Alvaro Arbeloa
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[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868865#msg868865 date=1242574087]
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
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Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
[/quote]
Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
[quote author=flufferama link=topic=33546.msg868954#msg868954 date=1242577905]
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868865#msg868865 date=1242574087]
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
[/quote]
Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
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*nods*
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868865#msg868865 date=1242574087]
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
[/quote]
Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
[/quote]
*nods*
[quote author=St.Benitez link=topic=33546.msg868935#msg868935 date=1242576957]
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=33546.msg868933#msg868933 date=1242576744]
[quote author=Mr_V link=topic=33546.msg868707#msg868707 date=1242570538]
Thanks for your efforts.
Goodbye and best wishes.
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Disagree to an extent, he should be demoted to sqaud player with johnson as main RB, but we don't want rid just yet!!
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Yeah i agree with you mate. We need 2 RB's and if Johnson could come in as 1st choice with Arby as back up, then that would be just about perfect for me.
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Agreed. He's had good days as well as bad ones, and we won't sign better for less than silly money.
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=33546.msg868933#msg868933 date=1242576744]
[quote author=Mr_V link=topic=33546.msg868707#msg868707 date=1242570538]
Thanks for your efforts.
Goodbye and best wishes.
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Disagree to an extent, he should be demoted to sqaud player with johnson as main RB, but we don't want rid just yet!!
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Yeah i agree with you mate. We need 2 RB's and if Johnson could come in as 1st choice with Arby as back up, then that would be just about perfect for me.
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Agreed. He's had good days as well as bad ones, and we won't sign better for less than silly money.
[quote author=flufferama link=topic=33546.msg868954#msg868954 date=1242577905]
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868865#msg868865 date=1242574087]
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
[/quote]
Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
[/quote]
Stevie is lacking in some areas being a captain, as has been documented on here (but on no other LFC sotes for fear of banning!), he's worked on some, he definitely communicates more with people, but he never seems to be able to, or try to, diffuse explosive situations.
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868865#msg868865 date=1242574087]
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
[/quote]
Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
[/quote]
Stevie is lacking in some areas being a captain, as has been documented on here (but on no other LFC sotes for fear of banning!), he's worked on some, he definitely communicates more with people, but he never seems to be able to, or try to, diffuse explosive situations.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=33546.msg868964#msg868964 date=1242578294]
[quote author=flufferama link=topic=33546.msg868954#msg868954 date=1242577905]
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868865#msg868865 date=1242574087]
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
[/quote]
Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
[/quote]
Stevie is lacking in some areas being a captain, as has been documented on here (but on no other LFC sotes for fear of banning!), he's worked on some, he definitely communicates more with people, but he never seems to be able to, or try to, diffuse explosive situations.
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Whichy begs the question, "why the fuck was he arrested when he was quite obviously under a table ?"
[quote author=flufferama link=topic=33546.msg868954#msg868954 date=1242577905]
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868865#msg868865 date=1242574087]
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
[/quote]
Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
[/quote]
Stevie is lacking in some areas being a captain, as has been documented on here (but on no other LFC sotes for fear of banning!), he's worked on some, he definitely communicates more with people, but he never seems to be able to, or try to, diffuse explosive situations.
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Whichy begs the question, "why the fuck was he arrested when he was quite obviously under a table ?"
[quote author=flufferama link=topic=33546.msg868954#msg868954 date=1242577905]
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868865#msg868865 date=1242574087]
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
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Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
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No, he didn't. On the contrary, he tried to pull Mascher away from trouble. That was down to Mascher and nobody else.
That said, while Stevie has matured as a player and as a man this season, I still don't think he's an ideal skipper, not that there's anything we can do about it now.
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868865#msg868865 date=1242574087]
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
[/quote]
Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
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No, he didn't. On the contrary, he tried to pull Mascher away from trouble. That was down to Mascher and nobody else.
That said, while Stevie has matured as a player and as a man this season, I still don't think he's an ideal skipper, not that there's anything we can do about it now.
hahahahaha.
Nah, he did actually crack the fella by all accounts, then gave him a swift kick or two. Allegedly.
Nah, he did actually crack the fella by all accounts, then gave him a swift kick or two. Allegedly.
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868966#msg868966 date=1242578430]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=33546.msg868964#msg868964 date=1242578294]
[quote author=flufferama link=topic=33546.msg868954#msg868954 date=1242577905]
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868865#msg868865 date=1242574087]
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
[/quote]
Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
[/quote]
Stevie is lacking in some areas being a captain, as has been documented on here (but on no other LFC sotes for fear of banning!), he's worked on some, he definitely communicates more with people, but he never seems to be able to, or try to, diffuse explosive situations.
