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Alvaro Arbeloa

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As for "where the hell is Steven Gerrard?!" well, isn't it at all possible that he was the other side of the pitch being an attacking midfielder?
 
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33546.msg869481#msg869481 date=1242640110]
This thread is silly.

Carra went way over the top, and had it been any other player, we would have all said so.

I agree with the comments about Gerrard though, that was my first thought too, 'Where the hell is he?'. Credit to Alonso and Agger though.
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He was not anywhere close. By the time he got there, Xabi (bless him) had already got things under control.

I thought it was very mature off stevie to stay away. Shows respect to all involved. No need to butt in and show "who da man"...that would have been a bit egotistical.

But i did wish he did what Xabi was doing at the end of the game....Carra needed a stern talking to. His behavior is not acceptable.
 
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15 times?
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I think it should be taken into account that the poster being reported was Le Chacal.
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It would be funny to show us the posts you reported to the mods.
I feel for Sheik 😉
 
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=33546.msg869768#msg869768 date=1242658990]
[quote author=St.Benitez link=topic=33546.msg869713#msg869713 date=1242655284]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33546.msg869709#msg869709 date=1242655058]
15 times?
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I think it should be taken into account that the poster being reported was Le Chacal.
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It would be funny to show us the posts you reported to the mods.
I feel for Sheik 😉
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Yeah like they actually "Check them"... I'm sure they are all stuffed away in a corner of the managers chatroom, gathering dust.
 
Players that are useless in our squad...

carragher - way past his best, should be on the bench. he is slow and just knows how to hoof the ball upfield to the opposition
lucas - he is the shittest brazilian i have ever seen
dossena - fat shit and should go back to italy
degen - waste of space on this earth
Voronin - should just fcuk off back to germany for good
Cavalieri - was a waste of 3mill. we have bouzannis coming through
Itandje - biggest disgrace on this earth
Pennant - should go back to jail, he is pathetic
Leto - he is argentinian? ive never seen a shitter argentinian then him


Players that i rate..

Torres - a legend
Gerrard - unbelievable
Kuyt - didnt rate him until this season, he is 1 of the reasons we are 2nd atm
Alonso - prooved this season he is world class
Mascherano - world class
Agger - Best CB at our club atm. can defend and attack
Skrtel - Solid CB
Riena - 1 of the best keepers in the world
Insua - Should be our starting LB, the kid is good
Benayoun - under-rated. he is a gun
Hyypia - he is a legend
N'gog - he will be a star 1 day, reminds me of trezaguet mixed with anelka
Nemeth - our future ST


and players im not fussed about..
Riera - can be good and bad
babel - is a gun just not with us
arbeloa - is better than most people give him credit for
Aurelio - too many injuries, good when he is fit
 
ohhh and el zhar... dont rate him either. Id rather play with 10men instead of 11 on the pitch
he is crap. dont know why rafa constantly buys shit players
 
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=33546.msg869827#msg869827 date=1242664166]
Players that are useless in our squad...

carragher - way past his best, should be on the bench. he is slow and just knows how to hoof the ball upfield to the opposition
lucas - he is the shittest brazilian i have ever seen
dossena - fat shit and should go back to italy
degen - waste of space on this earth
Voronin - should just fcuk off back to germany for good
Cavalieri - was a waste of 3mill. we have bouzannis coming through
Itandje - biggest disgrace on this earth
Pennant - should go back to jail, he is pathetic
Leto - he is argentinian? ive never seen a shitter argentinian then him


Players that i rate..

Torres - a legend
Gerrard - unbelievable
Kuyt - didnt rate him until this season, he is 1 of the reasons we are 2nd atm
Alonso - prooved this season he is world class
Mascherano - world class
Agger - Best CB at our club atm. can defend and attack
Skrtel - Solid CB
Riena - 1 of the best keepers in the world
Insua - Should be our starting LB, the kid is good
Benayoun - under-rated. he is a gun
Hyypia - he is a legend
N'gog - he will be a star 1 day, reminds me of trezaguet mixed with anelka
Nemeth - our future ST


and players im not fussed about..
Riera - can be good and bad
babel - is a gun just not with us
arbeloa - is better than most people give him credit for
Aurelio - too many injuries, good when he is fit
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You're John Terry, aren't you?
 
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Im not an Arbeloa fan anyway but his performance at the weekend was a disgrace. Carragher's actions were also disgraceful but i could see where he was coming from. When teammates are playing like utter cunts you do have an urge to twat them every now and again, or is that just me?
 
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=33546.msg869876#msg869876 date=1242667914]
Im not an Arbeloa fan anyway but his performance at the weekend was a disgrace. Carragher's actions were also disgraceful but i could see where he was coming from. When teammates are playing like utter cunts you do have an urge to twat them every now and again, or is that just me?
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It's funny how people can watch a game and come away with completely different opinions on it.
I don't think Arbeloa had a good game yesterday, but he wasn't a 'disgrace' in my eyes. He wasn't even that bad.

What did he do to give you that opinion?

I don't remember any crosses coming in from his side.
He didn't give the ball away and he got forward to support Dirk.
 
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[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=33546.msg869876#msg869876 date=1242667914]
Im not an Arbeloa fan anyway but his performance at the weekend was a disgrace. Carragher's actions were also disgraceful but i could see where he was coming from. When teammates are playing like utter cunts you do have an urge to twat them every now and again, or is that just me?
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It's funny how people can watch a game and come away with completely different opinions on it.
I don't think Arbeloa had a good game yesterday, but he wasn't a 'disgrace' in my eyes. He wasn't even that bad.

