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We win a lot of prize money, have a bumper pay out from the CL to look forward to and splash our intentions all over the press. No wonder Saints are setting the fee high, they know we're good for it. I don't blame them, we'd be saying the say if someone we're trying to take our best player.

Do a deal this week or move on. Avoid the months of speculation and last day scramble scenario please.
 
There's too many red flags here for me, especially if we're paying 20M.

At that price point, this signing puts a pit in my stomach, there's a ton that can go wrong. There are a lot of players we could have for 20M, and I'm not convinced that Lallana is a better purchase.

20M isn't shrewd, smart, or sensible. That's more than the fee paid for Schurrle, Cazorla and Navas, for comparison. And it's not far off the price paid for Matic, Jovetic, and Negredo. Nasri went to City for 25M.
 
Anything above £20m and saints can fuck off. To pay anything more would be plain stupid. If they want more, just forget him and move onto the next target.
 
The difficulty with that is that there is a premium for English players. I'm not saying it's justified but, if there's an English player you want, like it or not it's something you have to factor in.
 
Judge Jules said:
The difficulty with that is that there is a premium for English players. I'm not saying it's justified but, if there's an English player you want, like it or not it's something you have to factor in.
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Then don't buy the English player?

It's not as if there isn't another player that would do as good a job, and wouldn't be cheaper and better value.
 
Ryan said:
Kewell had a history of injuries when he joined.
Litmanen was in his thirties and had the worst knees in football.
And most of us had never heard of Smicer before he signed.

Not really the best comparisons.
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Kewell was the most sought after player in England at the time and every single fan extremely excited we got him. He was superb for Leeds and an brilliant technically, litmanen joined at 30 still in his prime, again another gifted footballer with the ball at his feet and finally Smicer was well known after the Czechs run at euro 96 and he came off the back of winning a league title in France.
All 3 were arguable better ball players than Lallana but all failed. My point is there are no guarantees and for 20m it's definitely got it's risks and to say any different is crazy. He could flop if he doesn't start well.
 
Gerry_A_Trick said:
Then don't buy the English player?

It's not as if there isn't another player that would do as good a job, and wouldn't be cheaper and better value.
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Exactly.It's not like we're going to struggle to meet the requirements for homegrown players. I'm sure there are plenty of other players out there that are just as good as lallana who we can get for the price we want. £25m is definitely overpriced. £25m would be worth it if he was 21 not 26.
 
Litmanen didn't fail on the field. He fell foul of GH's "one strike and you're out" approach for (as GH saw it) challenging his authority. Agree otherwise.
 
Glen C said:
Exactly.It's not like we're going to struggle to meet the requirements for homegrown players. I'm sure there are plenty of other players out there that are just as good as lallana who we can get for the price we want. £25m is definitely overpriced. £25m would be worth it if he was 21 not 26.
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That line keeps getting trotted out, but actual names are conspicuous by their absence from the posts in question. I don't want to overpay for Lallana (or anybody else) either, but if Rodgers particularly wants this player we may need to be a bit more flexible than some of you lot seem willing to be.
 
Judge Jules said:
That line keeps getting trotted out, but actual names are conspicuous by their absence from the posts in question. I don't want to overpay for Lallana (or anybody else) either, but if Rodgers particularly wants this player we may need to be a bit more flexible than some of you lot seem willing to be.
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I just think that for a player that is 26 years old, seems to have stamina issues and (according to southampton fans) one of the most subbed players in the premiership who fades a lot in the 2nd half that £25m is too much him.
 
even if he has the skills does he have the bottle ? Cause he's not 20 so he'll have to perform pretty much straight away and handle the expectations. And say whatever but costing 25m means there is even more pressure .
 
Glen C said:
They're the same age so why? Lallana is more versatile than Mkhitaryan and personally i think he's the better player. Neither is worth over £20m IMO. Plus I can't see Mkhitaryan wanting to leave Dortmund.
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Mkhitaryan is just as versatile as Lallana and can play deeper in midfield than Lallana (he's also 25, but yeah, they're pretty much the same age). I don't know that he would want to leave Dortmund either... I would love to see us go in for Rakitic, but it sounds like he's going to extend his contract. In the end, I can't see Lallana going for "just" £20 million though... and I don't think it's going to be a signing that gets wrapped up anywhere near as quickly as the papers claim... at least that's not how history dictates the transfer will go, maybe things have changed.
 
