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His performances based on his fee haven't been great, compared to Fabregas, Sanchez ect who went for for £25 million plus.
 
If we could come up with a list of £25m players,
I'll bet Lallana is one of the worst on it.

So let's begin:

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Or there's another way of looking at it, if we'd bought Bojan for 2m instead - would our season have been any different
? (it's this question that's the real killer, if you're a banana fan)
 
Not that again.......though it is quite fun!

Modo spent last summer (and beyond) telling us who we could have signed instead.
 
We level criticism to Coutinho for not scoring more or creating more this should be leveled at Lallana even more. Whereas Coutinho stays on the outside of the area when we attack Lallana goes into the box looking for the goal, Coutinho is waiting for the block - so Lallana should be scoring more..
Who should score more ? A #10 or a winger / wing back ? Because that is where he has been played in every game for us .. whereas at Southampton he was #10. I agree with the point Ryan made above ... better strikers and he will contribute more. His chronic injury list (and pre-season don't forget) seems to have just been an isolated season, hopefully with a full pre-season and less injuries next season will be an improvement.
 
Frogfish is Ian Ayre

And Lallana is this decades David Bentley

Quote : Our five senses are incomplete without the sixth, a sense of humour. Unknown

Don't worry Ross, they do say that the loss of one of our senses will lead to a heightening of the remaining senses to attempt to compensate.
 
I think with a full pre-season under his belt and staying fit he'll be a good player for us. Not worth anywhere near what we paid, but then we underpaid for some, overpay for others.
 
Quote : Our five senses are incomplete without the sixth, a sense of humour. Unknown

Don't worry Ross, they do say that the loss of one of our senses will lead to a heightening of the remaining senses to attempt to compensate.

I haven't stopped laughing at your post about Lallana
 
Who should score more ? A #10 or a winger / wing back ? Because that is where he has been played in every game for us .. whereas at Southampton he was #10. I agree with the point Ryan made above ... better strikers and he will contribute more. His chronic injury list (and pre-season don't forget) seems to have just been an isolated season, hopefully with a full pre-season and less injuries next season will be an improvement.

Bollocks, he has played wingback about 4 times or according to whoscored.com never, the rest he has floated from out wide into the middle as have the others. The overall point remains he was a signing that we shouldn't have made and didn't need. The point about at Southampton he was the number 10 is because he was the man at Liverpool he is our 7 or 8th main man, sturridge, coutinho, sterling, ibe, gerrard and Henderson are all more important than him as they can play 90 mins and aren't always getting injured. Countinho & sterling are midgets but are more robust than him, we have enough sick notes.

He won't start next season so he won't contribute more, squad player nothing more.
 
Bojan has played in 16 games this season and been injured since January. All we would have gotten out of that is a mate for Sturridge.
 
Bollocks, he has played wingback about 4 times or according to whoscored.com never, the rest he has floated from out wide into the middle as have the others.
Which is exactly what winger/wing back means.

The overall point remains he was a signing that we shouldn't have made and didn't need. The point about at Southampton he was the number 10 is because he was the man at Liverpool he is our 7 or 8th main man, sturridge, coutinho, sterling, ibe, gerrard and Henderson are all more important than him as they can play 90 mins and aren't always getting injured. Countinho & sterling are midgets but are more robust than him, we have enough sick notes.
Hansern showed his average game time at Southampton was 81+ mins, BR pulls him because he's often either recovering from injury (this season) as he does with all players or, for whatever reason, he never wants to sub off the other obvious option, Sterling, regardless of how well each are playing.
 
Which is exactly what winger/wing back means.

Hansern showed his average game time at Southampton was 81+ mins, BR pulls him because he's often either recovering from injury (this season) as he does with all players or, for whatever reason, he never wants to sub off the other obvious option, Sterling, regardless of how well each are playing.

At his last club he only got an orange.
 
Bojan has played in 16 games this season and been injured since January. All we would have gotten out of that is a mate for Sturridge.

And scored how many?

I'd take that for 2m over what we got from Lallana for 25m
 
Which is exactly what winger/wing back means.

Hansern showed his average game time at Southampton was 81+ mins, BR pulls him because he's often either recovering from injury (this season) as he does with all players or, for whatever reason, he never wants to sub off the other obvious option, Sterling, regardless of how well each are playing.

And do you not think the playing 81 mins on average might have something to do with the injuries this season?
 
And do you not think the playing 81 mins on average might have something to do with the injuries this season?
Or maybe he runs a lot because he isn't particularly bright and ends up burning himself out.
 
I like Lallana. I enjoy watching the silky bastard play. I don't get the Lallana hate. He gives his all and is one of our most committed players. Yeah he's a bit frail and light but he doesn't shirk a tackle or responsibility in anyway. I cannot knock him for effort and he didn't set his transfer fee. I don't think he'll ever justify that price tag but he's a very good player. I'm hoping he has a proper pre season over the summer and a striker to play with. You never know, he might even complete 90 mins one day.
 
The arguments used to support Lallana is very similar to the arguments used to support Garcia, Benayoun. With Garcia ( whom I absolutely love, by the way) I remember lots of posts along the lines of "If he does not give the ball away, or has more consistency, he will be Ronaldinho".

Basically if the player does not have the attribute X and develops attribute Y, he will be in Suarez, Neymar class. Problem is that such players will never develop that attribute Y to take it to the next level.

Lallana is a good player whose value should be of the order of 6-12 million. But the problem is that we significantly overpaid for him. Not his fault.
 
That business of the fee tends to confuse this discussion though. I doubt there's a single poster who doesn't accept that the fee was too high. The problem comes when some make a leap from saying "We paid too much" to then saying "therefore Lallana's not good enough", which just doesn't follow.
 
I like him. I think he's technically a good player and could play a part in the side but his appearances have been in fits and starts and there's obvious fitness issues. Never in a million years worth what we paid though.
 
That business of the fee tends to confuse this discussion though. I doubt there's a single poster who doesn't accept that the fee was too high. The problem comes when some make a leap from saying "We paid too much" to then saying "therefore Lallana's not good enough", which just doesn't follow.


I can't remember who, but there were a lot of people last summer saying that the price was fair.

I don't disagree with your point, but you can't ignore the amount we pay. Whatever we overpaid on Lallana stopped us from spending elsewhere.
 
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