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Would you sell Henderson?

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moron said:
Sell him. As people have said - hard and honest but not talented or creative enough.
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During the first few seasons of Henderson tenure here my main complaint was that he was either a chicken or a passenger.
He pretty much just ran around. Nowadays he's less of a chicken but back to being a passenger again and that bothers the fuck out of me.
I mean what's the point?
 
cloggypop said:
Riechedly Bazoer wouldn't cost 50 million but he might in the future. Plays as either box to box or holding midfielder for Ajax. Does everything well, including scoring a few goals. He's still only 19 but is currently being watched by Barcelona, Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City.
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Check out Youri Tielemans.
 
Modo said:
During the first few seasons of Henderson tenure here my main complaint was that he was either a chicken or a passenger.
He pretty much just ran around. Nowadays he's less of a chicken but back to being a passenger again and that bothers the fuck out of me.
I mean what's the point?
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If Spurs offered us £25m for Henderson or Lucas, who would you sell?
 
manwithnoname said:
If Spurs offered us £25m for Henderson or Lucas, who would you sell?
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Obviously Lucas, but despite the hate towards him, he's arguably played his role better than Henderson has.
I don't expect goals or assists from Lucas, but I do expect that from Henderson considering that he plays in an advanced role.
 
willby said:
CL or no, Leicester are facing an uphill battle holding on to him & Mahrez. 100m for the two should just abt do it, I reckon.
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Slightly over-valued there methinks.

22-25m for Mahrez and 30-35m for Kante is more realistic and even that may be over-doing it.
 
Henderson was excellent for us in the 13/14 season, and I still think we would have won the league had he not been sent off against City.

Henderson should be quite far down the line when it comes to players we should replace.
I'm guessing its a moot point anyway as Klopp probably isnt looking to sell.
 
Modo said:
Who is it acceptable to sell him to in England?
I mean if you think Henderson is wank or average does it matter? Won't he go to whoever and stink up the place?

If we get Mkhitaryan or Kroos or some other top class midfielder Hendo can go to Man U for all I care.
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Anyone but Spurs really. I think he'd do well there and they have recruited well over the past couple seasons. I'd fear that he would become an integral part of that side in a way that I wouldn't fear at United, Chelsea or City.

I think he's a very good player but wouldn't be upset at selling him if we could get a genuine upgrade. Just not to Spurs. Unless they paid an absolutely ridiculous fee.
 
Frogfish said:
Slightly over-valued there methinks.

22-25m for Mahrez and 30-35m for Kante is more realistic and even that may be over-doing it.
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Its clubs like Chelsea & City who'll be after them, that and the silly money from TV will drive up the prices.
 
There's also a lack of quality midfielders like kante, whereas floaty creative types are popular at the minute.
 
I wouldn't sell to Spurs as it will strengthen (in some degree) a rival. That said, I think there are better players we could have than him, but we should at least keep him in the squad. The whole captaincy thing has warped things as it overstates his importance but its hard to see who else should have had it either.
 
doctor_mac said:
No chance. He's a leader on the pitch, he gives his all, and is capable of moments of genuine quality.
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See, I just don't see the first bit. At all.

But I'll give you the other two. The year we nearly won it, the amount and quality of his assists was underrated.
 
We need a proper nasty bastard in midfield who can create and gee up the team - a la Souness, but obviously I'm aware that there's not many like him around anymore.

Henderson is a good squad player but will he get us to the next level? I don't think so. Plus I don't think he tackles enough or gets stuck in enough. I know people will disagree but, that's my take on him.
 
It's simple for me - if we can/do get an upgrade as a regular starter, keep him in the squad for rotation and cover. Why do some folks seem to think it has to be one-in one-out? You do that when the incumbent is rubbish, not when he's a very good player who can contribute a lot to the team.

If / When the team has the likes of Skrtel, Flanagan, Henderson, Milner, Lallana, Ings, etc. for rotation and cover, we know we're back to being a regular top four team and title challenger. Can we afford to have these players not being regular starters? We already have a 32m striker on the bench, a 16m bum out on loan, a 20m youngster on loan in Turkey and (when Skrtel returns to the starting lineup) a 20m or 17m CB as a sub. So, erm, yeah, seems to me we can stomach that financially, provided we can move these unwanted guys out to balance things up while we shift those incumbent starters onto the bench. Will these guys be happy? That's for Klopp to manage and earn his pay. Injuries and player form will always ensure they get a good share of games anyway. Just ask Lucas.

The replacement cost doesn't necessarily have to be sky high too - the likes of Coutinho, Kante, Mahrez, Payet, Wijnaldum, Alderweireld, etc. illustrate that.

Add pieces to the puzzle, not just changing the pieces and leaving gaps still in it.
 
Spionkop69 said:
See, I just don't see the first bit. At all.

But I'll give you the other two. The year we nearly won it, the amount and quality of his assists was underrated.
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He's constantly talking to the players around him, encouraging them, making calls on the pitch, and he was doing that before SG left. That tackle where Sterling was Flannoed, you saw Henderson encouraging Flanno for his bone shuddering challenge. He's doing that kind of thing all the time. When people are dithering on throws, Hendo points where he wants them to put it half the time. I think he's much more of a leader in terms of vocal leadership than SG ever was.

Edit: Obviously he doesn't lead the way in terms of dragging the team by sheer footballing brilliance the way SG did, but there you go.
 
So hendo looked class when in 13/14 when we had world class players.

Take those players out and he reverts to type.
 
Hes like our Ambrosini of AC Milan....

not quite sure what he does but he does it to a level that you know you should keep him.
 
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