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Why is FIFA run by morons?

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England have been banned from wearing poppies in their upcoming friendly against Spain by FIFA.

The Football Association wanted the players to wear the emblem on their shirts when they play the world champions next Saturday, but the world governing body has ruled that no changes can be made to official kit.

On Friday night a string of war heroes and charities condemned the decision as ‘absolutely wrong’ and an insult to those who fought and died in the name of freedom.

The Football Association had asked for special dispensation to allow poppies to be sewn into England shirts for the game – a day before Remembrance Sunday.

But FIFA stuck to its hardline stance, arguing that allowing additional marks to be made to team kit would lead to a string of other countries making requests to commemorate events on their national shirts.

The decision will further discredit FIFA, which has faced numerous corruption allegations in recent years and seen two of its executives depart following a bribery scandal.

President Sepp Blatter has been at odds with the English FA after it raised questions about his running of the organisation.

Campaigners have called on the England players to defy the ruling.

They point out that it is not unusual for national teams to wear black armbands to commemorate influential figures in the game and wider society.

All 20 Premier League clubs will have the Royal British Legion emblem on their shirts in the run-up to the anniversar
 
they should just do it anyway .....fuck the wankers . I mean even if they get a fine who cares .

It is tiring that football is run by useless fools , we need an "Occupy Fifa" .
 
It isn't just FIFA though. It seems to be a necessary qualification for a job in many sports' governing bodies that you're a weapons-grade tw@t whose real priority is to feather your own nest and those of your pals.
 
[quote author=RedZeppelin link=topic=47415.msg1421800#msg1421800 date=1320485437]
they should just do it anyway .....fuck the wankers . I mean even if they get a fine who cares .

It is tiring that football is run by useless fools , we need an "Occupy Fifa" .
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This.

No offence to anyone but I'm sick of us having to restrict our own culture, traditions & history for fear of offending anyone, or in this instance, influencing people. It seems everyone else can do what the fuck they like and woe betide anyone who says otherwise, but we try to celebrate or commemorate aspects of our history & we have to put a lid on it.

Fucking joke.

And yes, all footballing bodies are full of corrupt wankers, non moreso than those Gobshite's at Fifa.
 
Ridiculous. Its only a friendly anyway! If both teams are happy with it then what's the problem?

Just seems spiteful to me, but I'm quite glad in some ways that the FA are 'at odds' with FIFA
 
The FA are at odds with FIFA

The clubs are at odds with the FA.

No ones ever going to be happy and get their own way
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=47415.msg1421828#msg1421828 date=1320490888]
The FA are at odds with FIFA

The clubs are at odds with the FA.

No ones ever going to be happy and get their own way
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Apart from Ferguson of course. Well, maybe not the happy part - he's incapable of that
 
why don't they just wear black armbands with poppies on them? problem solved?
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47415.msg1421930#msg1421930 date=1320502560]
I think FIFA is right.
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I agree.
 
rCrRWC
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=47415.msg1421938#msg1421938 date=1320503795]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47415.msg1421930#msg1421930 date=1320502560]
I think FIFA is right.
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I agree.
[/quote]Me too.
I also couldnt give a fuck. And the mewling fucking cabbages whining on about the disolution of our history and heritage and the 'slap in the face to the troops' wank can go and fuck.
HOW DARE THEY HOW DARE THEY!!
Its a football game.


Ps-Fifa are still cunts and I hate them.
 
FIFA have said its 'because it will upset the Germans'

The Germans said 'Its no problem, we understand its to respect all war dead and have no objections'

FIFA said 'We have made our decision and its final'
 
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47415.msg1423983#msg1423983 date=1320869144]
FIFA have said its 'because it will upset the Germans'

The Germans said 'Its no problem, we understand its to respect all war dead and have no objections'

FIFA said 'We have made our decision and its final'
[/quote]Hahahaha.
 
It's not just the Germans though surely? British soldiers have killed people in lots of countries since 1918.
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47415.msg1424003#msg1424003 date=1320871712]
It's not just the Germans though surely? British soldiers have killed people in lots of countries since 1918.
[/quote]Yup. My moneys on the Iraqi and Afgan FA's not being 'ok' with it.
 
I used to think the poppy was a great idea, until the last few years and all this filthy help-the-heroesiness and wootton bassetisation of the remembrance thing has kicked in, and people on TV are made pariahs if they don't wear one. There used to be a conflict in my head between supporting the conscripts of the world wars and appearing to support the current bunch of incursions, but since the vast majority of WW2 veterans are now dead and gone, so's the debate.
 
[quote author=Woland link=topic=47415.msg1424009#msg1424009 date=1320872559]
I used to think the poppy was a great idea, until the last few years and all this filthy help-the-heroesiness and wootton bassetisation of the remembrance thing has kicked in, and people on TV are made pariahs if they don't wear one. There used to be a conflict in my head between supporting the conscripts of the world wars and appearing to support the current bunch of incursions, but since the vast majority of WW2 veterans are now dead and gone, so's the debate.
[/quote]Is the (as per) bang on, correct and rightful answer.
Hero's my cock!! Theres nothing heroic about shitting in someones pint in a boozer in Aldershot.
 