[/quote]
Whichy begs the question, "why the fuck was he arrested when he was quite obviously under a table ?"
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Haha. Don't get me wrong, I think the world of Steven Gerrard and we'd be absolutely fucked without him.
Maybe he knows he's as likely to swing a punch himself in a row so leaves the flare-ups to Xabi.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=33546.msg868964#msg868964 date=1242578294]
[quote author=flufferama link=topic=33546.msg868954#msg868954 date=1242577905]
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868865#msg868865 date=1242574087]
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
[/quote]
Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
[/quote]
Stevie is lacking in some areas being a captain, as has been documented on here (but on no other LFC sotes for fear of banning!), he's worked on some, he definitely communicates more with people, but he never seems to be able to, or try to, diffuse explosive situations.
[/quote]
Whichy begs the question, "why the fuck was he arrested when he was quite obviously under a table ?"
[/quote]
Haha. Don't get me wrong, I think the world of Steven Gerrard and we'd be absolutely fucked without him.
Maybe he knows he's as likely to swing a punch himself in a row so leaves the flare-ups to Xabi.
[quote author=flufferama link=topic=33546.msg868973#msg868973 date=1242578671]
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868966#msg868966 date=1242578430]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=33546.msg868964#msg868964 date=1242578294]
[quote author=flufferama link=topic=33546.msg868954#msg868954 date=1242577905]
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868865#msg868865 date=1242574087]
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
[/quote]
Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
[/quote]
Stevie is lacking in some areas being a captain, as has been documented on here (but on no other LFC sotes for fear of banning!), he's worked on some, he definitely communicates more with people, but he never seems to be able to, or try to, diffuse explosive situations.
[/quote]
Whichy begs the question, "why the fuck was he arrested when he was quite obviously under a table ?"
[/quote]
Haha. Don't get me wrong, I think the world of Steven Gerrard and we'd be absolutely fucked without him.
Maybe he knows he's as likely to swing a punch himself in a row so leaves the flare-ups to Xabi.
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I think that's exactly right. Stevie's a bit of a hothead, so it's better that he just stays out of situations like that.
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868966#msg868966 date=1242578430]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=33546.msg868964#msg868964 date=1242578294]
[quote author=flufferama link=topic=33546.msg868954#msg868954 date=1242577905]
[quote author=themn link=topic=33546.msg868865#msg868865 date=1242574087]
There's some real bollocks been spoken here about Xabi and Agger wanting to have a go at Carrer because of some "press-driven" dressing room split.
Jamie was wound up, Arbeloa just stood up and said "and what etc.." Jamie went mental (and he shouldn't have), Xabi and Agger tried to cool him down/stop him getting himself sent off.
[/quote]
Is right.
And where the fuck was Gerrard? He disappeared when Mascher went postal at OT last year too.
In all, a slightly embarrassing incident which will undoubtedly be magnified beyond belief.
[/quote]
Stevie is lacking in some areas being a captain, as has been documented on here (but on no other LFC sotes for fear of banning!), he's worked on some, he definitely communicates more with people, but he never seems to be able to, or try to, diffuse explosive situations.
[/quote]
Whichy begs the question, "why the fuck was he arrested when he was quite obviously under a table ?"
[/quote]
Haha. Don't get me wrong, I think the world of Steven Gerrard and we'd be absolutely fucked without him.
Maybe he knows he's as likely to swing a punch himself in a row so leaves the flare-ups to Xabi.
[/quote]
I think that's exactly right. Stevie's a bit of a hothead, so it's better that he just stays out of situations like that.
This thread has gone on for four pages?
Bollocks. Arbeloa is a very good defender and has done very well for Liverpool.
Some competition for his place may eliminate the complacency that has creeped into his game in the last few games.
Bollocks. Arbeloa is a very good defender and has done very well for Liverpool.
Some competition for his place may eliminate the complacency that has creeped into his game in the last few games.
[quote author=St.Benitez link=topic=33546.msg868939#msg868939 date=1242577363]
Benitez plays down player scuffle
by Toby Davis , 17 May 2009
Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez has shrugged off the on-pitch scuffle between Reds team-mates Jamie Carragher and Alvaro Arbeloa as a sign of a winning mentality.