Henrikh the Targaryan cost 22 mill last season, if Dortmund sell he'll cost more than 35 mill at least.
He's also owned by a third party which is legal in Germany.

20 mill for Lallana is okay.

Seeing as we finished 2nd and was shown live the most times in the league, we're looking at 99 mill in tv and prize money.
An increase of 49 mill or something. We got the money to spend.
 
Whirly said:
There's too many red flags here for me, especially if we're paying 20M.

At that price point, this signing puts a pit in my stomach, there's a ton that can go wrong. There are a lot of players we could have for 20M, and I'm not convinced that Lallana is a better purchase.

20M isn't shrewd, smart, or sensible. That's more than the fee paid for Schurrle, Cazorla and Navas, for comparison. And it's not far off the price paid for Matic, Jovetic, and Negredo. Nasri went to City for 25M.
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So,..... now that we've established that £20m+ is the going rate for a midfielder or attacker with talent....

.... all that's left to decide is if he's worth that wee bit more than we paid for Allen & Henderson.

Oh..... and will he have more of an impact than Acquilani?
 
StevieM said:
So,..... now that we've established that £20m+ is the going rate for a midfielder or attacker with talent....

.... all that's left to decide is if he's worth that wee bit more than we paid for Allen & Henderson.

Oh..... and will he have more of an impact than Acquilani?
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Schurrie cost chelsea £18m and he's 3 years younger and better than lallana IMO. Lallana is definitely not worth £25m.
 
Of all the likely things to happen this summer, I fear the phrase, 'Well, THAT was a bargain,' for a fan of any English club, is the least likely of all.
 
Llalana is overpriced but Rodgers will make a quick decision. The lads for all intents and purposes looks to want to play for us and choosing us over Utd validates that.
 
Glen C said:
Anything above £20m and saints can fuck off. To pay anything more would be plain stupid. If they want more, just forget him and move onto the next target.
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You have to pay a little more when a player is proven in the Premiership. Plus he is Southamptons captain and coming into his prime years (supposedly).... He's a better player then Henderson was when we bought him, and we spunked 20M on him!
 
Fuck me.

People are very unrealistic imo.

It's a world cup year, prices go up in those summers, always.

Utd need more than half a team & will be spending shitloads to attract players. Putting prices up.
Spurs will be buying one or two to appease their new manager, Chelsea will be buying three at least, Arsenal a couple & meanwhile city won't be satisfied winning buy just two points & will be determined to strengthen their grip in the league & get further again in the CL.

On top of all that competition you have the fact that cl revenue doubles next season. It's top 4 or bust for a few seasons for everyone but city & Chelsea cos of that & teams will be prepared to spend more than usual to secure that revenue & get in the top bracket again.
 
Jerry Laser said:
You have to pay a little more when a player is proven in the Premiership. Plus he is Southamptons captain and coming into his prime years (supposedly).... He's a better player then Henderson was when we bought him, and we spunked 20M on him!
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He's also a lot older than Henderson was, and is less likely to improve because of that.

Premiership proven is a load of balls too, as is using what we paid for other players to compare. You could compare him to Andy Carroll too, but I'm not sure what use that would be.
 
Lallana is approaching his prime as a player and is English. We would have gotten royally bummed for him in the past but our "transfer committee" seem to want to get more bang for their buck. But the saints have just apparently agreed 27 million with the scum for Luke Shaw and that fee could see them holding out for 25+ million. 15-20 million seems just about right to me with add ons based on title wins and lallanas individual tallies etc. But right now his position wouldn't be the first on my list to fill...but I'm sure we have targets in those other areas so I'm not worried 🙂
 
Premiership proven, fucking hell.
I'd rather get an unproven Konoplyanka for 15 million than Lallana for 25 or even 20 million.
 
Pesam said:
He's more consistent than Carzola, he's better than Navas and even though I quite like Schurrle I'd choose Lallana in preference if they were both the same price.
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Cazorla is not a hard worker either, Navas isn't anything special, Schurrle is though, looks a really nice player.

The thing about Lallanas stamina sounds a bit of a myth, haven't looked up the stats but have read elsewhere that he played over 80 minutes in 16 out of Saints last 20 games and that he has run further than Henderson this season, would presume they have similar minutes on the pitch this season seeing as they are both ever present for their teams, if that running stat is true then that kills the stamina issue stone dead.
 
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