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are we fucking buying anyone or what like?

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If we dont buy anyone it would seem a possible takeover would be on the cards.....

Its typical not to move any assets before a sale too much in most businesses right?

This is why we've held onto Lucas. He's too valuable to any potential new owners. The ongoing sale rumours every transfer window have scuppered 3 previous billionaire takeovers.
 
So - I hear no new superstar has been added and it is the second week of January. Is anyone worried ?
 
I don't think you can count on great signings in the January window. If somebody turns up, so much the better.
 
Honest question: Did Leicester buy anyone last January?

EDIT: The internet is a wonderful thing. THey bought three players in the January 2016 window: Demarai Grey, Daniel Amartay, and Daniel Iversen. This tells me nothing. Carry on.
 
Borderline negligence if we don't get one or two in, in my view.
We've known since we bought him, Mane was away for the month of January, possibly to early Feb depending on how far Senegal go. Even forgetting Mane being away, we look pretty light in the attacking third.
That's without considering Sturridge' injury record, Origi's inconsistency and Firmino not being as sharp as he was a few months ago etc.

A player or two in January transfer window of 08-09 and 13-14 could have made all the difference. Was pretty obvious at the time it was needed so it's not really hindsight that.
 
If Spurs had signed a forward player this time last year, they probably would be champions, and not come up short so close to the end. I hope we don’t make the same mistake.
 
The January transfer window is different from the Summer transfer window. Clubs do not normally plan to sell players in mid-season. When players do become available in January it is usually because of some kind of exceptional circumstances. In my opinion, clubs cannot rely on the January window to make key signings.
 
Indeed Portly....but i fear Woland has followed his own advice sometime in the past and being cockless has worked for him. Me - I would like Klopp to make some signings for our frontline to restore my confidence. I know Wolands advice will not do that.

I nearly cut my finger off last night, in some act of karmic rebalancing
 
Borderline negligence if we don't get one or two in, in my view.
We've known since we bought him, Mane was away for the month of January, possibly to early Feb depending on how far Senegal go. Even forgetting Mane being away, we look pretty light in the attacking third.
That's without considering Sturridge' injury record, Origi's inconsistency and Firmino not being as sharp as he was a few months ago etc.

A player or two in January transfer window of 08-09 and 13-14 could have made all the difference. Was pretty obvious at the time it was needed so it's not really hindsight that.
That's how I see it too.
We lack the squad depth of the rest of the top 6 at the moment and it will ultimately cost us in the long run.
 
The January transfer window is different from the Summer transfer window. Clubs do not normally plan to sell players in mid-season. When players do become available in January it is usually because of some kind of exceptional circumstances. In my opinion, clubs cannot rely on the January window to make key signings.

We've gotten Suarez, Studge and Coutinho in Jan in the past so it is possible to get it right.
 
I dunno, are there any positions that we desperately need someone worth spending a fortune on right now?

Not in my view. With Coutinho and Gomez returning, there's immediate high-end quality back into the squad, and Mane will be back in 3 weeks so it's not really that dire.

I don't see the pressing need for signings to be honest.
 
I dunno, are there any positions that we desperately need someone worth spending a fortune on right now?

Not in my view. With Coutinho and Gomez returning, there's immediate high-end quality back into the squad, and Mane will be back in 3 weeks so it's not really that dire.

I don't see the pressing need for signings to be honest.

Actually there is - it's called buying a player with some umph factor that can break down the last line of defense on their own. The other contenders have lots of them in their team and we have one who is in Africa right now. It is those sorts of players that have maximum impact without the entire team being exhausted from constant build up play which can be slower. United have the likes of Rash, and that guy Anthony; City have Sterling and that little Spanish guy; Chelsea have Hazard who attacks with great pace and also that guy from Brazil, Spurs have Walker and that other guy who scored against us. We really don't have players like that to cause problems by themselves alone. Coutinho can and has been nullified a more than a few times this season, as he uses pretty much the same technique to score.
 
I dunno, are there any positions that we desperately need someone worth spending a fortune on right now?

