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Where's 'Arry ?

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themn said:
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Redknapp on England: “I have kept my counsel all the way through and that was nothing at all to do with anything."
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He has really, to be fair. He's been asked about it alot. The first time I've heard him say anything about him being open to it was on TV last week at one of the Euro games in the studio and even then he said he felt relieved in a way because he was enjoying the project with Spurs.

What he didn't do during the whole speculation before Roy got the job, was nip it in the bud and say he wasn't interested. It was more what he didn't say than what he did.
 
He'll end up in jail, managing Bernie Madoff's prison team. Ron Howard will make a feel-good movie about it, with Tom Hanks playing 'Arry. He'll then be released and will become Director of Football at Peterborough alongside Barry Fry, and the two of them will have their own show on BT TV called 'Arry & Barry.
 
Rosco said:
It's the most important thing by a fucking distance, that's why.

We were in a relegation battle when Dalglish took over, and in half a season he got us back to 7th. Plenty on here convinced themselves this was the sign of a miracle worker. The reality is a team has good and bad form over the course of a season and if a manager is not bad they'll end up where they should in the league (and we did end up where the squad deserved to be). Add in the proven effect that a new manager has on a team in the short term, the fact that the squad improved in January and the fixture list was significantly easier in the second half of the season and all the ingredients were there for people not to be fooled into thinking that Dalglish was a managerial genius. But all those things routinely get ignored.
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Yes, you fail to explain why a team has good and bad form over the course of a season, so I'll do it for you. From your perspective this needs to be simply random statistical variance, so form comes and goes for no reason, and averages itself out over the season. However, footballers are not quantum mechanical systems governed by statistics. They are classical systems governed by physical mechanisms. Form comes and goes for physical reasons. Not an intangible statistical reason. And a manager influences those reasons one way or the other by his physical actions and choices.

Same thing, from your perspective you need that managerial influence to just be blind chance, which can be described statistically and averaged out over a season. However, good managers are not blind morons who make decisions based on nothing. You are underestimating the processing power of the brain. Until you have a physical model for football as opposed to a statistical one, then the brain will always win out because it's working with a plethora of high quality sensory information and memories, and you're working with a paucity of stupid numbers that vaguely correlate to some vague property.
 
dantes said:
Yes, you fail to explain why a team has good and bad form over the course of a season, so I'll do it for you. From your perspective this needs to be simply random statistical variance, so form comes and goes for no reason, and averages itself out over the season. However, footballers are not quantum mechanical systems governed by statistics. They are classical systems governed by physical mechanisms. Form comes and goes for physical reasons. Not an intangible statistical reason. And a manager influences those reasons one way or the other by his physical actions and choices.

Same thing, from your perspective you need that managerial influence to just be blind chance, which can be described statistically and averaged out over a season. However, good managers are not blind morons who make decisions based on nothing. You are underestimating the processing power of the brain. Until you have a physical model for football as opposed to a statistical one, then the brain will always win out because it's working with a plethora of high quality sensory information and memories, and you're working with a paucity of stupid numbers that vaguely correlate to some vague property.
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I'll ignore the rubbish you post and just point out the fatal flaw
 
the reality is I partially explained why form varies in an earlier post.

Mnaagers are morons is the point I'm making.
 
In the old days, science would think A influences B, and it studied the nature of that influence and made an equation for it.

Then in the more recent old days, with quantum mechanics and statistics, there was ABCDEFGHIJK and L all influencing M, so you couldn't fuck around and had to use statistics to describe this messy complicated systems.

Now, the way the brain works and processes information is more based on networks. It's not a one to one influence. so A also influences B, which has a knock-on effect on M. And so on for all of the other letters. Suddenly its not random and messy, but a complicated network of organized interactions that must all be taken into account. A managers brain does this.

Your statistical approach is still back in the old old days of one-to-one correlations. It's poor quality information. If some intelligent people wasted their time, they could bring it up to speed on the same level as quantum mechanics and describe a fuller amount of information. But even then, it still gets owned by the brain of some half-wit like Harry Redknapp. That is how poor your model is.
 
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Rosco said:
the reality is I partially explained why form varies in an earlier post.

Mnaagers are morons is the point I'm making.
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Hahahahhah true. But statistical moneyball reasons were how Comolli and Dalglish decided that Henderson, Downing and Adam were good signings who were "undervalued" in english football. It fucked up as everyone expected it to. And now you are claiming that managers are morons and we should go to statistics? The reason they are morons is because they switched off their brains and decided to follow the numbers.
 
Herr Onceared said:
Apparantly he has been given a £3m payoff for the final year of his contract.

So after tax thats £3m
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Yeah.... Arry's dog is going be be delighted when he checks his bank account later....

*also shamelessly stolen*
 
dantes said:
Hahahahhah true. But statistical moneyball reasons were how Comolli and Dalglish decided that Henderson, Downing and Adam were good signings who were "undervalued" in english football. It fucked up as everyone expected it to. And now you are claiming that managers are morons and we should go to statistics? The reason they are morons is because they switched off their brains and decided to follow the numbers.
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There was nothing "moneyball" about any of the signings. Henry said they were scouting choices:

However, Henry said people have now become fixated on sabermetrics because of Moneyball, the book on baseball statistics by Michael Lewis, and said "football is too dynamic" to base recruitment largely on a statistical approach. Liverpool's signings, he explained, ultimately relied on scouting, not purely statistics.
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Anyway I said ages ago that Comolli was on the wrong track because of the emphasis he placed on keeping possession. All the leading football analysts say differently.
 
We finished fourth and were unlucky at the end, but I think the same outcome would have happened," Redknapp said on BBC Radio Five Live.
"Even if we had finished fourth, the chairman would have gone down the same road. But that is football.
"I had four great years at Spurs. All you can do is leave the club in a better state than you found it and I did that, for sure."
 
Rosco said:
There was nothing "moneyball" about any of the signings. Henry said they were scouting choices:



Anyway I said ages ago that Comolli was on the wrong track because of the emphasis he placed on keeping possession. All the leading football analysts say differently.
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Wow, Rodgers is done and dusted by all these leaDing analysts.
 
I guess Whelan could only hold out for so long:

"I have not been approached, and Roberto has not been approached," he told ESPN. "He is so honest that he would tell me the minute that he has.
"I think it's pie in the sky that Spurs want Roberto. It seems that way as they have made no approach. That's not to say that they won't, but I hope that Spurs go for David Moyes and leave us alone!"
 
Just in #
Harry Redknapp will reportedly be paid £3,000,000 in compensation by Tottenham, which after tax will equate to approximately £3,000,000.
 
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