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WWIII Return of the Ruskie



Zelensky speaking in Washington just now. Rest of his explanation really shows the gulf in Western mentality vs authoritarian (some historians call it “continental”).
 
Can America really fund two wars at the same time?
Russia where supposed to wipe out Ukraine in a matter of weeks and the Didn't.
Lots of ppl then said they could last the long haul. Looks like they managed and maybe have the upper hand? (I really don't know) though I did read that Ukraine is now drafting in lots of older people.
Zelenskys popularity has dropped also.

On the other hand Israel, the middle Eastern outpost. Need help getting rid of Hamas but have a super unpopular leader and possibly govt in charge. While Russia/Ukraine is fairly reguon restricted Israel/Palestine could blow up the whole region which would be super mental.
 
Can America really fund two wars at the same time?
Russia where supposed to wipe out Ukraine in a matter of weeks and the Didn't.
Lots of ppl then said they could last the long haul. Looks like they managed and maybe have the upper hand? (I really don't know) though I did read that Ukraine is now drafting in lots of older people.
Zelenskys popularity has dropped also.

On the other hand Israel, the middle Eastern outpost. Need help getting rid of Hamas but have a super unpopular leader and possibly govt in charge. While Russia/Ukraine is fairly reguon restricted Israel/Palestine could blow up the whole region which would be super mental.

Russia/Ukraine is not “region restricted” - they are already openly talking about annexing the Baltics and Poland and Moldova etc. When they are successful with that, they will go further West. Ukraine is a line in the sand against a spreading fire, probably the last defensible line.
 
Russia/Ukraine is not “region restricted” - they are already openly talking about annexing the Baltics and Poland and Moldova etc. When they are successful with that, they will go further West. Ukraine is a line in the sand against a spreading fire, probably the last defensible line.

Dayum, do they have the capability to attack Poland also?
And there's no way they're getting to Portugal.

Well that's mental
 
Dayum, do they have the capability to attack Poland also?
And there's no way they're getting to Portugal.

Well that's mental

With North Korean/Chinese ammunition aplenty, why not? Putin is still working on getting more foot soldiers for his wars, Russia’s demographics are terrible, so he needs allies - maybe Middle East could be a fertile recruiting ground. Anyone who hates the West and doesn’t value their life too highly will do.
 
I remember posting something similar on how Russia was deliberately destabilising countries in order to generate more refugees. Some idiot said it wasn't true...
 
Russia/Ukraine is not “region restricted” - they are already openly talking about annexing the Baltics and Poland and Moldova etc. When they are successful with that, they will go further West. Ukraine is a line in the sand against a spreading fire, probably the last defensible line.

Who is it who's talking about going further? Is it those mentalist Putin cheerleaders like Solovyov on TV or people with real clout, and what do they think they'd gain from it?
 
Who is it who's talking about going further? Is it those mentalist Putin cheerleaders like Solovyov on TV or people with real clout, and what do they think they'd gain from it?

Literally EVERYONE - it’s hard to find a prominent Russian politician or official who hasn’t issued some kind of threat. For instance now they are talking about Alaska:

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[article]”Did you want a new world order? Here you go. Venezuela is annexing its 24th state, Guyana-Essekibo. This is happening right under the nose of the once great hegemon USA. All that's left is for Mexico to take back Texas and the rest [of the territories]. It's time for Americans to think about their future, and also about Alaska [Russian flag emoji] .”[/article]
China’s support makes them feel like anything is possible. They think the West is weak and divided and won’t withstand a serious challenge.
 
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[article]Prigozhin's murder was organized by Nikolay Patrushev, Secretary of the Security Council of Russia - The Wall Street Journal. According to the WSJ, Patrushev warned Putin that relying on Prigozhin and his mercenaries in the war with Ukraine was giving Prigozhin more and more influence and posing a threat to the Kremlin. When Prigozhin started the mutiny, Patrushev saw it as an opportunity to get rid of the PMC head permanently.

Patrushev started warning Putin about the danger of Prigozhin back in the summer of 2022, according to the WSJ, but Putin did not listen to him as the Wagnerites were making progress on the battlefield. According to the publication's interlocutor, a former Russian intelligence officer, that changed in October 2022. That's when Prigozhin allegedly called Putin and complained in crude terms about ammunition shortages leading to heavy casualties. Patrushev was in Putin's office at the time, the WSJ source claims. The head of the Security Council felt that Prigozhin had become dangerous and no longer respected the Kremlin's authority. Putin ignored Prigozhin's subsequent complaints about the supply and including public conflicts with Russia's military leadership - and did not answer any calls from the head of the PMC, the WSJ writes.

In June 2023, when Prigozhin started the mutiny, Patrushev "took control," according to the material. The head of the Security Council called officers sympathetic to Prigozhin and asked them to persuade the head of Wagner PMC to stop the mutiny, according to the WSJ sources. Patrushev was also looking for mediators to resolve the conflict in neighboring countries. In addition to Lukashenko (who eventually became such a mediator), it was the president of Kazakhstan Kassym-Jomart Tokayev. In case the Russian army could not contain the mercenaries, Kazakhstan's armed forces were supposed to help - as a return favor for the introduction of CSTO forces in January 2022, the WSJ sources claim. Tokayev, however, refused.

After the rebellion ended, Patrushev began to develop an assassination plan. According to the publication's sources from Western intelligence services, Putin was later shown these plans and he did not object. On August 23, the head of the PMC waited at Sheremetyevo airport until his plane was checked and prepared for departure. At that moment, a small bomb was planted under the wing, according to the WSJ interlocutors in the Western intelligence services. The bomb exploded half an hour after takeoff at an altitude of about 8,500 meters. All ten people on board were killed. The Kremlin denies involvement in Prigozhin's death.
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Patrushev has been touted (in some quarters anyway) as Putin's eventual successor, hasn't he?

Yes, he is an older/crazier version of Putin. I read a few interviews with him - he sounds utterly insane. Or maybe that’s an image they are trying to present.

Interesting that the thought of collateral damage with their chosen method of killing Prigozhin - the pilots, the poor stewardess who happened to be working on that plane etc - never really entered their calculations. For them those people don’t exist.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...alny-discovered-in-remote-arctic-penal-colony


The jailed Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny has been located in a remote prison colony above the Arctic Circle after going missing for nearly three weeks, his aides have said.

Navalny was tracked down to the IK-3 penal colony in Kharp in the Yamal-Nenets region, about 1,200 miles north-east of Moscow, his spokesperson Kira Yarmysh said on Monday. “We have found Alexei Navalny,” she wrote on Twitter/X.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...alny-discovered-in-remote-arctic-penal-colony


The jailed Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny has been located in a remote prison colony above the Arctic Circle after going missing for nearly three weeks, his aides have said.

Navalny was tracked down to the IK-3 penal colony in Kharp in the Yamal-Nenets region, about 1,200 miles north-east of Moscow, his spokesperson Kira Yarmysh said on Monday. “We have found Alexei Navalny,” she wrote on Twitter/X.

Polar bear prison
 
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Losses of the Russian navy so far. Worth nothing that around half of these ships are in various stages of disrepair and not fully operational. The ones that were destroyed were the most sea-worthy ones.
 
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