Not in my view. With Coutinho and Gomez returning, there's immediate high-end quality back into the squad, and Mane will be back in 3 weeks so it's not really that dire.

I don't see the pressing need for signings to be honest.

A top class CB would be nice, Gomez will take a while to get up to speed.

If a quality LB became available I'd jump at that too.

It would free up Milner to add another option to our attack.
 
A top class CB would be nice, Gomez will take a while to get up to speed.

If a quality LB became available I'd jump at that too.

It would free up Milner to add another option to our attack.

Lovren, Klavan, Matip, Gomez, Lucas. There's 5 centre backs that can all do more than a job there. What price is is going to cost us to add a "top class CB"? 30M, 40m? What's the point in that?

And Milner's the best left-back in the league. Why would we want to take him out of there?
 
Sorry, that just sounds like arbitrary buzzword fucking nonsense to me.

I assume you know what he means, a player with the ability to create a chance on their own and finish it off.

Probably only Mane and Coutinho can lay claim to that at the moment.

In the 13/14 season we had Suarez, Coutinho, Sterling and Gerrard to a degree.

Mane is away for our most important set of fixtures, Coutinho is coming back from injury so we don't actually have anyone at the moment.
Lallana, Sturridge, Origi and Firmino all rely on people to create the chances for them to finish. If we could find a player of that calibre then it would be wonderful.

Doubt we can though unfortunately
 
I assume you know what he means, a player with the ability to create a chance on their own and finish it off.

Probably only Mane and Coutinho can lay claim to that at the moment.

You think Sturridge can't create a chance on his own and finish it? Or Lallana, or 7 goals and 7 assists this season?

We've scored more goals than any side in the country. Why are you guys flapping on about not having players that can't "break down defences" or "create chances and finish them"? Do you even watch us?
 
Lovren, Klavan, Matip, Gomez, Lucas. There's 5 centre backs that can all do more than a job there. What price is is going to cost us to add a "top class CB"? 30M, 40m? What's the point in that?

And Milner's the best left-back in the league. Why would we want to take him out of there?

Gomez has played 90 mins in what 18 months and Lucas is apparently off to Inter, a couple of suspensions or injury and we'll be super short.

If we did get a cb for that price it would be for the long term to replace Lovren as first choice and partner Matip as I don't think Lovren is the solution long term.

We simply need better if we want to win things.

Milner has done well but saying he has been the best left back in the league is subjective to say the least. He's not the quickest and has had moments where his lack of pace have been highlighted both in defence and attack. He's doing a good stand in job but I would expect another left back to come in either now or in the summer.

I would imagine too in Klopps system his preference would be for a left footed left back.
 
You think Sturridge can't create a chance on his own and finish it? Or Lallana, or 7 goals and 7 assists this season?

We've scored more goals than any side in the country. Why are you guys flapping on about not having players that can't "break down defences" or "create chances and finish them"? Do you even watch us?

When was the last time Sturridge did that? This isn't 2014. He's got 2 goals.

Lallana has been very good but his goals haven't been what I'd call solo goals.

Think Mane against Arsenal, that's what I'm talking about.

Obviously we are scoring goals and playing well but equally there are plenty of games where teams have set up well and we've lacked that ability for someone to just create that bit of magic out of nothing.

Utd
Southampton
Burnley
Sunderland to a degree.

If we have an off day with our fluid movement and passing we don't really have many players who can win you the game on their own.

If both Coutinho and Mane were fit and available and Sturridge was playing to his potential then no problem, but it's no coincidence that our free flowing football from the start of the season has dropped off significantly in the last few months with Coutinho injured and Mane going off the boil somewhat.
 
I dunno, are there any positions that we desperately need someone worth spending a fortune on right now?

Not in my view. With Coutinho and Gomez returning, there's immediate high-end quality back into the squad, and Mane will be back in 3 weeks so it's not really that dire.

I don't see the pressing need for signings to be honest.

I think we're one light in the attacking third I really do. One addition would help us massively in my view. Just be sick to the stomach if we miss out again and you're wondering if just one signing could've made all the difference. No guarantees it would/will of course but we 100% need an extra body or two.
 
