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Adam Lallana

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Cazorla is not a hard worker either, Navas isn't anything special, Schurrle is though, looks a really nice player.

The thing about Lallanas stamina sounds a bit of a myth, haven't looked up the stats but have read elsewhere that he played over 80 minutes in 16 out of Saints last 20 games and that he has run further than Henderson this season, would presume they have similar minutes on the pitch this season seeing as they are both ever present for their teams, if that running stat is true then that kills the stamina issue stone dead.

All 38 league games, 3100 minutes played, i.e. averaging 81.58 minutes per game.
 
Premiership proven, fucking hell.
I'd rather get an unproven Konoplyanka for 15 million than Lallana for 25 or even 20 million.

They're not the same type of player though. In Lallana you get someone who can play every attacking position or central midfield for that matter. That versatility is worth a few extra bob imho.
 
They're not the same type of player though. In Lallana you get someone who can play every attacking position or central midfield for that matter. That versatility is worth a few extra bob imho.


Konoplyanka can play on both flanks and despite Lallana being versatile he's not worth that money. I'd rather buy two player Kono + 1 to cover Lallana's versatility.
 
Was an ever present in the league this season though. Started 37 games and played 3082 mins. That's equivalent to 34 full matches.
 
He's also playing in the most likely position to be subbed in during the last ten mins, cos you couldn't take off a defender, or defensive midfielder, & unless you're up by a couple not a striker either.

I wouldn't read too much into it, Coutinho is often subbed for the same reason.
 
He's a good player, but this deal is not without its risks. Overall, I'm happy if we sign him - just as long as he's not the marquee signing of the summer.

if we were to get in 5 players of his quality this Summer I'd be chuffed and we won't need any marquee signing.
 
We win a lot of prize money, have a bumper pay out from the CL to look forward to and splash our intentions all over the press. No wonder Saints are setting the fee high ......

Because they didn't know any of that beforehand ? We didn't need to splash our intentions, we contacted them remember 😉
 
Still only finished 20 of them. That's just over half for a alleged 25m player. Not exactly great.

He's also playing in the most likely position to be subbed in during the last ten mins, cos you couldn't take off a defender, or defensive midfielder, & unless you're up by a couple not a striker either.

I wouldn't read too much into it, Coutinho is often subbed for the same reason.


(Started 37) Of the 19 times he was subbed out: 12W 5D 2L

In the league (2013/14), only 15 outfield players played more mins than he did.
 
There's too many red flags here for me, especially if we're paying 20M.

At that price point, this signing puts a pit in my stomach, there's a ton that can go wrong. There are a lot of players we could have for 20M, and I'm not convinced that Lallana is a better purchase.

20M isn't shrewd, smart, or sensible. That's more than the fee paid for Schurrle, Cazorla and Navas, for comparison. And it's not far off the price paid for Matic, Jovetic, and Negredo. Nasri went to City for 25M.

And you think all of them are better than Lallana ?
 
Exactly.It's not like we're going to struggle to meet the requirements for homegrown players. I'm sure there are plenty of other players out there that are just as good as lallana who we can get for the price we want. £25m is definitely overpriced. £25m would be worth it if he was 21 not 26.

£25m isn't the price you pay for a 21 yo unless they are touted as one of Europe's best. It IS the price you pay for a high quality player in his prime though.
 
Not updated till end of season but its interesting nonetheless.
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[article=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2624264/Adam-Lallana-England-World-Cup-profile.html]KEY STAT: Lallana has created more chances than any other Englishman in the PL this term (71).[/article]

[article=http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/six-reasons-adam-lallana-liverpool-7112631?]The 26-year-old featured in every one of Southampton’s Premier League games this season, starting 37 and coming on as a sub in the other.

He made a total of 45 appearances (including three for England) in 2013-14 and played 30 times last season. He became a Saints regular in 2008-09, making 43 appearances, and made 56 the season after before playing 41 times and 46 in the next two campaigns.

