Alvaro Arbeloa
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[quote author=rage link=topic=33546.msg872643#msg872643 date=1242993138]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33546.msg872535#msg872535 date=1242981466]
[quote author=rage link=topic=33546.msg872298#msg872298 date=1242938583]
you're lucky u were gone mate. some cunt called st benitez was on, the gall of the fucker wishing our manager dead and all that with his saint nonsense. i'm telling u i reckon he was trying to liken rafa to one of them catholic child molester priests with his saint nonsense. don't worry plenty of us gave that twat some shit 'cos we knew with you gone our manager needed defending. he's gone now else i'm sure you'd have him
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I like you Rage, you make my viewpoint all the more stronger.
Anyway I've decided to turn over a new leaf. I've come to the conclusion that anyone that can't see that Rafa is an excellent Manager must be mentally retarded, and it would be wrong of me not to try to help these people in future.
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excellent isn't good enough. 3 years without a trophy. in the last 4 years he's won only the FA Cup. Next season is huge for Rafa - he'll have to deliver either the league or champions league else he'll be sent back to Spain. He now has all the control he could want, a transfer budget of easy 40 million after selling only his fringe players and a team that believes they can compete for the league. i have never doubted whether or not he's a excellent manager, year on year my doubts have increased as to whether he is good enough to bring us the league.
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Well,that's not going to happen.
The payout he'd get if we sacked him next year would make the Houillier payout look like peanuts.
He's here for the long haul,now.
In 5 years,we'll see what the legacy is; ie whether we reclaim the glories of Liverpool past.
I'm not going to mention the alternative, it's too painful.
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33546.msg872535#msg872535 date=1242981466]
[quote author=rage link=topic=33546.msg872298#msg872298 date=1242938583]
you're lucky u were gone mate. some cunt called st benitez was on, the gall of the fucker wishing our manager dead and all that with his saint nonsense. i'm telling u i reckon he was trying to liken rafa to one of them catholic child molester priests with his saint nonsense. don't worry plenty of us gave that twat some shit 'cos we knew with you gone our manager needed defending. he's gone now else i'm sure you'd have him
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I like you Rage, you make my viewpoint all the more stronger.
Anyway I've decided to turn over a new leaf. I've come to the conclusion that anyone that can't see that Rafa is an excellent Manager must be mentally retarded, and it would be wrong of me not to try to help these people in future.
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excellent isn't good enough. 3 years without a trophy. in the last 4 years he's won only the FA Cup. Next season is huge for Rafa - he'll have to deliver either the league or champions league else he'll be sent back to Spain. He now has all the control he could want, a transfer budget of easy 40 million after selling only his fringe players and a team that believes they can compete for the league. i have never doubted whether or not he's a excellent manager, year on year my doubts have increased as to whether he is good enough to bring us the league.
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Well,that's not going to happen.
The payout he'd get if we sacked him next year would make the Houillier payout look like peanuts.
He's here for the long haul,now.
In 5 years,we'll see what the legacy is; ie whether we reclaim the glories of Liverpool past.
I'm not going to mention the alternative, it's too painful.
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=33546.msg872768#msg872768 date=1243008159]
[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=33546.msg872764#msg872764 date=1243007750]
.........seriously though what has le chacal done?
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The crime of criticizing our manager.
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Over and over and over again. Using exactly the same fucking words each time.
Your crime is not being critical, Le Chac, but being boring.
[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=33546.msg872764#msg872764 date=1243007750]
.........seriously though what has le chacal done?
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The crime of criticizing our manager.
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Over and over and over again. Using exactly the same fucking words each time.
Your crime is not being critical, Le Chac, but being boring.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=33546.msg872824#msg872824 date=1243016898]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=33546.msg872768#msg872768 date=1243008159]
[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=33546.msg872764#msg872764 date=1243007750]
.........seriously though what has le chacal done?
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The crime of criticizing our manager.
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Over and over and over again. Using exactly the same fucking words each time.
Your crime is not being critical, Le Chac, but being boring.
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Thats not the point Bunny. Im not on here to amuse people.
He reported me 15 times because I dared questioning his idol's methods.
And now he carries on with his little childish digs towards Sheik.
He's a loon, thats the point.
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=33546.msg872768#msg872768 date=1243008159]
[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=33546.msg872764#msg872764 date=1243007750]
.........seriously though what has le chacal done?
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The crime of criticizing our manager.
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Over and over and over again. Using exactly the same fucking words each time.
Your crime is not being critical, Le Chac, but being boring.
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Thats not the point Bunny. Im not on here to amuse people.
He reported me 15 times because I dared questioning his idol's methods.
And now he carries on with his little childish digs towards Sheik.
He's a loon, thats the point.
And you're autistic. Rafa4PM reported you at least as much because of your own "little childish digs", which are still continuing, whereas (in case you didn't notice) he's apologised for being childish before. Bunny's so very, very right about you.
Why are you all still wittering on about Rafa and Le Chac?
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33546.msg872763#msg872763 date=1243007521]
[quote author=vantage link=topic=33546.msg872759#msg872759 date=1243006696]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33546.msg872715#msg872715 date=1243002112]
Cheers Biggus/Vlad.
