so who'll score more (per game), Carroll or Suarez?
Andy Carroll - Liverpools Number 9.
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I think Carroll will fail. I've said it. I have a bad feeling about this.
He's got the raw talent but I don't think he has the mentality to be a top class player.
At this moment I feel like Han Solo coming out of hyperspace to find Alderan destroyed and something not right about that small moon in the distance.
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I think he'll do well. If anyone can get the best out of him Kenny will
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carrol strikes me as the type of player that will help the team even when he isn't scoring, let's be honest here (and this isn't sourgrapes) but Torres was a bit of a waste of space when he wasn't scoring and sulking.
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But Torres was only sulking cause he wasn't getting the service Neil. You told us. 🙂
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true. Torres was definately feeding on scraps but his work rate was unacceptable and he was also playing for himself, choosing to take on too many players when a simple pass would suffice.
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He did shaft us badly this season.
Roy Hodgson must hold him in very high regard too
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I think Carroll will fail. I've said it. I have a bad feeling about this.
He's got the raw talent but I don't think he has the mentality to be a top class player.
At this moment I feel like Han Solo coming out of hyperspace to find Alderan destroyed and something not right about that small moon in the distance.
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I think he'll do well. If anyone can get the best out of him Kenny will
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carrol strikes me as the type of player that will help the team even when he isn't scoring, let's be honest here (and this isn't sourgrapes) but Torres was a bit of a waste of space when he wasn't scoring and sulking.
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But Torres was only sulking cause he wasn't getting the service Neil. You told us. 🙂
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true. Torres was definately feeding on scraps but his work rate was unacceptable and he was also playing for himself, choosing to take on too many players when a simple pass would suffice.
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He did shaft us badly this season.
Roy Hodgson must hold him in very high regard too
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so who'll score more (per game), Carroll or Suarez?
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I think carrol is going to fill his boots and get a shed load of assists into the bargin...
next season. I don't think you'll see the best of carrol until we get at least one quality winger. so this season I think suarez will score more than carrol.
so who'll score more (per game), Carroll or Suarez?
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I think carrol is going to fill his boots and get a shed load of assists into the bargin...
next season. I don't think you'll see the best of carrol until we get at least one quality winger. so this season I think suarez will score more than carrol.
Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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Not read back before this page so don't know if this has been posted - but he's not going to be available for a few weeks.
"Liverpool forward Andy Carroll, who signed from Newcastle on Monday, is unlikely to play for several weeks because of an existing thigh injury.
The 22-year-old has been sidelined since the Magpies' 2-0 defeat by Tottenham on 28 December.
"He's got a bit of a knock and is probably a few weeks away," said Reds boss Kenny Dalglish. "
{Apols if it's been done already}
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Yeah unfortunately this was confirmed by an interview with Pardew who said that he's hoping Newcastle won't regret not having Carroll when he's back fit in a few weeks time. As long as he's back by March 6th so he can destroy Vidic/Ferdinand.
Not read back before this page so don't know if this has been posted - but he's not going to be available for a few weeks.
"Liverpool forward Andy Carroll, who signed from Newcastle on Monday, is unlikely to play for several weeks because of an existing thigh injury.
The 22-year-old has been sidelined since the Magpies' 2-0 defeat by Tottenham on 28 December.
"He's got a bit of a knock and is probably a few weeks away," said Reds boss Kenny Dalglish. "
{Apols if it's been done already}
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Yeah unfortunately this was confirmed by an interview with Pardew who said that he's hoping Newcastle won't regret not having Carroll when he's back fit in a few weeks time. As long as he's back by March 6th so he can destroy Vidic/Ferdinand.
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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hope that puts to bed the notion he is a just a one dimensional target man.
I would also say the service he received from n'castle in that game looks better than the service he will recieve here purely because they were crossing accurately to him.
Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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hope that puts to bed the notion he is a just a one dimensional target man.
I would also say the service he received from n'castle in that game looks better than the service he will recieve here purely because they were crossing accurately to him.
