Andre Villa Boas

[Rosco]

Is he any good ?

I find it hard to decide.

FC Porto reduce the managers job to gameday stuff and leave their technical staff to deal with transfers. And their transfer strategy plays a huge part in their success. It's not unusual for well run clubs to make managers look good, cf Steve McClaren at FC Twente.

Conversely the club a manager takes over can easily make him look bad, AVB is already under pressure from the media because of Chelsea's poor start to the season and while I think his tactics certainly play a part in that I think it's only a small part. Chelsea have an ageing squad of players, a good chunk of who are dining on past glories. I'd include Cech, Terry, Essien, Lampard, Anelka and to a certain extent Drogba. Throw in some expensive past transfers that haven't quite worked out: Torres, Luiz, Boswinga, Mikel, Ramires and you've got a bit of a shitstorm.

I think Chelsea are where we were not too long ago (and possibly still are), suffering from years of bad decision making in the handing out of contracts and transfer spending. None of that is AVB's fault. Yet he takes the brunt of the stick , hardly fair is it ?

 

[Fabio]

true, he's walked in to a ready made noose

and ramires is beast.

 

[DHSC]

I thought he has been sacked.

Yes it's not fair to blame AVB but a good manager should also know what tactics to use based on the players he has. AVB was appointed in pre-season and that should have given him plenty of time to decide what tactics to put out. We can safely assume that he's not being forced to play certain players by Abramocunt as evidenced by his benching of Torres, so he does have a certain degree of free rein. I think his flaw is that he's being too obstinate on insisting his team to play a certain way. He should tailor his tactics for now, then wait til Jan to get the players he wants to play the way he wants.

 

[HC]

Good post.

It would be amazing if they finished outside of the top 4 this season.

Incidentally, the amount of chelsea fans you see now compared to 24 months ago is miniscule in comparison.

 

[Fabio]

question is, will he get sacked if they don't get they knock out stage?

 

[Ossi]

He won´t be given the time he needs to sort the squad and tactics out.
No way. Hiddink as caretaker for the rest of the season.

 

[DHSC]

[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47641.msg1431421#msg1431421 date=1322126969]
question is, will he get sacked if they don't get they knock out stage?
[/quote]

He shouldn't but I wouldn't be surprised.

Hiddink's in the wings, so it is a possiblity.

 

[Athens]

I reckon he will be given this season, don't think he will get sacked if they don't reach the knock out stage. He's going to need a great second half of the season to keep his job though, no matter what. If they don't reach the knock out stage then he really needs a great run of results to keep him in the job. If they do reach the knock out stage I reckon they will get dumped out sooner rather than later, and he will still need a great second part to the season.

Who did he bring with him? Rameires?

 

[DHSC]

AVB only made 2 signings I think.

Mata and that Belgian keeper who's out on loan now.

Edit: I forgot Mei-fucking-reles. :🙂

 

[Whitey85]

He should be doing better with the players he has available to him. It's nobody elses fault but his for the way he is setting the team up to play on match days. You work to find the best solution with the players you have. At the minute hes doing a Hodgson at Liverpool, playing tactics that don't suit the personnel at his disposal but unwilling to change his ways. The crouching bellend.

As for his credentials - I don't think winning the portuguese league was particularly difficult when rivals Benfica have sold Di Maria, Ramires, Luiz and whoever else in the past couple of years. The Uefa cup was a decent achievement in fairness.

 

[Modo]

[quote author=DHSC link=topic=47641.msg1431438#msg1431438 date=1322127494]
AVB only made 2 signings I think.

Mata and that Belgian keeper who's out on loan now.

Edit: I forgot Mei-fucking-reles. :🙂
[/quote]

Lukaku??

 

[RedZeppelin]

Be interesting to see how this pans out .....ok he had an amazing season with Porto but bar that he's very inexperienced . When he was linked with us the odd time , i always thought i'd prefer for him to go somewhere else , like a Valencia or A.Madrid , prove himself there first and gain some experience .

He does keep talking about how the club are trying to change tactics and rebuild to a degree so will be interesting to see if Roman really sees it that way and is willing to be patient . I somehow doubt it .

Anyway he's a bit of an arrogant cock at a cunt of a club so i've no sympathy for him .

 

[Ossi]

[quote author=Modo link=topic=47641.msg1431451#msg1431451 date=1322128264]
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=47641.msg1431438#msg1431438 date=1322127494]
AVB only made 2 signings I think.

Mata and that Belgian keeper who's out on loan now.

Edit: I forgot Mei-fucking-reles. :🙂
[/quote]

Lukaku??
[/quote]

Yes. Strange signing for alot of money considering who are infront of him in the pecking order.