What did he do to give you that opinion?

I don't remember any crosses coming in from his side.
He didn't give the ball away and he got forward to support Dirk.

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Positioning issues and the way he nods off or feels the need to drift inside to hold Carraghers hand. He was all over the place defensively on Sunday and not in a good way.
 
Arbeloa hasn't changed his game. He is playing now as he has for most of the season, it's just now after his mistakes leading to increased pressure on the defence people are watching more cloasely and seeing how big a liability he can be.
 
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=33546.msg870110#msg870110 date=1242680946]
Arbeloa hasn't changed his game. He is playing now as he has for most of the season, it's just now after his mistakes leading to increased pressure on the defence people are watching more cloasely and seeing how big a liability he can be.
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Errr... no. He's just been playing badly for the latter part of the season. Jamie has been some way off his best of late too. It's no surprise given that they've both played around 50 games this season. Whatever people think of Alvaro, trying to 'back-date' his poor form to a part of the season when he was actually playing very well is folly. Pretty much everyone on this site was satisfied with him halfway through the season (see here for confirmation of this, including a sterling contribution from yourself). Suddenly a poor run of form (coinciding with generally poor form across the entire back line) and he's being written off.

Yes, we can improve on him but he is by no means as bad as you are making out. Whatever happens in the summer, he's well worth hanging on to.
 
I don't care, it's not like I'm the only person who has said it, I just wish people could go back and watch full games online at times.
 
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=33546.msg870133#msg870133 date=1242685158]
I don't care, it's not like I'm the only person who has said it, I just wish people could go back and watch full games online at times.
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Did you read the thread I referred to (and indeed your contribution to it)? It was around halfway through the season and you described him as 'mustard'. So to suggest that he's been playing badly all season is, by your own reckoning, bollocks.
 
Jeez Del, that's pretty sad to go back looking through posts to try and get one over. As for the comments he was in a purple patch IMO and when he does play to that level (which is why it's so fucking annoying now (also let's not forget how fickle we fans can be at times)) he is in amongst the top RBs in the country, the problem comes in that he doesn't stay there.

This season is very much like last for me, he had a great spell (or a couple) last year and then went shit again. Also it's never fun ripping into your teams players, so when some idiots on the bbc blather on when he was in good form I am going to say something. If you look though I did say MOST of the season, a half season of playing shit isn't most I will give you but it isn't good either. If his attitude was better I may be more lenient in my opinion of him, but at times it god fucking awful. I really understand why Carra was furious with him, he goes out of position all the fucking time (even when he was in good form, it's just then he could be forgiven somewhat). There's better out there and I do think we need it.
 
I didn't go looking for your posts specifically. I simply searched 'Arbeloa' to find a couple of earlier threads on him so I could offer a bit of perspective. It just so happened that you were in one of them hailing him as being one of the best right backs in the league for some time.

I'm not saying he's a world beater, just that he's a useful player in a bad run of form. He'd still provide excellent cover if we were to replace him in the first team.
 
I don't mind him being cover (providing we don't get a £5-8M offer), in fact I think it may result in a similar effect to Alonso (ie the kick up the arse he needs), it's just we need better as 1st choice.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33546.msg868721#msg868721 date=1242570873]
I'll add arbeloa should have punched carra's lights out the fucking nutter. telling someone off is one thing shoving them is quite another.
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totally agree,fucking stupid behaviour from carra
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33546.msg869835#msg869835 date=1242664402]
'A gun'

Final proof, if it were ever needed, that you're a cunt
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Oh quit being such a fucking killjoy.

What's wrong with having someone who claims that N'gog "will be a star 1 day, reminds me of trezaguet mixed with anelka"?

That's gold that is.
 
Brendan your just a toss and wouldnt know potential if it hit you in the face

you probly think salif diao is amazing

N'gog will be a star... just watch the match where he drilled england a new asshole and ull see 😉
 
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N'gog will be a star... just watch the match where he drilled england a new asshole and ull see 😉


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He did indeed, and considering just how highly rated some of that England under 21 team is, it was impressive.
 
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=33546.msg870204#msg870204 date=1242705336]
Brendan your just a toss and wouldnt know potential if it hit you in the face

you probly think salif diao is amazing

N'gog will be a star... just watch the match where he drilled england a new asshole and ull see 😉


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I admire your bravery Zlatan.

I for one, am right behind you.
 
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=33546.msg870148#msg870148 date=1242687066]
Jeez Del, that's pretty sad to go back looking through posts to try and get one over. As for the comments he was in a purple patch IMO and when he does play to that level (which is why it's so fucking annoying now (also let's not forget how fickle we fans can be at times)) he is in amongst the top RBs in the country, the problem comes in that he doesn't stay there.

This season is very much like last for me, he had a great spell (or a couple) last year and then went shit again. Also it's never fun ripping into your teams players, so when some idiots on the bbc blather on when he was in good form I am going to say something. If you look though I did say MOST of the season, a half season of playing shit isn't most I will give you but it isn't good either. If his attitude was better I may be more lenient in my opinion of him, but at times it god fucking awful. I really understand why Carra was furious with him, he goes out of position all the fucking time (even when he was in good form, it's just then he could be forgiven somewhat). There's better out there and I do think we need it.
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Ha, Fallon, just stop digging. Del has destroyed you here.
 
Come off it Bunny, opinions are there to be changed. Up until 2 months ago the majority of the forum thought he was all that and now the majority want him as a backup or gone.
 
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