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I'd love to see some of that stuff in the red shirt. An immense game by the lad.
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Shanks would have described Carroll as a colossus and invited the press to come and have a walk around him.
I'd love to see some of that stuff in the red shirt. An immense game by the lad.
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Shanks would have described Carroll as a colossus and invited the press to come and have a walk around him.
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The pass he plays for his third goal is effortless, one of the goals of the season right there.
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also the guy has pace which automatically puts him in a class above crouch and he WANTS to win headers, the likes of skrtel and agger should be forced to watch that video over and over, that said they trained with the very best header of the ball I have ever seen and it didn't rub off at all.
The pass he plays for his third goal is effortless, one of the goals of the season right there.
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also the guy has pace which automatically puts him in a class above crouch and he WANTS to win headers, the likes of skrtel and agger should be forced to watch that video over and over, that said they trained with the very best header of the ball I have ever seen and it didn't rub off at all.
Whoever said Crouch has probably played his last games for England has a point. He has the ability to hold the ball up like Crouch and provides a target (though Crouch's heading at goal was feeble by comparison), and like Crouch is good at linking the play, but having pace and strength puts him on a different level altogether.
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
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Macca definitely could do either! One of my all time favourites.
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
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Macca definitely could do either! One of my all time favourites.
n'castle have taken a bit of a risk though, they have sold their only recognised striker and if they struggle for goals it's a possibility they may go down and that will cost them far more then 35m. fortunately for n'castle there are definately 3 worse teams then them.
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
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I assume that by "Macca" you mean McMahon. Most fans that I know would mean McMoneyman, who I can't see saying this (even if he had, it wouldn't have been true at that time).
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
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I assume that by "Macca" you mean McMahon. Most fans that I know would mean McMoneyman, who I can't see saying this (even if he had, it wouldn't have been true at that time).
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
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I assume that by "Macca" you mean McMahon. Most fans that I know would mean McMoneyman, who I can't see saying this (even if he had, it wouldn't have been true at that time).
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It was Mcmahon. But it was true in the 70's and 80's. We had players who had ability and steel.
Ray Kennedy
Graeme Souness
Jimmy Case
Emylyn Hughes
Phil Thompson
Dalglish - I remember Moran smashing his cheekbone and Kenny still wanting to play on
Liverpool could and did mix it on the pitch back then. That's one of the reasons we were so successful, we didn't just have a plan A.
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
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I assume that by "Macca" you mean McMahon. Most fans that I know would mean McMoneyman, who I can't see saying this (even if he had, it wouldn't have been true at that time).
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It was Mcmahon. But it was true in the 70's and 80's. We had players who had ability and steel.
Ray Kennedy
Graeme Souness
Jimmy Case
Emylyn Hughes
Phil Thompson
Dalglish - I remember Moran smashing his cheekbone and Kenny still wanting to play on
Liverpool could and did mix it on the pitch back then. That's one of the reasons we were so successful, we didn't just have a plan A.
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
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I assume that by "Macca" you mean McMahon. Most fans that I know would mean McMoneyman, who I can't see saying this (even if he had, it wouldn't have been true at that time).
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It was Mcmahon. But it was true in the 70's and 80's. We had players who had ability and steel.
Ray Kennedy
Graeme Souness
Jimmy Case
Emylyn Hughes
Phil Thompson
Dalglish - I remember Moran smashing his cheekbone and Kenny still wanting to play on
Liverpool could and did mix it on the pitch back then. That's one of the reasons we were so successful, we didn't just have a plan A.
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don't know if I'm that' bothered about players being HARD I'm more interested in players that want the ball even when things are going tits up, winners who don't hide and make it their personal reposibility to win games rather than giving the task to the 'star' player.
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
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I assume that by "Macca" you mean McMahon. Most fans that I know would mean McMoneyman, who I can't see saying this (even if he had, it wouldn't have been true at that time).