You think Sturridge can't create a chance on his own and finish it? Or Lallana, or 7 goals and 7 assists this season?

We've scored more goals than any side in the country. Why are you guys flapping on about not having players that can't "break down defences" or "create chances and finish them"? Do you even watch us?
Yes we do watch the games and sadly we fail to break down certain teams for lack of creativity. Deep inside I hope you are as right as you think you are but clearly you dont see what we lack. It makes the difference against the weaker opposition we face.
 
When was the last time Sturridge did that? This isn't 2014. He's got 2 goals.

Lallana has been very good but his goals haven't been what I'd call solo goals.

Think Mane against Arsenal, that's what I'm talking about.

Obviously we are scoring goals and playing well but equally there are plenty of games where teams have set up well and we've lacked that ability for someone to just create that bit of magic out of nothing.

Utd
Southampton
Burnley
Sunderland to a degree.

If we have an off day with our fluid movement and passing we don't really have many players who can win you the game on their own.

If both Coutinho and Mane were fit and available and Sturridge was playing to his potential then no problem, but it's no coincidence that our free flowing football from the start of the season has dropped off significantly in the last few months with Coutinho injured and Mane going off the boil somewhat.
You are so spot on to what i think Dreamy. I am surprised some dont see it. I would add the West Ham game to the list too. We play around the opposition defence or get lucky from their forced/unforced errors but rarely have we broken them with force the way Chelsea can. As for Sturridge he seems to take pot shots from outside the busy penalty area these days - probably dont want to get hurt in that crowd.
 
Look, it's safe to say that if you and Dreamy are in furious agreement Moron - then I'm going to take the safe, and entirely fucking opposite view - irrespective of whatever validity* there may be to your argument.


*To be clear though; there isn't any.
 
Look, it's safe to say that if you and Dreamy are in furious agreement Moron - then I'm going to take the safe, and entirely fucking opposite view - irrespective of whatever validity* there may be to your argument.


*To be clear though; there isn't any.

I can't quite believe I'm doing this, but here goes anyway:

There's some validity in the point Dreamy is trying to express. While we do create plenty of chances and score lots of goals, Mane is probably the only player we have who can the type of goals he is referring to.

Our game is about a shared, collective game, which is great, but when that is stifled, or we are outplayed - rare as that is - we don't - Mane apart - have a player that can just win us a game on his own, without help.

The likes of Lallana and Firmino can't do it, they have no pace. Origi isn't reliable.

He's talking about a player like Owen (Arsenal cup final), Suarez, Gerrard (countless times) or Torres. One simple pass over the top, or burst through the lines and a nerveless finish, and a victory can be snatched from nowhere, undeserved.

All great teams have one or two of that sort of player.

That's what he thinks we lack, and he's got a point.
 
Look, it's safe to say that if you and Dreamy are in furious agreement Moron - then I'm going to take the safe, and entirely fucking opposite view - irrespective of whatever validity* there may be to your argument.


*To be clear though; there isn't any.

Then you are the one who isn't watching us properly as my point is 100% valid
 
I can't quite believe I'm doing this, but here goes anyway:

There's some validity in the point Dreamy is trying to express. While we do create plenty of chances and score lots of goals, Mane is probably the only player we have who can the type of goals he is referring to.

Our game is about a shared, collective game, which is great, but when that is stifled, or we are outplayed - rare as that is - we don't - Mane apart - have a player that can just win us a game on his own, without help.

The likes of Lallana and Firmino can't do it, they have no pace. Origi isn't reliable.

He's talking about a player like Owen (Arsenal cup final), Suarez, Gerrard (countless times) or Torres. One simple pass over the top, or burst through the lines and a nerveless finish, and a victory can be snatched from nowhere, undeserved.

All great teams have one or two of that sort of player.

That's what he thinks we lack, and he's got a point.

Yep, but I know Ryan knows that he's just never gonna admit it.

Watching every goal Torres scored for us followed by every goal Suarez scored and finally Gerrard on LFC tv makes me weep.

So many fucking goals out of absolutely nothing and currently with the players available we just don't have anyone that can do that and it could be the difference between 2nd and 1st come May.
 
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