Where's 'Arry ?
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Let's hope they get another no clue Juande Ramos-a-like and slip back into mid table mediocrity.
I'm sure treating H so shabbily will be just the excuse the likes of Modric, Bale and VDV need to secure their exits (fnarr).
I'm sure treating H so shabbily will be just the excuse the likes of Modric, Bale and VDV need to secure their exits (fnarr).
I was reading the comments on the BBC and many Spurs fans seem to be glad to see the back of him.
Reasons tend to be:
- Self serving twat who is too into self-promotion in the media
- Wasted a load of money on players that did nothing
- Tactically inept
- Failed to build on the foundations laid by others in any truly meaningful way
It's often put forward that the foundation for their current success was put in place during Jol's time who managed to 5th place finishes whilst he was there. That Redknapp capitalized on that and took them forward whilst players previously bought began to repay their transfer fees is fairly undeniable but will any future manager get to benefit from his work in the way he has benefited from others? Doubtful.
Reasons tend to be:
- Self serving twat who is too into self-promotion in the media
- Wasted a load of money on players that did nothing
- Tactically inept
- Failed to build on the foundations laid by others in any truly meaningful way
It's often put forward that the foundation for their current success was put in place during Jol's time who managed to 5th place finishes whilst he was there. That Redknapp capitalized on that and took them forward whilst players previously bought began to repay their transfer fees is fairly undeniable but will any future manager get to benefit from his work in the way he has benefited from others? Doubtful.
It could go either way to be fair. They have the basis of an excellent squad. If they bring in the right manager with both the mentality for a big club and the ability to keep star names and attract more, then they have the foundations in place to do well. A big ask I know, but they're in the capital, have a good capacity, etc... If they get Moyes or Rafa, it's a gamble or a much of a muchness in the latter's case, he'll be competing with Newcastle and City, something he didn't have to contend with last time.
It was Levy who did the transfers too, wasn't it? For example, didn't Redknapp revealed that he was informed about Van der Vaart's availability by Levy two hours before the window closed?
You could argue he's taken them as far as he is capable of doing though. But yeah, I guess they should be showing more respect. If that's the underlying feeling of the fans though, it's only what many of us suspected anyway.
So how long before the story comes out that this has all to do with him not getting to speak to England? How long before he blames Levy and then Hodgson and the team are getting all the wrong press during the tournament? I bet the press pens are twitching as we speak.
That doesn't mean he bought him though, does it? Informing him of VDV's availability is just common place stuff, whether it be because he was already on their radar or simply because, as everyone knows, he's a top player. I'm sure Redknapp wouldn't have turned his nose up at him on those terms.
I'm fairly sure levy acts as a DoF there judging by comments he's made.
.....continued....'as a club we always lack consistency, we were just starting to achieve something and now it feels like we are going to have to start over. Fucking livid'
Hahaha
I'm shamelessly pinching that one x
Yeah, but seeing the fees that Levy managed to get for the likes of Carrick and Berbatov, I'd think the wheeler and dealer for Tottenham over the past couple of seasons have been more Levy than Redknapp. In fact, if we look at some of the other signings, its evident their success has been the price at which they snapped up some of the players, nothing much more. The successful ones were bascially experienced/proven/ex-players. Quite true that he hasn't really added on to the foundation, from the squad building point of view.
Jermain Defoe - ex player, bit part role
Wilson Palacios - sold to Stoke
Carlo Cudicini - backup
Pascal Chimbonda - sold to Blackburn
Robbie Keane - loaned to Celtic, West Ham, left for LA Galaxy
Kyle Naughton - loaned to Norwich
Kyle Walker - sucess?
Peter Crouch - ex player, sold to Stoke
Sébastien Bassong - loaned to Wolves
Niko Kranjčar - ex player, sold to Dinamo Kiev
Younes Kaboul - ex player
Sandro - success?
William Gallas - success?
Rafael van der Vaart - success?
Bongani Khumalo - loaned to Preston, Reading
Steven Pienaar - loaned to Everton
Brad Friedel - success?
Scott Parker - success
Louis Saha - released
Ryan Nelsen - back up
Of cos, credit to him for bringing more/the most out of the players who were at the club.
It seems a great deal of their fans have a lot of respect for levy & trust his judgement. I kinda envy that as we haven't had it for way too long.
Harry seems to arrive at a club, spend a fucking mint short term, bosh out a load of results and bail when the players have hit their peak and are on the wane. Pompey. WHU. Now Spurs. One style of play without a plan B, unable to change a game from the bench or with system changes, and fishy as fuck with regards to finances. I'm glad we are not manager-less and can't be wooed by his mockney charm.
I don't think Spurs will suddenly sink back into mid-table, certainly not if they appoint Moyes. He seems a tough enough character to make it at a bigger club and he does have an eye for a player.
As for the treatment of Redknapp, well I think it's harsh.
As for the treatment of Redknapp, well I think it's harsh.
I reckon Levy's entitled to feel miffed that his manager wouldn't shut the fuck up about the England job, especially as the team he was being paid to manage was giving up a ten point gap to their closest rivals.
I don't dislike Redknapp at all, but he should have kept his gob shut.
I don't dislike Redknapp at all, but he should have kept his gob shut.
That's true enough, but I'm surprised that Levy thinks it's worth the risk of replacing him.
There's meant to be other stuff, but, hey !
It's the most important thing by a fucking distance, that's why.
We were in a relegation battle when Dalglish took over, and in half a season he got us back to 7th. Plenty on here convinced themselves this was the sign of a miracle worker. The reality is a team has good and bad form over the course of a season and if a manager is not bad they'll end up where they should in the league (and we did end up where the squad deserved to be). Add in the proven effect that a new manager has on a team in the short term, the fact that the squad improved in January and the fixture list was significantly easier in the second half of the season and all the ingredients were there for people not to be fooled into thinking that Dalglish was a managerial genius. But all those things routinely get ignored.
Same goes for Harry, he didn't take over a relegation battling club and turn them into European contenders. Spurs were 5th in 07, 11th in 08. They started the next season badly having only taken 2 points from 8 games with stories regularly detailing how much the players hated working with Ramos. Essentially just like us Spurs relegation form was a false indication of how good they were and instead was a reflection of a poor run of form. They finished 8th that season.
Since then the groundwork that was done under Arnesen and Commoli came to fruition (Lennon, Bale, Modric etc ). And Harry happened to be the manager in charge to benefit.
Ryan I know you love the importance of tactics etc, Harry's tactical approach according to his players was to send them out on the pitch having only told them who to mark at corners.
So tell me what exactly am I supposed to give Harry credit for ?
He doesn't bother with tactics, his transfers dealings have been poor. His timing however has been excellent. So all credit to Harry for that.
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