It's very similar to threads last Summer too about Willian and a few others. What's your point?
Adam Lallana
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It's very similar to threads last Summer too about Willian and a few others. What's your point?
Heh, I don't want to see us overpay, I've said that from the off. Some of the bollocks being spouted though to knock him down is equally over the top. Considering the amount of posters who were happy for us to spunk £30m on any foreign players we were linked with last Summer, it all just seems a bit hypocritical.
If we buy him for £20m I can live with that, the lad doesn't need a massive fee weighing him down and we don't need to overpay and lose out on other players as a result. But he's a good player who doesn't deserve to be getting beat with the Carroll/Downing stick, which has been done to fucking death by Modo.
My main issue is that the pro Lallana at any price camp is completely glossing over the red flags and risks of this transfer.
That sort of attitude is how you get burned on a deal, especially one of this size.
The other hilarious thing is that considering we seem to be the only ones in on him, we're essentially negotiating against ourselves. You can't just let the selling club pick a price and pay it, that's a terrible tactic and other clubs will exploit it.
If this he was always going to be 'our guy', then we should have wrapped this deal up in March for 10M.
I'm never that overly arsed how much we pay for a player really. As long as he's proven to be a success at the club then I'm cool with playing inflated prices. After all it's not my money and it's the nature of football to win some or lose some regarding transfers.
That said I was annoyed with the Downing and Carroll prices. Still 30mill for Lallana? Sure why not? 😗
That said I was annoyed with the Downing and Carroll prices. Still 30mill for Lallana? Sure why not? 😗
Can we please kill this "Premier League proven" meme. It means literally nothing. It "proves" nothing. It has zero value. Our best purchases over the last decade have been "Eredivisie proven" (Kuyt, Suarez), "La Liga proven" (Alonso, Garcia, Torres, Reina), "Russian Premier League proven" (Skrtel), "Serie A proven" (Coutinho) and even "Danish Superliga proven" (Agger).
We should actively avoid signing Premier League players.
We should actively avoid signing Premier League players.
Thanks Mark, I wasnt aware that you could rate a footballer unless there was a fantasy football points total to reference.
I only half look at this thread for a number of reasons, but I don't think it would be hard to figure out why Lallana is different to two players who have played well at the highest level since they were 20.
He profiles more like Charlie Adam
How?
So you don't care what we pay for players except when you do, and you do care except when you don't?
Great!
he means to spurs....
I know I'm fickle like that - Great!
No, I dont. It wouldnt surprise me if the new contract offered to Poccethino included not selling Lallana.
Now that he's left I can see Lallana being allowed to leave. He wants CL footy so Spurs is out of the picture imho.
Me neither.
Takes one to not know one....
Suggest you look at the players in their squads and then ask yourself why would they need him ? They all have deficiencies somewhere but it's not for a Lallana type player.
United have Mata and Rooney for that slot why on earth would they want Lallana !
I do wonder how often some posters have watched Lallana.
Ive spoken of this before but my pal Andy who is a saints fan has been telling me for about 6 years that this kid is amazing. He is the player who controls their team, he not only scores goals and creates goals but he is the fulcrum of the team and has been as they have risen through the divisions.
I have always trusted Andy on his opinions because he is a proper football man and sits in the stands home and away watching them.
So I have taken an interest in Lallana and watched him play a lot and he is a fucking brilliant footballer. He isnt Downing, NO ONE thought Downing was a great player. Lallana would be brilliant for us, hes as close to David Silva as you will find and at 25 has at least 4 or 5 years of quality in him. He is pacy and hard working and has just bags of ability on the ball. I cant comment on how much he would cost, predominantly because I dont care. He isnt premiership proven, he is PROVEN and if you dont think so you really genuinely cant have watched him a great deal.
Schneiderling and Cork are good players too.
Admittedly I dont watch a lot of European football and im happy to hear about better, cheaper alternatives but id take some convincing that Lallana wouldnt be brilliant for us.
I hope this happens.
Ive spoken of this before but my pal Andy who is a saints fan has been telling me for about 6 years that this kid is amazing. He is the player who controls their team, he not only scores goals and creates goals but he is the fulcrum of the team and has been as they have risen through the divisions.
I have always trusted Andy on his opinions because he is a proper football man and sits in the stands home and away watching them.
