Another potential 6month loan deal?
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I'd take 'em both in a second. Both proven winners and they'd improve our 'pothibilities' tremendously.
Well, he fits the usual Benitez free signing mould: ie fucking slow with his best years well behind him.
Hmm, I'm not sure about this loan signings of past-it ex-rivals thing. I hate RVN and I dislike Gudjohnsen, and the whole thing smacks of desperation. It also seems a poor reward for Wash's current form.
If Babel leaves, I think we need to replace him - but preferably with someone fast and young who can play LW if necessary. And no, I don't have any suggestions.
If Babel leaves, I think we need to replace him - but preferably with someone fast and young who can play LW if necessary. And no, I don't have any suggestions.
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I'd take 'em both in a second. Both proven winners and they'd improve our 'pothibilities' tremendously.
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I thought you were a believer in giving youth a chance?
I'd take 'em both in a second. Both proven winners and they'd improve our 'pothibilities' tremendously.
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I thought you were a believer in giving youth a chance?
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=37974.msg1016003#msg1016003 date=1261047430]
If Babel leaves, I think we need to replace him - but preferably with someone fast and young who can play LW if necessary. And no, I don't have any suggestions.
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Elia from Hamburg. Any such option would require money though.
If Babel leaves, I think we need to replace him - but preferably with someone fast and young who can play LW if necessary. And no, I don't have any suggestions.
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Elia from Hamburg. Any such option would require money though.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=37974.msg1016003#msg1016003 date=1261047430]
Hmm, I'm not sure about this loan signings of past-it ex-rivals thing. I hate RVN and I dislike Gudjohnsen, and the whole thing smacks of desperation. It also seems a poor reward for Wash's current form.
If Babel leaves, I think we need to replace him - but preferably with someone fast and young who can play LW if necessary. And no, I don't have any suggestions.
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I agree. If we get rid of Voronin and get an old striker in then I can live with that. We're not losing a great deal there. Noone's gonna pay much for Voronin anyway.
But if we get rid of other players for a fee and spend that money on the wages of old loan signings then its a situation that won't be sustainable. However poor they might be at times people like Babel and Dossena are essentially saleable assets.
Hmm, I'm not sure about this loan signings of past-it ex-rivals thing. I hate RVN and I dislike Gudjohnsen, and the whole thing smacks of desperation. It also seems a poor reward for Wash's current form.
If Babel leaves, I think we need to replace him - but preferably with someone fast and young who can play LW if necessary. And no, I don't have any suggestions.
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I agree. If we get rid of Voronin and get an old striker in then I can live with that. We're not losing a great deal there. Noone's gonna pay much for Voronin anyway.
But if we get rid of other players for a fee and spend that money on the wages of old loan signings then its a situation that won't be sustainable. However poor they might be at times people like Babel and Dossena are essentially saleable assets.
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[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=37974.msg1015970#msg1015970 date=1261042854]
I'd take 'em both in a second. Both proven winners and they'd improve our 'pothibilities' tremendously.
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I thought you were a believer in giving youth a chance?
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I am ... but I also am trying to be realisitc, I cannot see Rafa giving our kids a go if he's 'guaranteed' 4th place (well besides Ngog, who's earned it, and Lucas)
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=37974.msg1015970#msg1015970 date=1261042854]
I'd take 'em both in a second. Both proven winners and they'd improve our 'pothibilities' tremendously.
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I thought you were a believer in giving youth a chance?
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I am ... but I also am trying to be realisitc, I cannot see Rafa giving our kids a go if he's 'guaranteed' 4th place (well besides Ngog, who's earned it, and Lucas)
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[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=37974.msg1015970#msg1015970 date=1261042854]
I'd take 'em both in a second. Both proven winners and they'd improve our 'pothibilities' tremendously.
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I thought you were a believer in giving youth a chance?
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I am ... but I also am trying to be realisitc, I cannot see Rafa giving our kids a go if he's 'guaranteed' 4th place (well besides Ngog, who's earned it, and Lucas)
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He'd have no choice if we sold four fringe players and didn't replace them.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=37974.msg1016006#msg1016006 date=1261047471]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=37974.msg1015970#msg1015970 date=1261042854]
I'd take 'em both in a second. Both proven winners and they'd improve our 'pothibilities' tremendously.
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I thought you were a believer in giving youth a chance?
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I am ... but I also am trying to be realisitc, I cannot see Rafa giving our kids a go if he's 'guaranteed' 4th place (well besides Ngog, who's earned it, and Lucas)
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He'd have no choice if we sold four fringe players and didn't replace them.
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[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=37974.msg1016031#msg1016031 date=1261050698]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=37974.msg1016006#msg1016006 date=1261047471]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=37974.msg1015970#msg1015970 date=1261042854]
I'd take 'em both in a second. Both proven winners and they'd improve our 'pothibilities' tremendously.
