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Adam Lallana

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no idea if he's going to be a great signing but it would be impressive if we pull off a big deal so early in the summer .
 
I know he'll play further forward, but I wonder how much of this will be to ease the burden on Gerrard in the long run, with Lallana ultimately stepping into Stevie's shoes. We need someone to (apologies for the cliche) put their foot on the ball and dictate the play and the tempo. Gerrard can do that in some respects, but he's not a patch on Alonso for that sort of composure and discipline, such is his nature (still) to drive the team. Then we have Suso too, it'd be nice to have someone who can control the play from deeper in midfield. I'm don't know whether Allen, Lallana or Suso could do that in the longrun.

Interesting anyway.

Aldo reckons we're in for Diame and Costa btw.


I hear what you're saying Mark, but Lallana's not that player. I think BR's view (and I share it) is that the days of one controlling Alonso-type in the centre of the ground to dictate tempo are over. You need 2-3 playrrs through the middle who can control the tempo and the ball the ball movement these days.

Alonso stopped being that one-out controller years ago cos opposing teams just put effort into him and negated his influence. He's more of a breaker-upper at Madrid these days too, where they rely on 2-3 players to control the game. Same at Barca, same at Bayern. There's no such thing as a one-man controlling type anymore.

We get Lallana, and then we've got serious ball-playing options in midfield; Gerrard, Lucas, Allen, Coutinho, Lallana, Hendo, Sterling - all comfortable in possession, and gives us alternatives every week.

Rotating dictators = the new black.
 
Allen looks like he could do that though, if he could impose himself that bit more, he's getting there though. I know what you're saying about Lallana, what I meant was he would (ideally) step into the shoes of Gerrard from a few years back, pulling the strings infront of the opposition defence. In tandem or rotating with a confident Coutinho, that's a mouthwatering prospect.
 
Allen looks like he could do that though, if he could impose himself that bit more, he's getting there though. I know what you're saying about Lallana, what I meant was he would (ideally) step into the shoes of Gerrard from a few years back, pulling the strings behind the defence. In tandem or rotating with a confident Coutinho, that's a mouthwatering prospect.


In most games he'll slot into that inside left of the diamond position that we haven't had a great option for this season. Both Sterling and Coutinho prefer the tip of the diamond anyway.
 
In most games he'll slot into that inside left of the diamond position that we haven't had a great option for this season. Both Sterling and Coutinho prefer the tip of the diamond anyway.

Yeah, but inside left which again gives him, like Coutinho last season, license to roam and play between between the lines. It'll be exciting with those three, I'm fucked if I know much about the Ukranian guy though and how he'd fit into the grand scheme of things. If he came in, then regardless of the extra football we'll be playing, you'd have to think that something would need to give.

Gerrard
Lucas
Allen
Henderson
Lallana
Coutinho
Sterling
Suarez
Sturridge

with the possibility of:
Borini
Suso
Konoplyanka
Plus maybe another midfielder/striker.

When you wager that Suarez & Sturridge would be ever-presents pretty much, then that's alot of players to go around the remaining four positions.
 
is the ukranian lad more of a winger ? Guess he's giving us more quality options and if needs we could use him and sterling to give width .
 
is the ukranian lad more of a winger ? Guess he's giving us more quality options and if needs we could use him and sterling to give width .


Yeah. The way I see it is we need a winger to replace Moses. If people reflect on how much better we'd have been if we'd had a good player to bring on or even start instead of him then the sense in getting a quality winger in starts to become apparent.

Ditto for a good striker instead of Aspas.

I mean we're talking about the bare bones of a decent squad here, really.
 
A bigger squad will have to be used better, too. In a small squad, Aspas had how much competitive action since the summer? Hardly any. So one place on the bench most weeks was taken up by a player who was in no condition to come on and make a positive difference. The response will be: so he'll be replaced by a much better player. Maybe he will, but how will HE be kept sharp? By sitting on the bench? By getting a frantic cup game against some hoofing side in the championship who knock the team out? I'd prefer the reserves to serve the first team much more closely by featuring the fringe players a bit more often, so at least they're getting some confidence and match practice. As for Lallana, he's a very good player, but £20m would be way too much if the budget is as limited as most people suspect it is.
 