The pair squared up in the second half of Liverpool’s 2-0 victory over West Brom with Carragher giving the Spaniard a piece of his mind after The Baggies had a chance to reduce the two-goal deficit.
Referee Martin Atkinson gave both players a stern talking to after Xabi Alonso had managed to drag them apart, but rather than criticise the pair for coming to blows, Benitez said it was evidence of a fierce will to win.
“You could see Carragher and Arbeloa because we wanted a clean sheet and they were a little bit nervous,†said Benitez.
"Arbeloa was going forward and then we had some problems in defence. We wanted to protect Pepe Reina because now I think he has 20 clean sheets - Van der Sar has 21.
"It's a positive message in terms of the mentality of the team. We wanted to show character and a winning mentality.
"We were looking for some targets: 83 points, a club record in The Premier League; 13 victories away - also a record. We also wanted to score goals and keep a clean sheet and for us I think this guarantees second position. We also wanted to stay as close as possible to United."
Liverpool’s victory over The Baggies took their points tally to 83 for the season, a record in The Premier League for The Reds.
But it was not enough to secure the title and Benitez says in the end his squad was not as strong as Manchester United’s.
"United have quality - especially on the bench," he added. "Against us they had Scholes, Giggs and Berbatov on the bench. You can change two or three players easily.
"We have less of these kind of players, though I am really pleased with my squad and really proud of what we've done this season.
"I will say congratulations to Manchester United - it's a good club, a big club."
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Very generous of Rafa to say this, although disappointing for the anti-Rafa brigade who pore over his every utterance to find fault.
As to the Carra-Arby incident, whilst it's right for the senior player to point out mistakes made, Carra let himself down by overreacting in an embarrassing way. Arbeloa was right to take offence and look to defend himself.
Incident best forgotten.
Benitez plays down player scuffle
by Toby Davis , 17 May 2009
Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez has shrugged off the on-pitch scuffle between Reds team-mates Jamie Carragher and Alvaro Arbeloa as a sign of a winning mentality.
The pair squared up in the second half of Liverpool’s 2-0 victory over West Brom with Carragher giving the Spaniard a piece of his mind after The Baggies had a chance to reduce the two-goal deficit.
Referee Martin Atkinson gave both players a stern talking to after Xabi Alonso had managed to drag them apart, but rather than criticise the pair for coming to blows, Benitez said it was evidence of a fierce will to win.
“You could see Carragher and Arbeloa because we wanted a clean sheet and they were a little bit nervous,†said Benitez.
"Arbeloa was going forward and then we had some problems in defence. We wanted to protect Pepe Reina because now I think he has 20 clean sheets - Van der Sar has 21.
"It's a positive message in terms of the mentality of the team. We wanted to show character and a winning mentality.
"We were looking for some targets: 83 points, a club record in The Premier League; 13 victories away - also a record. We also wanted to score goals and keep a clean sheet and for us I think this guarantees second position. We also wanted to stay as close as possible to United."
Liverpool’s victory over The Baggies took their points tally to 83 for the season, a record in The Premier League for The Reds.
But it was not enough to secure the title and Benitez says in the end his squad was not as strong as Manchester United’s.
"United have quality - especially on the bench," he added. "Against us they had Scholes, Giggs and Berbatov on the bench. You can change two or three players easily.
"We have less of these kind of players, though I am really pleased with my squad and really proud of what we've done this season.
"I will say congratulations to Manchester United - it's a good club, a big club."
[/quote]
Very generous of Rafa to say this, although disappointing for the anti-Rafa brigade who pore over his every utterance to find fault.
As to the Carra-Arby incident, whilst it's right for the senior player to point out mistakes made, Carra let himself down by overreacting in an embarrassing way. Arbeloa was right to take offence and look to defend himself.
Incident best forgotten.
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=33546.msg868831#msg868831 date=1242573215]
I thought it was a bit worrying. Carra probably was pissed off about United winning the league yesterday, but I've rarely if ever seen him blow a fuse like that on the field. We need his leadership qualities and, yep, sometimes his bollockings, but that was OTT. It was embarrassing and unprofessional.
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^^^
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Agreed. It's not like he completely missed a ball last week to gift a chance to the opposition, is it?
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=33546.msg868831#msg868831 date=1242573215]
I thought it was a bit worrying. Carra probably was pissed off about United winning the league yesterday, but I've rarely if ever seen him blow a fuse like that on the field. We need his leadership qualities and, yep, sometimes his bollockings, but that was OTT. It was embarrassing and unprofessional.