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It was Mcmahon. But it was true in the 70's and 80's. We had players who had ability and steel.
Ray Kennedy
Graeme Souness
Jimmy Case
Emylyn Hughes
Phil Thompson
Dalglish - I remember Moran smashing his cheekbone and Kenny still wanting to play on
Liverpool could and did mix it on the pitch back then. That's one of the reasons we were so successful, we didn't just have a plan A.
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don't know if I'm that' bothered about players being HARD I'm more interested in players that want the ball even when things are going tits up, winners who don't hide and make it their personal reposibility to win games rather than giving the task to the 'star' player.
Yup, McMahon. I think most in Asia don't associate Macca with McMoneyman much these days. Whereas McMahon's been a sports pundit here for a good five years or more now and is such a great and honest personality to have on the tele. You can see the frustration in him when the football is shite, and he doesn't hold back on his criticism.
And the way he speaks so passionately about Liverpool, it's hard not to like him.
And the way he speaks so passionately about Liverpool, it's hard not to like him.
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Yup, McMahon. I think most in Asia don't associate Macca with McMoneyman much these days. Whereas McMahon's been a sports pundit here for a good five years or more now and is such a great and honest personality to have on the tele. You can see the frustration in him when the football is shite, and he doesn't hold back on his criticism.
And the way he speaks so passionately about Liverpool, it's hard not to like him.
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For someone who was a boyhood blue and started out at Everton as a Ball boy, and ended up as Captain, it shows the pull of Liverpool FC.
Yup, McMahon. I think most in Asia don't associate Macca with McMoneyman much these days. Whereas McMahon's been a sports pundit here for a good five years or more now and is such a great and honest personality to have on the tele. You can see the frustration in him when the football is shite, and he doesn't hold back on his criticism.
And the way he speaks so passionately about Liverpool, it's hard not to like him.
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For someone who was a boyhood blue and started out at Everton as a Ball boy, and ended up as Captain, it shows the pull of Liverpool FC.
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
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I assume that by "Macca" you mean McMahon. Most fans that I know would mean McMoneyman, who I can't see saying this (even if he had, it wouldn't have been true at that time).
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It was Mcmahon. But it was true in the 70's and 80's. We had players who had ability and steel.
Ray Kennedy
Graeme Souness
Jimmy Case
Emylyn Hughes
Phil Thompson
Dalglish - I remember Moran smashing his cheekbone and Kenny still wanting to play on
Liverpool could and did mix it on the pitch back then. That's one of the reasons we were so successful, we didn't just have a plan A.
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don't know if I'm that' bothered about players being HARD I'm more interested in players that want the ball even when things are going tits up, winners who don't hide and make it their personal reposibility to win games rather than giving the task to the 'star' player.
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But all of those players had that mentaility. I'm not sure what your point is Neil.
How many players in our team now have the mentality of any of those (and others) named above. More times than I care to mention have I watched LFC players give up in the last season and a half. Winner don't quit and quitters never win. The LFC of yesteryear had winners from 1 to 11.
Its been a long time since we had anywhere near that.
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
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I assume that by "Macca" you mean McMahon. Most fans that I know would mean McMoneyman, who I can't see saying this (even if he had, it wouldn't have been true at that time).
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It was Mcmahon. But it was true in the 70's and 80's. We had players who had ability and steel.
Ray Kennedy
Graeme Souness
Jimmy Case
Emylyn Hughes
Phil Thompson
Dalglish - I remember Moran smashing his cheekbone and Kenny still wanting to play on
Liverpool could and did mix it on the pitch back then. That's one of the reasons we were so successful, we didn't just have a plan A.
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don't know if I'm that' bothered about players being HARD I'm more interested in players that want the ball even when things are going tits up, winners who don't hide and make it their personal reposibility to win games rather than giving the task to the 'star' player.
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But all of those players had that mentaility. I'm not sure what your point is Neil.