And that EDL gobshite with his stupid fucking banner, him and his Muslamic Raygun spouting dipshit of a gang, fucking victim culture, that's what it is. You're no one unless you identify with a victimised sub-group. Of course, if you're a white male, you're kind of screwed. But no fear, let's create the victim mentality. Yeah, that's the ticket. No one has any fucking responsibility for anything. Everyone is a goddamn victim. Cry me a fucking river. Drop the fucking bombs already.
 
I've heard that we've got a home game in February where there currently isn't a one minute silence booked in yet.
 
[quote author=Woland link=topic=47415.msg1424009#msg1424009 date=1320872559]
I used to think the poppy was a great idea, until the last few years and all this filthy help-the-heroesiness and wootton bassetisation of the remembrance thing has kicked in, and people on TV are made pariahs if they don't wear one. There used to be a conflict in my head between supporting the conscripts of the world wars and appearing to support the current bunch of incursions, but since the vast majority of WW2 veterans are now dead and gone, so's the debate.
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Sums it up pretty well.
 
Now, two boys have been found rubbing linseed oil into the school cormorant. Now, some of you may feel that the cormorant does not play an important part in the life of the school, but I would remind you that it was presented to us by the Corporation of the town of Sudbury to commemorate Empire Day, when we try to remember the names of all those from the Sudbury area who so gallantly gave their lives to keep China British. So, from now on, the cormorant is strictly out of bounds! Oh, and Jenkins, apparently your mother died this morning.
 
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=47415.msg1424031#msg1424031 date=1320875775]
Now, two boys have been found rubbing linseed oil into the school cormorant. Now, some of you may feel that the cormorant does not play an important part in the life of the school, but I would remind you that it was presented to us by the Corporation of the town of Sudbury to commemorate Empire Day, when we try to remember the names of all those from the Sudbury area who so gallantly gave their lives to keep China British. So, from now on, the cormorant is strictly out of bounds! Oh, and Jenkins, apparently your mother died this morning.
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Lol

My reference monitor might not be calibrated correctly

But

Meaning of life?
 
The only thing immune to sporting authorities these days is the haka. The haka is essentially a 'na-na-na-na-naaa, fuck you' ritual, but it's tolerated, even during an era when even the slightest sign of the mildest disrespect is pounced on and penalised, because, er, it's a tradition. Like sexism and racism and imperialism and acting like tits. If only the Cockneys had dreamed up a dance routine to chant 'Hitler's only got one ball/My old man's a dustman/Feck off foreigners, we're gonna beat your fecking arse' - and added an endearing throat-slitting gesture - they'd be allowed to perform the sacred routine before every sporting event these days. People are strange, especially when they wear blazers.
 
Football, Poppies & RemembranceAAnd so it ends. Ninety-three years of England’s ignominious and unpatriotic failure to wear poppies on their shirts comes to a deserved end, and a nation can rest easy, safe in the knowledge that now football has fallen into line, people will actually start wearing poppies for the first time ever. Or something like that.

Football is not ignorant of military matters. Help for Heroes were the official charity supported by the Football League in 2009, whilst FA Cup final pre-match shows are really adverts for the practiced drilling of the armed forces, whilst uniformed comrades take care of the silverware, bringing it to view before the match to mass acclaim, and bringing it to the balcony before it is presented to the winning team. All this, and three seats for the Armed Forces within the FA Council.
Yet despite this, and despite knowing for months that England would be playing Spain the day after Armistice Day, it seems to have only occurred to them last Saturday that it was a matter of supreme importance to a nation’s remembrance and sense of itself that the England teams have a poppy embroidered onto the shirt. That this was after a lot of people – journalists included – had seen all Premier League club do this in their last round of games before November 11th, is doubtless a crazy coincidence. FIFA, ever alive to opportunities to play the pantomime villain for their friends in the English press pack refused, citing their blanket ban on all commercial, political and religious messages on the shirts worn in matches which take place under their jurisdiction.

FIFA rightly have long-standing rules in place, mindful of the power of the game to be used to further dark agendas, and equally mindful of the nature of political matters to be judged very differently depending on where one stands. Would that they have been in place in 1938 to save England’s players from being advised to give a Nazi salute before playing Germany. But sadly – for many, many more important reasons than this – FIFA are perhaps the last people on earth to be able to survey the high ground of principle from their strong fortress of legitimacy.

What FIFA actually practice is the highest and most powerful example of politics of all – the ability to decide what is and is not political. Behind the canard that sport and politics shouldn’t be mixed lies the pure power to decide what is and isn’t political, and so what will, and will not be tolerated in mixing with sport. Racism was political – and not to be mixed with sport – when the old guard stonewalled developing world pressure to tackle apartheid. The new guard who understood that sensibility changed tack, and now FIFA’s stance is that anti-racism isn’t political and can be mixed with sport. It’s a welcome change, of course, but on no level can it be seen as apolitical.