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^^^
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Agreed. It's not like he completely missed a ball last week to gift a chance to the opposition, is it?
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=33546.msg868831#msg868831 date=1242573215]
I thought it was a bit worrying. Carra probably was pissed off about United winning the league yesterday, but I've rarely if ever seen him blow a fuse like that on the field. We need his leadership qualities and, yep, sometimes his bollockings, but that was OTT. It was embarrassing and unprofessional.
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yep, I was disappointed. Carra is bigger than that and let himself and the club down, which in light of his years of honourable service can be easily forgiven. Let's hope this does not affect team spirit.
I thought it was a bit worrying. Carra probably was pissed off about United winning the league yesterday, but I've rarely if ever seen him blow a fuse like that on the field. We need his leadership qualities and, yep, sometimes his bollockings, but that was OTT. It was embarrassing and unprofessional.
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yep, I was disappointed. Carra is bigger than that and let himself and the club down, which in light of his years of honourable service can be easily forgiven. Let's hope this does not affect team spirit.
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[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=33546.msg868782#msg868782 date=1242572155]
Yep, real "aggression" in Xabi's actions there.
He and Agger really "went for Carra's throat".
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Nah, its all good mate. I'm sure Alonso always looks like that when he's dealing with people he likes/has respect for. :🙂
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I saw a leader breaking up a ruck between teammates, mate.
You obviously saw something different.
There was aggression in Carra's eyes, for sure. If you saw that same look in Xabi's eyes, you need my glasses more than I do. And nobody "went from the throat" at all.
It's all being blown WAY outta proportion, and you're not usually one to indulge in that type of thing.
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=33546.msg868782#msg868782 date=1242572155]
Yep, real "aggression" in Xabi's actions there.
He and Agger really "went for Carra's throat".
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Nah, its all good mate. I'm sure Alonso always looks like that when he's dealing with people he likes/has respect for. :🙂
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I saw a leader breaking up a ruck between teammates, mate.
You obviously saw something different.
There was aggression in Carra's eyes, for sure. If you saw that same look in Xabi's eyes, you need my glasses more than I do. And nobody "went from the throat" at all.
It's all being blown WAY outta proportion, and you're not usually one to indulge in that type of thing.
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[quote author=St.Benitez link=topic=33546.msg868939#msg868939 date=1242577363]
Benitez plays down player scuffle
by Toby Davis , 17 May 2009
Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez has shrugged off the on-pitch scuffle between Reds team-mates Jamie Carragher and Alvaro Arbeloa as a sign of a winning mentality.
The pair squared up in the second half of Liverpool’s 2-0 victory over West Brom with Carragher giving the Spaniard a piece of his mind after The Baggies had a chance to reduce the two-goal deficit.
Referee Martin Atkinson gave both players a stern talking to after Xabi Alonso had managed to drag them apart, but rather than criticise the pair for coming to blows, Benitez said it was evidence of a fierce will to win.
“You could see Carragher and Arbeloa because we wanted a clean sheet and they were a little bit nervous,†said Benitez.
"Arbeloa was going forward and then we had some problems in defence. We wanted to protect Pepe Reina because now I think he has 20 clean sheets - Van der Sar has 21.
"It's a positive message in terms of the mentality of the team. We wanted to show character and a winning mentality.
"We were looking for some targets: 83 points, a club record in The Premier League; 13 victories away - also a record. We also wanted to score goals and keep a clean sheet and for us I think this guarantees second position. We also wanted to stay as close as possible to United."
Liverpool’s victory over The Baggies took their points tally to 83 for the season, a record in The Premier League for The Reds.
But it was not enough to secure the title and Benitez says in the end his squad was not as strong as Manchester United’s.
"United have quality - especially on the bench," he added. "Against us they had Scholes, Giggs and Berbatov on the bench. You can change two or three players easily.
"We have less of these kind of players, though I am really pleased with my squad and really proud of what we've done this season.
"I will say congratulations to Manchester United - it's a good club, a big club."
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Very generous of Rafa to say this, although disappointing for the anti-Rafa brigade who pore over his every utterance to find fault.
As to the Carra-Arby incident, whilst it's right for the senior player to point out mistakes made, Carra let himself down by overreacting in an embarrassing way. Arbeloa was right to take offence and look to defend himself.
Incident best forgotten.
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The disappointment is with the defeat, not with the conceding thereof.