How many players in our team now have the mentality of any of those (and others) named above. More times than I care to mention have I watched LFC players give up in the last season and a half. Winner don't quit and quitters never win. The LFC of yesteryear had winners from 1 to 11.
Its been a long time since we had anywhere near that.
Am I A £35m Striker?
I scored 24 goals helping my side win promotion back to the Premier League aged just 22.
Then in my first season in the top flight I had bagged an impressive 15 goals by the end of January. Including a goal against the reigning champions, away at Arsenal and in a home win over Liverpool. My form earned me an England call-up and my debut in an international friendly.
Am a I £35m striker?
No I am Michael Ricketts, February 2002.
I scored 24 goals helping my side win promotion back to the Premier League aged just 22.
Then in my first season in the top flight I had bagged an impressive 15 goals by the end of January. Including a goal against the reigning champions, away at Arsenal and in a home win over Liverpool. My form earned me an England call-up and my debut in an international friendly.
Am a I £35m striker?
No I am Michael Ricketts, February 2002.
Ouch.
Michael Ricketts did look great back then, though.
Michael Ricketts did look great back then, though.
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
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I assume that by "Macca" you mean McMahon. Most fans that I know would mean McMoneyman, who I can't see saying this (even if he had, it wouldn't have been true at that time).
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It was Mcmahon. But it was true in the 70's and 80's. We had players who had ability and steel.
Ray Kennedy
Graeme Souness
Jimmy Case
Emylyn Hughes
Phil Thompson
Dalglish - I remember Moran smashing his cheekbone and Kenny still wanting to play on
Liverpool could and did mix it on the pitch back then. That's one of the reasons we were so successful, we didn't just have a plan A.
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don't know if I'm that' bothered about players being HARD I'm more interested in players that want the ball even when things are going tits up, winners who don't hide and make it their personal reposibility to win games rather than giving the task to the 'star' player.
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But all of those players had that mentaility. I'm not sure what your point is Neil.
How many players in our team now have the mentality of any of those (and others) named above. More times than I care to mention have I watched LFC players give up in the last season and a half. Winner don't quit and quitters never win. The LFC of yesteryear had winners from 1 to 11.
Its been a long time since we had anywhere near that.
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I agree.
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Compilation of Carroll against Villa. Gives a great sense of his strengths, which are varied. Interesting.
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankakabaros/andy-carroll-match-compilation-v-aston-villa-22082010-video_3fce6f53e.html
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He's such a fighter, isn't he. Macca mentioned that during his playing days, teams would come to Anfield either to play football or to fight. But it didn't matter which it was, because the players could do either. I was too young to remember the great Liverpool teams of past, but I do hope that Kenny's able to turn back the clock and show us what Liverpool used to and can be like.
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I assume that by "Macca" you mean McMahon. Most fans that I know would mean McMoneyman, who I can't see saying this (even if he had, it wouldn't have been true at that time).
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It was Mcmahon. But it was true in the 70's and 80's. We had players who had ability and steel.
Ray Kennedy
Graeme Souness
Jimmy Case
Emylyn Hughes
Phil Thompson
Dalglish - I remember Moran smashing his cheekbone and Kenny still wanting to play on
Liverpool could and did mix it on the pitch back then. That's one of the reasons we were so successful, we didn't just have a plan A.
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don't know if I'm that' bothered about players being HARD I'm more interested in players that want the ball even when things are going tits up, winners who don't hide and make it their personal reposibility to win games rather than giving the task to the 'star' player.
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But all of those players had that mentaility. I'm not sure what your point is Neil.
How many players in our team now have the mentality of any of those (and others) named above. More times than I care to mention have I watched LFC players give up in the last season and a half. Winner don't quit and quitters never win. The LFC of yesteryear had winners from 1 to 11.
Its been a long time since we had anywhere near that.
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I agree.
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Ouch.
Michael Ricketts did look great back then, though.
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carrol looks a class apart from ricketts, time will tell though.
Ouch.
Michael Ricketts did look great back then, though.
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carrol looks a class apart from ricketts, time will tell though.
ouch.