Commercial matters are most definitely not political in FIFA-land; certainly not how FIFA ensures host countries for World Cups give them carte blanche to pretty much do as they commercially please, and rewrite their laws and tax codes. It also isn’t political to allow national teams to display the logo of the kit manufacturer, a commercial message if ever there was one. Adidas, after all, would expect nothing less from the people they groomed for power back in the day. A similarly conflicted bunch joined the debate in the form of a phalanx of politicians, all anxious to say that commemoration of the dead of wars is not political. Whilst the wars in which those people die are a matter for debate and decision by politicians, it will always be political, and it is specious to claim otherwise.

Never mind that the Chief Executive of the British Legion said “The Legion never insists that the poppy be worn or insists that others allow it to be worn.” But who cares what that pen-pushing pinko thinks, when there’s a jingoistic juggernaut on the move. Either stay still and be run over, or get on board and watch it magically become a bandwagon. When Prince William also joined Cameron and for a tantalizing few hours, we wondered whether, inspired by the Roses, Becks would rejoin the band and bring back the inglorious days of The Zurich Failures, ready for one last crack at breaking FIFA.

And then there’s the FA. Despite having had months to think about it, they also failed to think about other things they could do. They might have demonstrated support towards military charities by encouraging all the players to donate to them; perhaps their pool fee from the commercial revenues the FA earns from their presence, or – heaven forfend – the wages we know they will earn from their clubs whilst on international duty. The FA could itself donate proceeds of the match, were it not for the fact that they haven’t got the ability to be so generous with their funds as we might like of the governing body in the richest footballing country on earth.

In the same vein, Government itself could, you know, actually support the families of the dead and the wounded in wars they have sent them on, rather than needing the amelioration of the greatest sacrifice to require an annual begging bowl to be passed around. But this isn’t a time for practical actions which will actually make a difference, or judiciously picking one’s fights with the global governing body in order to bring about the reforms desperately needed. This is a time for gestures. A gesture to want to place the poppy on the shirt and a gesture to make it the acme of Blatterite perfidy.

It’s a convenient time for a gesture, it must be said. With little domestic football, it’s a slow news week and all media eyes will be turned to the forthcoming friendly as they seek non-stories to fill the burgeoning print and online football press. What to write about? There’s Rooney’s ban from 2012, the hardy perennial of the coach’s salary and future intentions and, most troublingly, the fact that a senior members of the squad and former national captain is currently subject of an investigation by the police into whether he racially abused a player. Poppygate has certainly enabled the FA to avoid the kind of glare they’d have found unwelcome as they tiptoe through the legal, moral and commercial minefield of Terrygate.

But it’s not just that. There’s a something bigger here, more political than mere serendipitous public affairs management. The shrill calls for compulsory observance might be a relatively new development, but they’re awfully reminiscent of the criticism the game got some 98 years ago for unpatriotically not setting an example for the chaps needed to enlist to bash the Bosch. The four clubs who did not get poppied-up for their pre-Armistice Day match last year were hauled over the coals for their failure. They were in line the next-year, but papers must be sold though a new target lined up in the form of the England Team. They assented to wear the poppy, so the gaze moves to FIFA. And if its not this issue, it’s the referee who had the temerity to apply the laws to the national team’s detriment.

But there’s even more here than even this – a sense that it’s not even just media cynicism and hyperole making it into the issue of the day. Witness the USA, where there has been a conscious effort use sport to promote the military and, crucially, its actions, at a time when the morality and wisdom of those actions are fiercely contested and very far from unanimously shared amongst fans (but pretty unanimously shared amongst those who own the clubs). As a result of their enforced co-option, sports grounds become places where the debates and disputes in wider society get played out, often with great tension. We’re not there yet. One of the strengths of the Poppy Appeal has been the way in which by focussing on the fallen, it moves the focus away from the contentious politics of the war in which they fought and onto the human scale. Family histories can link the sacrifice made by individuals to the defence of the very best values of democracy and the very worst way in which fascism forced them to be defended.

One of those values was freedom, which at its base must, surely, mean the freedom to choose. That includes the freedom of fans to choose whether to support or not foreign policy actions in their own way at a time of their choosing rather than find they’ve gone to watch a sporting event and become co-opted in military boosterism. It should include the freedom of players to not be compelled to remember fallen in wars that have no meaning to them, or carry very different meanings due to their nationality. Maybe some would like to wear a white poppy (unlikely), or no poppy at all (likelier).

But most of all, it should include the freedom to be able to choose to remember, so that when people wear a poppy on their lapel, it is because they truly, authentically wish to take a moment to remember the fact that their forebears gave their lives in ways that delivered millions from tyrannies and miseries. In short, the freedom to trust remembrance to be genuine, something threatened by the hue and cry to never mind the sentiment, just get the goddamned symbol on.
 
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