An ageing Drogba
Sturridge
An out of form Torres
Anelka

 

[Sunny]

A strange signing who shitloads on here were advocating as the next great thing and we should be signing him yet is struggling to get a game at Chelsea. A Chelsea where their strikers couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo

 

[Bradley]

It's a perfect storm sort of situation for any manager at Chelsea, no matter what experience they have.

An influential captain who seems to have a bigger say in things than he should and is also either in really bad form or career is on the downward spiral.

A few goal machines in Lampard and Drogba who are also starting to get past it.

Some kind of behind the scenes interference, the Ray Wilkins thing from last year.

A club with a fairly short term outlook, he seems to be thinking of things in the long term, i.e a change of mentality/tactics but Chelsea want results now.

I can't help but like him, the arrogant fucker, he lacks the Jose humor or ability to get Chelsea winning but I like him, maybe it's just his age.

He should have stayed away from this job as it's a poison chalice.

 

[DHSC]

[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47641.msg1431458#msg1431458 date=1322128676]
A strange signing who shitloads on here were advocating as the next great thing and we should be signing him yet is struggling to get a game at Chelsea. A Chelsea where their strikers couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo
[/quote]

I wonder if AVB really wanted Lukaku.

 

[keniget]

[quote author=DHSC link=topic=47641.msg1431460#msg1431460 date=1322128997]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=47641.msg1431458#msg1431458 date=1322128676]
A strange signing who shitloads on here were advocating as the next great thing and we should be signing him yet is struggling to get a game at Chelsea. A Chelsea where their strikers couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo
[/quote]

I wonder if AVB really wanted Lukaku.
[/quote]

They'd been chasing him for quite a while what with contact from Drogba and what not so I don't think it was AVB's decision.

As for the rest of it, I agree with Whitey. He is being a little stubborn and should be making better use of the resources at his disposal. He does have ageing players, sure, but he doesn't have to build his team around them.

 

[Mystic]

If he didn't, could we please have Lukaku?

 

[Jürgen4PM]

He's a good manager, i think he just needs time.

Despite their owners previous i suspect he'll get it as well.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

That 'high line' cannot work with the personnel he's trying to make it work with (i.e. Terry). The more he persists with it, the more good teams will beat them. I don't think he can drop Terry - so problematic there.

Other issue I think is that their star players - as Ross mentioned - aren't what they used to be.

Chelsea would be absolute idiots to get rid of him ... but it's Chelsea.

 

[Oncy]

He has a good footballing philosophy, he wants to play the right way. He has a poor team.
The only players who would (imo) get a game for us are Meireles, Sturridge Mata and if fit Essien.
From ours i think Reina, Agger, Johnson, Kelly, Skrtel, Adam, Lucas, Suarez and an if fit Gerrard would walk into their team.
And we are not currently a top 4 side.

 

[spider-Neil]

he's a good manager but he is trying to do too much too quickly.
for instance the high back line, he simply doesn't have the defenders to make it work so rather than defending deep and playing to the strengths he has he implementing a system the players aren't comfortable with.

whinger pretty much kept the defensive structure of the previous manager and then added quality to midfield and attack.

go back to basics, grind out results and then in the jan/summer transfer window purchase players to make your LONG TERM vision work.

 

[keniget]

I don't think they have a poor team, they just need to utilize the players they do have a little better.

Lampard, Malouda and Drogba are on the decline but are still capable on their day.

Cole, Ivanovic, Meireles, Ramires, Luiz, Mata, Sturridge and yes Torres can all play a part in a very capable squad.

They need a CB to replace Terry / Carvahlo and a DM to replace Essien / Makalele.

 

[Mistadobalina]

He has a big problem with crouching. Why's he always crouched down. Can't see fuck all from down there.

 

[Spionkop69]

Must stay!!!!

 

[RolandG]

The only striker doing any damage is Sturridge. Drogba is over the hill, Anelka doesnt get enough game time and is used sparingly and Torres' head is elsewhere. Essien's injury is a massive blow and it doesn't help that Terry is a spent force.

Chelsea are low on confidence.

 

[themn]

I *loved* the mac he was wearing on Sunday.

And his placement of the "Kick It Out" badge was soooo fucking cool !

 

[Bradley]

High defensive line, Chelsea 2011 = Zonal Marking, Liverpool 2005

 

[Modo]

[quote author=RolandG link=topic=47641.msg1431495#msg1431495 date=1322130748]
The only striker doing any damage is Sturridge. Drogba is over the hill, Anelka doesnt get enough game time and is used sparingly and Torres' head is elsewhere. Essien's injury is a massive blow and it doesn't help that Terry is a spent force.

Chelsea are low on confidence.
[/quote]
Torres head is still at Anfield. We should really try to get him back.
It's quite evident that he isn't happy at Chavski.

 

[Buddha]

Only on loan.