Vlad:
You're my hero on this site, so I'm glad that you think you might have actually missed me.
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Careful Vladders.
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fucking hell that's a bit strong 😱
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What? The smilie?
[quote author=vantage link=topic=33546.msg872759#msg872759 date=1243006696]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33546.msg872715#msg872715 date=1243002112]
Cheers Biggus/Vlad.
Vlad:
You're my hero on this site, so I'm glad that you think you might have actually missed me.
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Careful Vladders.
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fucking hell that's a bit strong 😱
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What? The smilie?
[quote author=Biggus Dickus link=topic=33546.msg872898#msg872898 date=1243027493]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33546.msg872763#msg872763 date=1243007521]
[quote author=vantage link=topic=33546.msg872759#msg872759 date=1243006696]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33546.msg872715#msg872715 date=1243002112]
Cheers Biggus/Vlad.
Vlad:
You're my hero on this site, so I'm glad that you think you might have actually missed me.
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Careful Vladders.
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fucking hell that's a bit strong 😱
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What? The smilie?
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Named after you it would appear!
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=33546.msg872763#msg872763 date=1243007521]
[quote author=vantage link=topic=33546.msg872759#msg872759 date=1243006696]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=33546.msg872715#msg872715 date=1243002112]
Cheers Biggus/Vlad.
Vlad:
You're my hero on this site, so I'm glad that you think you might have actually missed me.
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Careful Vladders.
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fucking hell that's a bit strong 😱
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What? The smilie?
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Named after you it would appear!
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=33546.msg875620#msg875620 date=1243351164]
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33546.msg875614#msg875614 date=1243350928]
Was Arbeloa injured or suspended for Sunday? Or just left out?
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If i was the boss id have dropped him for his shambolic display at West brom. Maybe Rafa did the same.
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his performance was far from shambolic. why was it shambolic? because carra had a go at him?
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33546.msg875614#msg875614 date=1243350928]
Was Arbeloa injured or suspended for Sunday? Or just left out?
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If i was the boss id have dropped him for his shambolic display at West brom. Maybe Rafa did the same.
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his performance was far from shambolic. why was it shambolic? because carra had a go at him?
It was shambolic because he was, by and large, a shambles.
Quite simple, really.
He was fucking shit in that game, and has been fucking shit for the last quarter of the season.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33546.msg875623#msg875623 date=1243351349]
I wouldn't have thought dropping him was the wisest of decisions after the Carra incident, it suggests that the manager is taking sides, and whilst Carra is, obviously, far more important to us than Arbeloa will ever be, he was bang out of order on this occasion.
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Well it was pointed out too that Carra made that big howler against West Ham after Arbeloa layed the ball back to him, and Arbeloa didn't react in the same manner, so you could see his point really when he stood up to Carra.
I wouldn't have thought dropping him was the wisest of decisions after the Carra incident, it suggests that the manager is taking sides, and whilst Carra is, obviously, far more important to us than Arbeloa will ever be, he was bang out of order on this occasion.
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Well it was pointed out too that Carra made that big howler against West Ham after Arbeloa layed the ball back to him, and Arbeloa didn't react in the same manner, so you could see his point really when he stood up to Carra.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=33546.msg875629#msg875629 date=1243351544]
It was shambolic because he was, by and large, a shambles.
Quite simple, really.
He was fucking shit in that game, and has been fucking shit for the last quarter of the season.
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he hasn't been great but he's been far from shit. and even if he was shit (which he wasn't) that's easily put down to injuries.
It was shambolic because he was, by and large, a shambles.
Quite simple, really.
He was fucking shit in that game, and has been fucking shit for the last quarter of the season.
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he hasn't been great but he's been far from shit. and even if he was shit (which he wasn't) that's easily put down to injuries.
for the record I think we've lost points when arbeloa hasn't played.
m'bro - away
everton - home
dreadful peformances from skrtel and carra when moved to right back. damage for all goals conceeded coming down our right.
m'bro - away
everton - home
dreadful peformances from skrtel and carra when moved to right back. damage for all goals conceeded coming down our right.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33546.msg875660#msg875660 date=1243352946]
I like Stephen Darby. He deserves a few run outs there next season. His attitude is spot on, and he's learning all the time.
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johnson will be signed which will push darby even further down the pecking order.
I like Stephen Darby. He deserves a few run outs there next season. His attitude is spot on, and he's learning all the time.
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johnson will be signed which will push darby even further down the pecking order.
[quote author=Anita link=topic=33546.msg875635#msg875635 date=1243351677]
To clarify Mark, I think Carra was the one in the wrong.
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I know, I wasn't disagreeing just compounding the point. I gave Carra the benefit of the doubt after the event, in view of the fact that United had won the title the day before and his passion and desire for us to win is usually one of his endeering characteristics. I think it was lucky it was him though tbh, anyone else would have been given a right bollocking from the fans, the media and Rafa.
To clarify Mark, I think Carra was the one in the wrong.
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I know, I wasn't disagreeing just compounding the point. I gave Carra the benefit of the doubt after the event, in view of the fact that United had won the title the day before and his passion and desire for us to win is usually one of his endeering characteristics. I think it was lucky it was him though tbh, anyone else would have been given a right bollocking from the fans, the media and Rafa.
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