He is one of the first names on Mauricio Pochettino’s teamsheet and has proved he can stand up to the rigours of Premier League football, despite his slight frame.

The fact Lallana has been a first-team regular with the Saints for six years means he has a wealth of experience, despite only turning 26 in early May.

His footballing education at Southampton has taken him from League One, through the Championship and Premier League, and to the international stage (he won the first of his three senior England caps last November).

Lallana has made 229 league appearances and, if he moves to Anfield this summer, he will be one of the most experienced midfield players on the club’s books.

Steven Gerrard (475) leads the way in terms of league appearances, of course, but Lallana has played more games in England than Lucas Leiva (176), Jordan Henderson (183), Joe Allen (183), Raheem Sterling (60) and Philippe Coutinho (46).[/article]
 
He covers almost as much ground as Henderson?!

Fucking hell, between them they'll have stood on ever blade of grass on the pitch in the first ten minutes.
 
Personally I don't need or want 'smarter purchases' this window. I want better players over 'better value for money'. Stop.

The point I'm making is that we don't have the resources to continually make mistakes in the transfer market by going after high risk targets at inflated prices.

If you aren't seeing the red flags with this signing, then you're just sticking your head in the sand. He may come good, but the inherent risk is higher than any of those targets mentioned, who are all either comparable or better.

This is exactly the sort of attitude that landed us Carroll, Downing, Adam, and Henderson. One (eventual) success, and three horrible failures. These aren't the risks we should be taking any more.
 
The point I'm making is that we don't have the resources to continually make mistakes in the transfer market by going after high risk targets at inflated prices.

If you aren't seeing the red flags with this signing, then you're just sticking your head in the sand. He may come good, but the inherent risk is higher than any of those targets mentioned, who are all either comparable or better.

This is exactly the sort of attitude that landed us Carroll, Downing, Adam, and Henderson. One (eventual) success, and three horrible failures. These aren't the risks we should be taking any more.


Tbf Downing wasn't a risk, he was fucking wank and everyone who knew anything about football knew it but you know some of our fellow fans.... head in the sand, happy go lucky and I believe in miracles.
 
His average speed would explain him being subbed so often. He does everything faster than every other player.
So you either accept that and lets face it its no bad thing, or you teach him to pace a game.
Either way its hardly an issue.
 
Tbf Downing wasn't a risk, he was fucking wank and everyone who knew anything about football knew it but you know some of our fellow fans.... head in the sand, happy go lucky and I believe in miracles.

You wanted Charles Fucking N'Zogbia instead of Downing knowitall.
 
The point I'm making is that we don't have the resources to continually make mistakes in the transfer market by going after high risk targets at inflated prices.

If you aren't seeing the red flags with this signing, then you're just sticking your head in the sand. He may come good, but the inherent risk is higher than any of those targets mentioned, who are all either comparable or better.

This is exactly the sort of attitude that landed us Carroll, Downing, Adam, and Henderson. One (eventual) success, and three horrible failures. These aren't the risks we should be taking any more.

Sorry Whirly but you seem to be thinking there are dead certs in the transfer market, well players like Veron and Shevchenko put that myth to bed. As far a being a success is concerned, forget about how much they cost and look at the likelihood of them succeeding at LFC. Lallana ticks a lot more boxes than any of those you've mentioned so is actually a far lower risk regardless of the price.
 
Jesus Whirly, I'm going to assume you have seen very little of Lallana to throw him into the same would-be category as Downing or Charlie fookin Adam.

There is no such thing as a risk free transfer, but Lallana for £20m as he enters what should be his prime is a relatively safe investment IMO.
 
Tbf Downing wasn't a risk, he was fucking wank and everyone who knew anything about football knew it but you know some of our fellow fans.... head in the sand, happy go lucky and I believe in miracles.
No, no one thought he was a good signing. Everyone thought he was wank.
 
… but still ended up with a useless player. Albeit for less.

and if it didn't work out we would sell him for about 4 million or something because he was younger than Downing as well.

Bring up Gary Cahill as well, count.
 
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