[/quote]
I thought you were a believer in giving youth a chance?
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I am ... but I also am trying to be realisitc, I cannot see Rafa giving our kids a go if he's 'guaranteed' 4th place (well besides Ngog, who's earned it, and Lucas)
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He'd have no choice if we sold four fringe players and didn't replace them.
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I guess ... if that's the case, I'd rather see a Pacheco or Eccleston (both who want to prove themselves) over Gudjohnson and Kelly given more minutes. But I think a RvN is a must just in case Torres struggles for fitness. I know he's an ex-Manc, but RvN will produce the goods and will come relatively cheap it seems.
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=37974.msg1016006#msg1016006 date=1261047471]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=37974.msg1015970#msg1015970 date=1261042854]
I'd take 'em both in a second. Both proven winners and they'd improve our 'pothibilities' tremendously.
[/quote]
I thought you were a believer in giving youth a chance?
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I am ... but I also am trying to be realisitc, I cannot see Rafa giving our kids a go if he's 'guaranteed' 4th place (well besides Ngog, who's earned it, and Lucas)
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He'd have no choice if we sold four fringe players and didn't replace them.
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I guess ... if that's the case, I'd rather see a Pacheco or Eccleston (both who want to prove themselves) over Gudjohnson and Kelly given more minutes. But I think a RvN is a must just in case Torres struggles for fitness. I know he's an ex-Manc, but RvN will produce the goods and will come relatively cheap it seems.
Quite a few RvN links today saying we are close to a deal. Fingers tightly crossed - he will score a lot of goals for us if he comes here.
GJ - yes I would take him, not only does he get his name on the scoresheet but he is an excellent creator of goals for his team-mates too.
OUT from 1st Team Squad : Babel, Voronin, Dossena
INTO 1st Team Squad : RvN, GJ, Pacheco, Ecclestone
Yes please.
GJ - yes I would take him, not only does he get his name on the scoresheet but he is an excellent creator of goals for his team-mates too.
OUT from 1st Team Squad : Babel, Voronin, Dossena
INTO 1st Team Squad : RvN, GJ, Pacheco, Ecclestone
Yes please.
Good post Froggy.
Not seen him for a couple of seasons but I wanted us to go after him then when he was getting scant games at Barca.
I know times have changed somewhat, but Anelka's the only loan player I remember and that was with a view to a permananent transfer. Do you think we'd seriously be looking at either RvN or EG with a permanent transfer in mind.
Having said that, one of the reaons I was happy with the Keane signing despite his age was that we have talent ready to come through. This would be in the same vein - a stopgap while that youth develops.
Having said that, one of the reaons I was happy with the Keane signing despite his age was that we have talent ready to come through. This would be in the same vein - a stopgap while that youth develops.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=37974.msg1016003#msg1016003 date=1261047430]
Hmm, I'm not sure about this loan signings of past-it ex-rivals thing. I hate RVN and I dislike Gudjohnsen, and the whole thing smacks of desperation. It also seems a poor reward for Wash's current form.
If Babel leaves, I think we need to replace him - but preferably with someone fast and young who can play LW if necessary. And no, I don't have any suggestions.
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There is a reason for that Bunster.............................
Hmm, I'm not sure about this loan signings of past-it ex-rivals thing. I hate RVN and I dislike Gudjohnsen, and the whole thing smacks of desperation. It also seems a poor reward for Wash's current form.
If Babel leaves, I think we need to replace him - but preferably with someone fast and young who can play LW if necessary. And no, I don't have any suggestions.
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There is a reason for that Bunster.............................
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37974.msg1015997#msg1015997 date=1261046630]
Well, he fits the usual Benitez free signing mould: ie fucking slow with his best years well behind him.
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Name anyone on a fre that hasn't run down his contract just to move to Real Madrid that isn't slow with his best years behind him?
Well, he fits the usual Benitez free signing mould: ie fucking slow with his best years well behind him.
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Name anyone on a fre that hasn't run down his contract just to move to Real Madrid that isn't slow with his best years behind him?
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37974.msg1015997#msg1015997 date=1261046630]
Well, he fits the usual Benitez free signing mould: ie fucking slow with his best years well behind him.
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Name anyone on a fre that hasn't run down his contract just to move to Real Madrid that isn't slow with his best years behind him?
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Daniel Sturridge.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37974.msg1015997#msg1015997 date=1261046630]
Well, he fits the usual Benitez free signing mould: ie fucking slow with his best years well behind him.
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Name anyone on a fre that hasn't run down his contract just to move to Real Madrid that isn't slow with his best years behind him?
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Daniel Sturridge.
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37974.msg1015997#msg1015997 date=1261046630]
Well, he fits the usual Benitez free signing mould: ie fucking slow with his best years well behind him.
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Name anyone on a fre that hasn't run down his contract just to move to Real Madrid that isn't slow with his best years behind him?
