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Aaron Lennon

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I thought at the time that his "signing for Everton" photo was a quite obvious cry for help. Look at his eyes.

He should be holding up a sign that says "I am in the grip of a despair so black and deep that I can't even articulate it"
 
As someone who has suffered from both suicidal & debilitating depression throughout his life at various times, it's worrying how much I laughed at some of the posts in this thread.

Reason being, if I can find some of these comments funny despite knowing & fully understanding the implications of that, then how can anyone else be expected to understand that?

It makes me feel both guilty & complicit.

Although not so much as the cunts who wrote that daily mail piece. How any journalist could put their name to that is utterly beyond me, esp when their peers are dealing with it properly.
 
As someone who has suffered from both suicidal & debilitating depression throughout his life at various times, it's worrying how much I laughed at some of the posts in this thread.

Reason being, if I can find some of these comments funny despite knowing & fully understanding the implications of that, then how can anyone else be expected to understand that?

It makes me feel both guilty & complicit.

Although not so much as the cunts who wrote that daily mail piece. How any journalist could put their name to that is utterly beyond me, esp when their peers are dealing with it properly.
Firstly, glad to hear youre out the other side in one piece, by the looks of it. .

It does seem increasingly common to come across people that have suffered from mental inflictions such as those you describe, is life getting mentally harder ? Its obviously ney on impossible to answer; Its rapidly going from stigma to just a part of life, i've lost count of the colleagues past and present i have had that have had some period off work from stress or depression

I cant work out if it coming to the fore is good or bad.
 
I suspect that it's just more acceptable to speak about it.

My dad & all his family suffered bad depression, but it usually called 'one of those moods', despite me realising now he was often clinically depressed. Bex nan is suffering very bad depression & has been for a year or more but just says she's tried & it's cos she's getting old, & most of he older me members of the family keep saying shit like "She'll get over, she just needs to try more".

Our generation is the first one to realise & embrace the fact that depression isn't just a bad mood or feeling under the weather, & needs to be dealt with seriously, & we're much less likely to think less of someone for admitting it, so I think it's obvious that a lot more people would be prepared to openly admit they struggle.

And yeah, I'm much better now, still have shitty days or even weeks, but I have coping mechanisms & a support network in place, thank you for saying so.
 
I cant work out if it coming to the fore is good or bad.

It is definitely a good thing that the stigma of these kind of problems is diminishing, and people feel prepared to talk about these issues. I think that's a big step to recovery, and makes it, in turn, easier for other people to deal with mental health issues. There's no doubt that life, for a large number of reasons, is becoming increasingly stressful in all kinds of arenas. I think most people are a little unhinged at times– as my da used to say " they're all mad apart from thee and me, and I'm not too sure about thee".
 
There's some horribly amazing stat that the biggest killer of men 16-34 in the UK isn't cancer or whatever, but suicide

It is far higher than the equivalent age demographic for women, and many theories suggest it is that male stigma about sharing, talking and admitting problems, and being uncomfortable about emotions

But there's also the fact that if a man decides to kill himself, he does it properly and doesn't fuck it up
 
Pride in a job well done, eh?

Planning and preparation.

Seriously though, I think it's more because it isn't planned and more opportunistic, hence the amount of trains/ bridges, but that also the lack of planning and warning beforehand means friends and family are less vigilant
 
There was that guy last week that tried to jump off the pedestrian flyover in Golders green, i dont think the fall would've killed him unless he was planning on diving head first but props to those people that held on to him for however long before the police effectively tied him to the bridge until the fire crew could get there

That'd be me, the non-commital suicidee. I do find it depressingly staggering how frequently the tube is ballsed up by a potential suicide effort.
 
I've a mate who works in Sydney as a fireman - He told me that their (rather flippant) phrase for train suicides is 'Track Pizza' - It happens so often. Where I live there are train suicides every month. Nearly all of them are blokes around 30 years old. Mental health is a massive issue and depression is fucking shit. Any awareness of it and empathy can only be a good thing. Bastard of an illness.
 
I'm pretty sure most tube efforts are successful
Yeah and then im stuck on a tube for hours.
Im glad those cunts die. Selfish pricks.

I guess its hard for me to understand suicidal thoughts because life is so boss. I think like the loss of a child or homelessness/joblessness would push me to think about it, but Its hard for me to wrap my head around it for say Aaron Lennon.

Like go to a burrito place, watch some porn, have a Hendricks, Watch some sport, Book a holiday, have a pub lunch.
Life has a lot of win.
 
Actually I dont think it would. It would just send me off on the road travelling or some shit.
 
Have to say I don't like the way the exact terminology is being used over and over "detained under the mental health act" - something a bit more delicate would probably be less harsh for him and his family to see over the press.

I wonder what the reaction is like at EFC - they surely have a role to play here. The stress most likely sourced from his standing in the squad, transfer window looming, has he integrated well with other players etc etc.
 
Well, we do that sort of stuff, and it's great until you go home and lie in bed, thinking and worrying about shit. Then it starts all over. Easier said.
 
Have to say I don't like the way the exact terminology is being used over and over "detained under the mental health act" - something a bit more delicate would probably be less harsh for him and his family to see over the press.

I wonder what the reaction is like at EFC - they surely have a role to play here. The stress most likely sourced from his standing in the squad, transfer window looming, has he integrated well with other players etc etc.

Agreed. Softer language would be kinder to him and his family

It's not far removed from 'dragged off to the loony bin'
 
Yeah and then im stuck on a tube for hours.
Im glad those cunts die. Selfish pricks.
Bit fucking harsh that lad..... Unless you're being sarcastic and in which case it's poor form and unfunny.
 
Bit fucking harsh that lad..... Unless you're being sarcastic and in which case it's poor form and unfunny.
No im not being sarcastic. I dont see how it could be construed as such.
Anyone who wants to kill themselves by fucking up other peoples lives is a cunt and im glad they die.

Also anyone who causes an accident on a motorway deserves to die.
Its a fucking straight line. You literally have to stop and go.
 
No im not being sarcastic. I dont see how it could be construed as such.
Anyone who wants to kill themselves by fucking up other peoples lives is a cunt and im glad they die.

Also anyone who causes an accident on a motorway deserves to die.
Its a fucking straight line. You literally have to stop and go.

What about if brakes fail? What about if a tyre blows out? What happens if you find a big fuck off spider in the footwell? Do they all deserve to die too?
 
No im not being sarcastic. I dont see how it could be construed as such.
Anyone who wants to kill themselves by fucking up other peoples lives is a cunt and im glad they die.

Also anyone who causes an accident on a motorway deserves to die.
Its a fucking straight line. You literally have to stop and go.
Heh - So by that reckoning if someone has a heart attack on the tube and dies or some poor soul has a stroke while driving on the motorway and swerves into the barrier and causes a massive delay. Are they both 'cunts'? Don't be a tit. Mental health is exactly that - a health issue. No worries if you don't get it. Lots don't.
 
No. Maybe you dont understand what I meant by causes. I mean is at fault.
If someone has a stroke or their brakes fail I hope they are fine ok?
 
No. Maybe you dont understand what I meant by causes. I mean is at fault.
If someone has a stroke or their brakes fail I hope they are fine ok?
You seem an intelligent enough chap so I won't try and educate you - I'm sure you'll figure it out eventually. I'm being deliberately condescending because you deserve it. See ya gorgeous. *blows kiss*
 
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