's even speaking to David Warner.
 
Amazing report from Jack Bannister on TalkSport earlier this evening. According to him the Aussie dressing-room is in bits: the players want Steve Smith to take over the captaincy from Clarke, whom nobody else wants in the role any more, and nobody's even speaking to David Warner.


To quote Mr Burns, 'Excellent'!


@tony might be on to something with this symmetry stuff.
 
Haddin's got family problems that have been going on for a while apparently.
Clarke's captaincy and merits of having the accolade over Smith have been long discussed. They came to a tipping point right before the WC and it was almost taken off Clarke, but then they won the thing, so I can't see it happening until after this Series. Everyone knows Smith is next in line so I don't think it's an issue.
And Warner's easily one of the most popular blokes in the side. I can see why everyone else hates him, but he's a great player to have in your side.

I think a lot of this is media spin based in one bad performance. If they win at Lords then it's 1-1 again and you won't hear any of this stuff.

If they win at Lords though.
 
AND FUCKING WATSON'S BEEN DROPPED!

This Lords test is in the bag now.

Ha! Can only help the Oz cause mate. My wife will be happy. I'm not sure I am. I just hope it kicks on to a 5th day - I've gambled on a ticket.

Shame for Watson - He was a bloody good player 5 years ago.
 
Marsh (who I’m assuming will be his replacement) is a terrific talent. He’s made runs consistently over the last two years, has a lovely technique, and his Shield form is impressive. If he gets in, he can score runs quickly.

Plus he’s good in the field.

I’m a fan.
 
So then a brave new world for the Aussies. Right smack in the middle of an Ashes tour in England and being a test down. Change the wicket keeper and the 1st choice all rounder. It had to happen but serious questions of the Oz selectors should be asked.

That said - As an England fan - These changes give me the fear a bit. Marsh seems mint and Nevill is decent.

I guess we'll see. (I just hope I can see it at Lords on the 5th day!) 🙂
 
So then a brave new world for the Aussies. Right smack in the middle of an Ashes tour in England and being a test down. Change the wicket keeper and the 1st choice all rounder. It had to happen but serious questions of the Oz selectors should be asked.

That said - As an England fan - These changes give me the fear a bit. Marsh seems mint and Nevill is decent.

I guess we'll see. (I just hope I can see it at Lords on the 5th day!) 🙂


I don't think it's as dramatic as that. Haddin's missing out for personal reasons, he'd have kept his spot but for that. What do you expect the selectors to do, force him to play?

And Watson's being dropped on merit. It was a coin toss between him and Marsh in the first place, so it's not unexpected.

Besides, Australia have to win. Persisting with something that wasn't working wasn't going to get them anywhere.
 
I don't think it's as dramatic as that. Haddin's missing out for personal reasons, he'd have kept his spot but for that. What do you expect the selectors to do, force him to play?

And Watson's being dropped on merit. It was a coin toss between him and Marsh in the first place, so it's not unexpected.

Besides, Australia have to win. Persisting with something that wasn't working wasn't going to get them anywhere.

That's true - I wasn't being dramatic. Just stating the bleeding obvious. Roll on Lords.
 
Me and my housemate just pushed the boat out and got a pair of tickets for this from viagogo. There are singles available from the Lords website for all days and over the phone too. Can't wait - hopefully we are still in the game come day 4!
 
Me and my housemate just pushed the boat out and got a pair of tickets for this from viagogo. There are singles available from the Lords website for all days and over the phone too. Can't wait - hopefully we are still in the game come day 4!

Nice! How much?
 
The singles on the website are face value so £100 a ticket (it claims they are in a range of £30 - £100 but all i saw were £100). We got a pair together for 180 each but i don't mind paying that for a great day out that only comes around every so often.
 
The singles on the website are face value so £100 a ticket (it claims they are in a range of £30 - £100 but all i saw were £100). We got a pair together for 180 each but i don't mind paying that for a great day out that only comes around every so often.

Yeah, that isn't ridiculously priced for a day at Lords for an Ashes test match. You may hope you have a day four like the Cardiff game.
 
Yeah, that isn't ridiculously priced for a day at Lords for an Ashes test match. You may hope you have a day four like the Cardiff game.


My current client has an incredible array of free food in its fridges for breakfast/ lunch/ snacks so i'm adjusting the net price of the ticket on a daily basis as i save my lunch money 😉
 
Nothing really @737Max. School boy stuff. Stopping Stokes from doing his normal thing between overs while he's at the crease. Both of them getting in his way. Under his nose and basically acting like dickheads. Stokes didn't care he just stood his ground and waited for them to fuck off. Nasser picked up on it during commentary. They did it a few times - Obviously thinking they can wind him up. They looked stupid believe me.

Interview with Ben Stokes gives his perspective

Revenge for the pain of previous defeats is the motivating force for Ben Stokes in the Investec Ashes and helped focus his mind in the face of Australian provocation during the first Test in Cardiff.
He was a member of the side thrashed 5-0 in Australia in 2013-14 and admitted that the memories of that experience were fresh in his mind as England closed in on victory during the opening Test.
But Stokes knows that, if he is to enjoy consistent success in the series, he will have to retain his composure despite Australia's aims to get under his skin. He joked before the series started that it sounded like "all I want to do is fight them" when pressed on his combative attitude, so while he dismissed an attempt to unsettle him while batting as "silly" he understands it is part of a tactic to disrupt his concentration.
In the incident, David Warner and Nathan Lyon stood in the crease at the non-strikers' end staging a mock conversation in an attempt to prevent Stokes from completing an idiosyncratic ritual - sweeping his bat on the ground - that he does at the end of each over.
"Brad Haddin picked up on me sweeping my bat when we were in Australia. He said 'you're still doing that then?' and I said 'yeah.' It's something I've done over the last two or three years. Every batsman probably has something they like to do and that's mine.
"Then Lyon and Warner thought it would be funny to stand in my way. That was pretty silly I thought really. Joe Root said that if they're trying to do that, they must be thinking we're on top. So if they're going to do that for the rest of the series then fair enough.
"I guess they were trying to put me off, but it just did not work. I just said you can stand there all day because I'm not moving until you move. If you want to get your captain's over rate down then so be it."
But more than Australia's attempts to unsettle him, it was the feeling Stokes had as England closed in on victory that most resonated.
Even though he emerged from the whitewash 18 months ago as a rare beacon of hope for England, when speaking before this current series began he said he still did not have many fond memories of it because of the result so was desperate to put the record straight.
"Revenge is a massive motivation," he said. "When Joe Root caught the catch at the end it was like revenge. When they were eight wickets down I was thinking about how we felt when we were getting beat every game. To be on the verge of winning when they were eight wickets down and after what they did to us in Australia was pretty cool."
 
Australia win the toss and bat.

That would have been my call too. As said above, get through the new ball this morning and pile on in the afternoon.
 
Brad Haddin's 2 year old daughter seriously ill in hospital with rare form of cancer.

Heartbreaking.
 
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