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What point are you trying to make?
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37974.msg1015997#msg1015997 date=1261046630]
Well, he fits the usual Benitez free signing mould: ie fucking slow with his best years well behind him.
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Name anyone on a fre that hasn't run down his contract just to move to Real Madrid that isn't slow with his best years behind him?
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What point are you trying to make?
A year or two ago I would have loved to get Eidur here. Not so much anymore.
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37974.msg1015997#msg1015997 date=1261046630]
Well, he fits the usual Benitez free signing mould: ie fucking slow with his best years well behind him.
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Name anyone on a fre that hasn't run down his contract just to move to Real Madrid that isn't slow with his best years behind him?
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What point are you trying to make?
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There FREE because there best days are behind them and there slow, if they wasn't the club would want cash for them FFS its not Rocket Science!
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37974.msg1015997#msg1015997 date=1261046630]
Well, he fits the usual Benitez free signing mould: ie fucking slow with his best years well behind him.
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Name anyone on a fre that hasn't run down his contract just to move to Real Madrid that isn't slow with his best years behind him?
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What point are you trying to make?
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There FREE because there best days are behind them and there slow, if they wasn't the club would want cash for them FFS its not Rocket Science!
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Sol Campbell was a pretty good free signing for Arsenal.
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That's not the kinde of FREE signing Benites likes though is it?
He likes shit journeymen who he thinks will be happy sat on the bench.
Sol Campbell was a pretty good free signing for Arsenal.
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That's not the kinde of FREE signing Benites likes though is it?
He likes shit journeymen who he thinks will be happy sat on the bench.
Way to miss the point
Rashid - welcome back. Please don't bog every thread down about your hatred, whether right or wrong, for Rafa or you'll end up taking the same path as Rage.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=37974.msg1016603#msg1016603 date=1261127965]
Rashid - welcome back. Please don't bog every thread down about your hatred, whether right or wrong, for Rafa or you'll end up taking the same path as Rage.
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Cool.... I think if argued well, without abuse or personal abuse for the manager/players, fellow forumites I don't see the problem? Now is the time to be critical is it not? Or do we go all Tomkinsesque?
Rashid - welcome back. Please don't bog every thread down about your hatred, whether right or wrong, for Rafa or you'll end up taking the same path as Rage.
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Cool.... I think if argued well, without abuse or personal abuse for the manager/players, fellow forumites I don't see the problem? Now is the time to be critical is it not? Or do we go all Tomkinsesque?
[quote author=Rashid link=topic=37974.msg1016605#msg1016605 date=1261128084]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=37974.msg1016603#msg1016603 date=1261127965]
Rashid - welcome back. Please don't bog every thread down about your hatred, whether right or wrong, for Rafa or you'll end up taking the same path as Rage.
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Cool.... I think if argued well, without abuse or personal abuse for the manager/players, fellow forumites I don't see the problem? Now is the time to be critical is it not? Or do we go all Tomkinsesque?
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No issues as long as we don't see every thread, even if it's about haircuts or about Marco Van Basten's goal in '88, become a "Rafa is shit" thread.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=37974.msg1016603#msg1016603 date=1261127965]
Rashid - welcome back. Please don't bog every thread down about your hatred, whether right or wrong, for Rafa or you'll end up taking the same path as Rage.
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Cool.... I think if argued well, without abuse or personal abuse for the manager/players, fellow forumites I don't see the problem? Now is the time to be critical is it not? Or do we go all Tomkinsesque?
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No issues as long as we don't see every thread, even if it's about haircuts or about Marco Van Basten's goal in '88, become a "Rafa is shit" thread.
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[quote author=Rashid link=topic=37974.msg1016605#msg1016605 date=1261128084]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=37974.msg1016603#msg1016603 date=1261127965]
Rashid - welcome back. Please don't bog every thread down about your hatred, whether right or wrong, for Rafa or you'll end up taking the same path as Rage.
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Cool.... I think if argued well, without abuse or personal abuse for the manager/players, fellow forumites I don't see the problem? Now is the time to be critical is it not? Or do we go all Tomkinsesque?
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No issues as long as we don't see every thread, even if it's about haircuts or about Marco Van Basten's goal in '88, become a "Rafa is shit" thread.
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Cool, understood.
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[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=37974.msg1016603#msg1016603 date=1261127965]
Rashid - welcome back. Please don't bog every thread down about your hatred, whether right or wrong, for Rafa or you'll end up taking the same path as Rage.
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Cool.... I think if argued well, without abuse or personal abuse for the manager/players, fellow forumites I don't see the problem? Now is the time to be critical is it not? Or do we go all Tomkinsesque?
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No issues as long as we don't see every thread, even if it's about haircuts or about Marco Van Basten's goal in '88, become a "Rafa is shit" thread.
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Cool, understood.
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