You lads need to realize that Jonjo will be sold to Sheffield United in two years for an undisclosed sum. He's not going to replace Gerrard.
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in the past 3 transfer windows amoung our signings have been
downing - 20mil
carroll - 35mil
adam - 8mil
henderson - 16mil
and we'd be comfortable selling gerrard and suarez because it would fetch a lot of money which could then be reinvested into the squad?
downing - 20mil
carroll - 35mil
adam - 8mil
henderson - 16mil
and we'd be comfortable selling gerrard and suarez because it would fetch a lot of money which could then be reinvested into the squad?
You're still missing the point!!! I'm not saying we should sell Gerrard now. It's too late - he's not worth anything now - just as it's too late to sell Kuyt. I'm not even saying we should definitely have sold him 2 years ago (apart from anything else, our particular circs were extraordinary) because for a legend like him I think there's a case for a bit of sentimentality, just that we'd almost certainly be better off on the pitch if we had. It's the same argument I made about Kuyt a while ago: in 2 years Gerrard has lost at least £20m in value, that's £10m a year (duh). That's about what Real Madrid will end up paying for Ronaldo if they let him go for nothing at the end of his stay. Has Gerrard's contribution these last 2 years been equivalent to Ronaldo's?
The point about grooming the youngsters is illogical. It's not a question of either/or - we should be doing both. If it's so easy to replace Gerrard or Carra with a youngster then why can't you do for a winger (which we obviously can anyway because by far and away our best prospect, Sterling, is in line to fill exactly that long-term problem position)? There's no logical reason that a position where we already have a Gerrard or a Carra can be more easily earmarked for replacement by a youngster than any other position. The academy is essentially just one big calculated gamble: you can no more tell which players will come through in which position than which first team signings will flourish and which will flop. That doesn't mean you don't carry on investing in it, because I'm passionately for us doing that, but you have to be realistic about the unpredictability of the returns.
good post.
Damn right it would.
He's Kenny without a Rush
Well someone sell him some cocaine
Yah but Ross would never sell Kenny.
You can argue all day long that a player is overrated and not all that. To some small extent you're always going to be right as few players don't get hyped up when they're good.
Then there is always the chance that the player in question does turn out to be shit or that that things fall into place if he leaves and you get a big "Fuck you, I was right" pay off.
Forum moneyball baby.
Then there is always the chance that the player in question does turn out to be shit or that that things fall into place if he leaves and you get a big "Fuck you, I was right" pay off.
Forum moneyball baby.
build the team around a non prolific forward?
Yes, if you hadnt noticed he creates almost everything. Add some attacking talent and a striker who can score some goals, then you might just see some fluent football with goals from more than 2 players.
Suarez will score loads more goals if we add better players around him. At the moment he is creating his own space far to often. And next year he's due a bit of luck, and will get 20 goals in the league.
Suarez will score loads more goals if we add better players around him. At the moment he is creating his own space far to often. And next year he's due a bit of luck, and will get 20 goals in the league.
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If we sell Suarez its a fucking catastrophe. It will be another backward step for the club, and will cement Liverpool as a mid table selling club.
...which in turn will mean the best players won't want to come to us anyway.
Is spider turning into a troll?
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This Summer is so crucial to the future of the club. If we do not buy and sell correctly, then we will be left further behind.
No, he's just acting the goat.
I'm a troll because I don't think the team should be built around suarez...okay then.
we need to figure out what style of play we are going to utilise because I don't think we have yet, and then the most important person to that style of play, that is the person you build the team around. we were absolutely right to built the team around torres I don't think we should build the team around he isn't prolific enough for that. troll...fucking whatever 🙄
we need to figure out what style of play we are going to utilise because I don't think we have yet, and then the most important person to that style of play, that is the person you build the team around. we were absolutely right to built the team around torres I don't think we should build the team around he isn't prolific enough for that. troll...fucking whatever 🙄
Whatever style that suits Suarez, should be the style we use.
If we sell Suarez in order to use a style suited for Carroll, we mind as well get Pulis to manage the team.
course I don't. I actually think he is the single most talented player in our squad (well, maybe not gerrard) but I don't think he is the most effective player in the squad. for example I think bellamy is more effective in front of goal than suarez. I think suarez needs to get his head up more, do simple things more often then audacious things and pass to the players better positioned than himself. he does that then I'm sure he will fill his boots both with goals and assists.
who said the team should be built around carroll?
whoever is most likely to bring us most goals and assists, that is the person to build the team around. that person used to be torres and before that it was gerrard and before that it was owen.
if suarez adapted his game to score 20 goals a season, then sure, build the team around him but there is no way on this earth I would build the team around suarez in the 'hope' he becomes a 20 a season striker.
the annoying thing is we spent 35m on carroll, you'd expect to build the team around the player that cost so much but we'd become a kick and rush team solely playing to carroll's strengths.
we need to see who we get in the summer before deciding which playing style we are going to adapt.
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