I'll be honest Neil, I'm very apprehensive about this deal. He does look good, and will always give 100%. But it's a lot of money to spend on largely unproven potential.
Cautiously optimistic.
Cautiously optimistic.
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Am I A £35m Striker?
I scored 24 goals helping my side win promotion back to the Premier League aged just 22.
Then in my first season in the top flight I had bagged an impressive 15 goals by the end of January. Including a goal against the reigning champions, away at Arsenal and in a home win over Liverpool. My form earned me an England call-up and my debut in an international friendly.
Am a I £35m striker?
No I am Michael Ricketts, February 2002.
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Am I a great striker? I scored 23 in 118 games before Kenny Dalglish signed me.
Am I David Speedie? No, I'm Alan Shearer
Am I A £35m Striker?
I scored 24 goals helping my side win promotion back to the Premier League aged just 22.
Then in my first season in the top flight I had bagged an impressive 15 goals by the end of January. Including a goal against the reigning champions, away at Arsenal and in a home win over Liverpool. My form earned me an England call-up and my debut in an international friendly.
Am a I £35m striker?
No I am Michael Ricketts, February 2002.
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Am I a great striker? I scored 23 in 118 games before Kenny Dalglish signed me.
Am I David Speedie? No, I'm Alan Shearer
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[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=43933.msg1275598#msg1275598 date=1296653414]
Am I A £35m Striker?
I scored 24 goals helping my side win promotion back to the Premier League aged just 22.
Then in my first season in the top flight I had bagged an impressive 15 goals by the end of January. Including a goal against the reigning champions, away at Arsenal and in a home win over Liverpool. My form earned me an England call-up and my debut in an international friendly.
Am a I £35m striker?
No I am Michael Ricketts, February 2002.
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Am I a great striker? I scored 23 in 118 games before Kenny Dalglish signed me.
Am I David Speedie? No, I'm Alan Shearer
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good one, sunny 🙂
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=43933.msg1275598#msg1275598 date=1296653414]
Am I A £35m Striker?
I scored 24 goals helping my side win promotion back to the Premier League aged just 22.
Then in my first season in the top flight I had bagged an impressive 15 goals by the end of January. Including a goal against the reigning champions, away at Arsenal and in a home win over Liverpool. My form earned me an England call-up and my debut in an international friendly.
Am a I £35m striker?
No I am Michael Ricketts, February 2002.
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Am I a great striker? I scored 23 in 118 games before Kenny Dalglish signed me.
Am I David Speedie? No, I'm Alan Shearer
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good one, sunny 🙂
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Ouch.
Michael Ricketts did look great back then, though.
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Not to the Bolton fans. I was at a Bolton v Gillingham game the year they got promoted and Ricketts was already on about 25 goals for the season. Bolton were 1-0 up but there was a lot of booing going on by the home fans. I sked the Bolton fan beside me and he said that they always Boo Ricketts because of his general attitude and lack of effort!
He also said that Bolton fans were amazed that Ricketts was getting so much attention because they saw him every week and DESPITE his goals they weren't fussed for him.
He correctly predicted that Bolton would sell him as soon as they got a decent offer. I saw Ricketts many times after that game and the fan was correct he was a liability and his initial goalscoring feat was an anomaly.
Ouch.
Michael Ricketts did look great back then, though.
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Not to the Bolton fans. I was at a Bolton v Gillingham game the year they got promoted and Ricketts was already on about 25 goals for the season. Bolton were 1-0 up but there was a lot of booing going on by the home fans. I sked the Bolton fan beside me and he said that they always Boo Ricketts because of his general attitude and lack of effort!
He also said that Bolton fans were amazed that Ricketts was getting so much attention because they saw him every week and DESPITE his goals they weren't fussed for him.
He correctly predicted that Bolton would sell him as soon as they got a decent offer. I saw Ricketts many times after that game and the fan was correct he was a liability and his initial goalscoring feat was an anomaly.
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