Lallana, Allen, Gerrard, Henderson, Coutinho and Lucas is ridiculous options in the middle.
That would be heaven.
Just a couple of years on from Poulsen and Cole.
Fucking hell.
 
Forward option Suarez, Sturridge, Borini, Suso, Sterling, Konoplyanka would be a bit sexy too.
 
Forward option Suarez, Sturridge, Borini, Suso, Sterling, Konoplyanka would be a bit sexy too.


I'd like a bit better. Borini isn't good enough, Suso is yet to prove himself, and Kono is pretty much an unknown. I would love another player in there instead of Borini and I'd be quite happy.
 
Lallana would be a welcome addition, but we'll another body in there to give us a 'park the bus' defensive look, when we want to reverse the triangle in midfield and hold on to leads.
 
We'll get both Linnet and Lallana, I reckon Kono will be cheaper than we're expecting as well, what with the January debacle and the fact that Ukraine is up the shitter at the moment.
 
I hear what you're saying Mark, but Lallana's not that player. I think BR's view (and I share it) is that the days of one controlling Alonso-type in the centre of the ground to dictate tempo are over. You need 2-3 playrrs through the middle who can control the tempo and the ball the ball movement these days.

Alonso stopped being that one-out controller years ago cos opposing teams just put effort into him and negated his influence. He's more of a breaker-upper at Madrid these days too, where they rely on 2-3 players to control the game. Same at Barca, same at Bayern. There's no such thing as a one-man controlling type anymore.

We get Lallana, and then we've got serious ball-playing options in midfield; Gerrard, Lucas, Allen, Coutinho, Lallana, Hendo, Sterling - all comfortable in possession, and gives us alternatives every week.

Rotating dictators = the new black.
I'm beginning to think that I should have paid attention more to your blathering on at Anfield earlier this year. For all your bluster you do speak a lot of sense (about football at least) 😉
 
this is what my saints friend said about lallana...excuse his shocking grammar:

Adam was terrrifc for 2 seasons in league 1 & in the Championship, he was OK last season. To pay £20+ million for a player who has had 1 very good season in the Premier League is a massive gamble on Liverpools part.

I question his posistional sense as he drifts inside way to often when asked to play out wide, during our championship year & last season he left Danny Fox massively exposed on numerous occasions. He gets away with it a little more now as he had a world class left back behind him.

He certainly fades massively in the second half of games, it's no coincidence he is the most subbed player in the premier league this season.

£20+ Million is massive money for Lallana, make no mistake it's a gamble on Liverpools part.

1 good season does not a player make...
 
I worry what he says about positional sense, that seems like something essential in our set up, although I'm sure Rodgers can coach it into him.
 
As much as I love Aldo as he wears his heart on his sleeve.
He does talk a load of shite at times.
We ain't getting costa.
 
The point I'd take that Saints fan up on, though, is whether Lallana should ever have been asked to play wide in the first place. Despite the fact that some in the media persist in calling him a "winger", he isn't and hasn't ever been a true wide player. He's actually one of those skilful but hard-to-define players (Vlad Smicer being another example that comes to mind) who quite often get stuck out wide in English teams despite the fact that that's not their true position, because some clubs/managers don't really know what to do with them. I'm confident Rodgers won't make that mistake.

As far as the point about fading goes, our whole team was doing that earlier in the season just finished, but improved big-time in this respect as the season went on. Lallana would therefore be coming to a club which knows how to solve that problem successfully.
 
He could be our David Silva, that's how I see him in our team. Helping unlock defences and getting in the mix with some goals. £20m or less and I'd be delighted
 
I have to say I still don't quite see the point of this transfer. Is he really what we need? It's a lot of money.
 
I have to say I still don't quite see the point of this transfer. Is he really what we need? It's a lot of money.

It is a lot of money, but I expect more teams next season to sit deep against us, and we'll therefore need players like Lallana to create chances and have a bit of invention against them.
 
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