[quote author=St.Benitez link=topic=33546.msg868939#msg868939 date=1242577363]
Benitez plays down player scuffle
by Toby Davis , 17 May 2009
Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez has shrugged off the on-pitch scuffle between Reds team-mates Jamie Carragher and Alvaro Arbeloa as a sign of a winning mentality.
The pair squared up in the second half of Liverpool’s 2-0 victory over West Brom with Carragher giving the Spaniard a piece of his mind after The Baggies had a chance to reduce the two-goal deficit.
Referee Martin Atkinson gave both players a stern talking to after Xabi Alonso had managed to drag them apart, but rather than criticise the pair for coming to blows, Benitez said it was evidence of a fierce will to win.
“You could see Carragher and Arbeloa because we wanted a clean sheet and they were a little bit nervous,†said Benitez.
"Arbeloa was going forward and then we had some problems in defence. We wanted to protect Pepe Reina because now I think he has 20 clean sheets - Van der Sar has 21.
"It's a positive message in terms of the mentality of the team. We wanted to show character and a winning mentality.
"We were looking for some targets: 83 points, a club record in The Premier League; 13 victories away - also a record. We also wanted to score goals and keep a clean sheet and for us I think this guarantees second position. We also wanted to stay as close as possible to United."
Liverpool’s victory over The Baggies took their points tally to 83 for the season, a record in The Premier League for The Reds.
But it was not enough to secure the title and Benitez says in the end his squad was not as strong as Manchester United’s.
"United have quality - especially on the bench," he added. "Against us they had Scholes, Giggs and Berbatov on the bench. You can change two or three players easily.
"We have less of these kind of players, though I am really pleased with my squad and really proud of what we've done this season.
"I will say congratulations to Manchester United - it's a good club, a big club."
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Very generous of Rafa to say this, although disappointing for the anti-Rafa brigade who pore over his every utterance to find fault.
As to the Carra-Arby incident, whilst it's right for the senior player to point out mistakes made, Carra let himself down by overreacting in an embarrassing way. Arbeloa was right to take offence and look to defend himself.
Incident best forgotten.
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The disappointment is with the defeat, not with the conceding thereof.
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Nope i wasnt taking the piss....
carragher is useless and way past it.
skrtel and agger should be our CB's next season
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Good on you Zlatan, SCM needs more of your type. Not afraid to buck the trend and ignore the blindingly obvious.
Who else do you think is "useless" in our squad?
Nope i wasnt taking the piss....
carragher is useless and way past it.
skrtel and agger should be our CB's next season
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Good on you Zlatan, SCM needs more of your type. Not afraid to buck the trend and ignore the blindingly obvious.
Who else do you think is "useless" in our squad?
Its not silly neets... Perhaps he needs competition, but yesterday he was lazy. He was treating it as an end of season game, like his little 'flick' into the box to no one, his flick in his own 18 yard area, when 99 times out of 100 it should have been in row z
He's a 'good' player, but one prone to the odd mistake, cf. Arsenal when we were 2-1 up. Carra wouldn't have reacted like that had Arby not suggested "So what". Therefore if we keep Arby, he'd only be back-up, and it's been suggested before he's homesick.
In my opinion (I think i've said this over a few posts)... RB and LW are priorities. We are well covered in most other departments.
He's a 'good' player, but one prone to the odd mistake, cf. Arsenal when we were 2-1 up. Carra wouldn't have reacted like that had Arby not suggested "So what". Therefore if we keep Arby, he'd only be back-up, and it's been suggested before he's homesick.
In my opinion (I think i've said this over a few posts)... RB and LW are priorities. We are well covered in most other departments.
I agree with that V, but to say his time here is done is a little OTT. I think at £2mill, he's proven to be a very good signing, he has a very impressive first season, admittedly his form has dipped this season, he's had some poor games, with silly individual errors. We're very thin at RB, without him we're looking at Carra, who simply doesn't have the legs to play there anymore.
We could have had Danni Alves...Carra would have been beating him up every week though.
We could have had Danni Alves...Carra would have been beating him up every week though.
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Zlatan is not right in the head
I don't like him because of this
Please forward my displeasure to the appropriate departments
Regards
Brendan
Zlatan is not right in the head
I don't like him because of this
Please forward my displeasure to the appropriate departments
Regards
Brendan
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15 times?
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I think it should be taken into account that the poster being reported was Le Chacal.
15 times?
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I think it should be taken into account that the poster being reported was Le Chacal.
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