So I have taken an interest in Lallana and watched him play a lot and he is a fucking brilliant footballer. He isnt Downing, NO ONE thought Downing was a great player. Lallana would be brilliant for us, hes as close to David Silva as you will find and at 25 has at least 4 or 5 years of quality in him. He is pacy and hard working and has just bags of ability on the ball. I cant comment on how much he would cost, predominantly because I dont care. He isnt premiership proven, he is PROVEN and if you dont think so you really genuinely cant have watched him a great deal.
Schneiderling and Cork are good players too.
Admittedly I dont watch a lot of European football and im happy to hear about better, cheaper alternatives but id take some convincing that Lallana wouldnt be brilliant for us.
I hope this happens.
Dont know if this means anything to anyone but this was what Andy said in 2011 when Arsenal were after Oxlade-Chamberlain.
Nope. Don't get me wrong he's very good and has fantasic potential. But that's all it is.... Potential.
To get £12 million+ for a 17 year old that has only played 3rd level football is unreal!! He's got no championship experience, no premier league experience, no European competition experience, no international experience etc etc.... I'm personally over the moon with that amount of money. That's basically what Utd paid for Ashley young, a full international.
AOC is no doubt one of the best young talents this country has, but its a massive gamble by Arsenal. They should really be spending their money a bit more wisely imo. Apparently thier fans are livid.
Now if we're talking about Adam lallana..... Now he's by far and away our best prospect. Our team is basically being built around him. Footballing genius!
Nope. Don't get me wrong he's very good and has fantasic potential. But that's all it is.... Potential.
To get £12 million+ for a 17 year old that has only played 3rd level football is unreal!! He's got no championship experience, no premier league experience, no European competition experience, no international experience etc etc.... I'm personally over the moon with that amount of money. That's basically what Utd paid for Ashley young, a full international.
AOC is no doubt one of the best young talents this country has, but its a massive gamble by Arsenal. They should really be spending their money a bit more wisely imo. Apparently thier fans are livid.
Now if we're talking about Adam lallana..... Now he's by far and away our best prospect. Our team is basically being built around him. Footballing genius!
They might look at it as better to sell now before appointing a new man. It's for the most part a given that he's leaving, a nice transfer kitty and the lack of speculation will be better for negotiations for a new manager.
Worth mentioning that he was comparing a 17 year old and a 23 year old. Lallana wasn't really a prospect by that point.
Well not Mata, but the other 2 yes, Spurs only success last season was Eriksen after spunking mega money, good for them they got a one good deal at least, Kagawa hasnt exactly been a hit, definately more a miss than a hit.
Anyway the point i was making in reply to Modo was that those clubs more pressing issues in other areas of their teams.
Everything Modo is saying in this thread is flawed, half the stuff he says is made up fantasy and the other half is ill thought out nonsense, its embarrassing to read.
He should just come out and be honest and say he doesn't want or rate Lallana because thats what he thinks (which is fair enough, everyone is entitled to think whatever they want), but for some reason he just wont admit it instead he chooses to talk utter nonsense.
It's far too obvious and without something more substantial I'd tend to consider that 'column inch filler'. It will b einteresting to see who Spurs ditch because I don't see them having much of a kitty with no CL and having spent profusely (even if most of it was Bale money) last season.
Ferdinand, Carrick, Henderson, Carvalho, Walcott, Yorke, I could go on.
All players who weren't worth what the buying club paid for them at the time, all turned out fucking great. Just as you can overpay for a Carroll and Downing, you can overpay and get something quality too. It works both fucking ways.
Oncy's right up there too; it's a fucking cast-iron certainty that the vast majority of you have seen no more than 30 seconds of Adam Lallana play in your lives.
Like yer fucking man Dahuge who claimed he was a tidy player like Joe Allen, but not somebody who could win a match. Like Coutinho. And then got cunted all over this thread when it was pointed out that Lallana scored twice as many goals as him.
Clearly never seen a fucking minute of him in his life.
Like yer fucking man Dahuge who claimed he was a tidy player like Joe Allen, but not somebody who could win a match. Like Coutinho. And then got cunted all over this thread when it was pointed out that Lallana scored twice as many goals as him.
Clearly never seen a fucking minute of him in his life.
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