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1. slow tempo
2.not committing more bodies where it counts up front.
3.late substitution at pre set time
4.lack of depth and kwality in squad
5.players who are not motivated to die for the cause
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

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It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
 
The real problem is in the middle. No creativity to break defences and too lightweight that leaves our defence exposed.
Selling Alonso for £30M wasnt bad, replacing him with an injury prone italian that wouldnt be fit until november was a monumental mistake.
Lucas is an awful footballer. Thinking he would step up was very delusional.
At the end of the day the one to blame is the one who made these decisions.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It's always EVERYBODY except the manager, isn't it?
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
[/quote]

the other side of the coin is if he's ace then it's a good decision long term. there was always a danger we'd be out of it by the time he was back (I was worried about it) but if he comes back and is class then we can at least look to the future.
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
[/quote]

the other side of the coin is if he's ace then it's a good decision long term. there was always a danger we'd be out of it by the time he was back (I was worried about it) but if he comes back and is class then we can at least look to the future.

[/quote]

.....and we'll be able to thank the owners for making the funds available to get him.
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It's always EVERYBODY except the manager, isn't it?
[/quote]

So you don't think that our owners are in any way to blame for this season then?
 
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[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36496.msg964619#msg964619 date=1255801674]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36496.msg964598#msg964598 date=1255800475]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
[/quote]

the other side of the coin is if he's ace then it's a good decision long term. there was always a danger we'd be out of it by the time he was back (I was worried about it) but if he comes back and is class then we can at least look to the future.

[/quote]

.....and we'll be able to thank the owners for making the funds available to get him.
[/quote]

they only made what was generated available to us, if that trend continues then it's going to be difficult (i.e what is Babel going to raise when he fucks off?). Chelsea, City etc. dont need to sell players they stock up on them because they have unlimited budgets

for example, we sold Keane but didnt replace him. might have been handy to have another international forward but not allowed to seemingly, the other teams buy them at will
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It's always EVERYBODY except the manager, isn't it?
[/quote]

So you don't think that our owners are in any way to blame for this season then?
[/quote]

So you don't think our manager is in any way to blame for this season then?
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36496.msg964598#msg964598 date=1255800475]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
[/quote]

Having £15m (or so) available to spend last summer would have solved that problem.

It stands to reason that when you have to sell before you can buy, then your team is going to get weaker.
 
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36496.msg964621#msg964621 date=1255801922]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36496.msg964619#msg964619 date=1255801674]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36496.msg964598#msg964598 date=1255800475]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
[/quote]

the other side of the coin is if he's ace then it's a good decision long term. there was always a danger we'd be out of it by the time he was back (I was worried about it) but if he comes back and is class then we can at least look to the future.

[/quote]

.....and we'll be able to thank the owners for making the funds available to get him.
[/quote]

they only made what was generated available to us, if that trend continues then it's going to be difficult. Chelsea, City etc. dont need to sell players they stock up on them because they have unlimited budgets

for example, we sold Keane but didnt replace him. might have been handy to have another international forward but not allowed to seemingly, the other teams buy them at will

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Well it might have been a better idea to spend the money we did spend on a defender that can't defend on said international forward.
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
[/quote]

Having £15m (or so) available to spend last summer would have solved that problem.

It stands to reason that when you have to sell before you can buy, then your team is going to get weaker.

[/quote]

Unless your name is Arsene.
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It's always EVERYBODY except the manager, isn't it?
[/quote]

So you don't think that our owners are in any way to blame for this season then?
[/quote]

So you don't think our manager is in any way to blame for this season then?
[/quote]

Of course he is, but as i said the major issue we have is the two cunts who own us.
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
[/quote]

Having £15m (or so) available to spend last summer would have solved that problem.

It stands to reason that when you have to sell before you can buy, then your team is going to get weaker.

[/quote]

Unless your name is Arsene.
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Since the gooners have been doing this they've won fuck all.
 
[quote author=rage link=topic=36496.msg964508#msg964508 date=1255797022]
if rafa had any shame he'd quit.

he's just here to squeeze as much money out of us as possible.

when he's finally kicked out he'll end up at a second tier spanish team - about his level.
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Can you get anymore pantomine Rage?

I won't bother reminding you that Rafa won La Liga with a cash-strapped Valencia.
 
there is no doubt a lack of finance will hold us back, we have spent NET virtually nothing in 2 years on players. The available money has been consumed by contracts and interest payments. it really isnt a surprise when everyone around you is spending money on players year in and year out and what we have amounts to a transfer freeze
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
[/quote]

Having £15m (or so) available to spend last summer would have solved that problem.

It stands to reason that when you have to sell before you can buy, then your team is going to get weaker.

[/quote]

Unless your name is Arsene.
[/quote]

Arsene spent £10m on a defender, we can't do that can we? he also bought Arshavin for £14m while we sold Keane and bought no one. his situation is exagerated, like Fergie he spends the money when he needs to. he isn't constrained in the same way as the Liverpool manager.
 
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36496.msg964598#msg964598 date=1255800475]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
[/quote]

Having £15m (or so) available to spend last summer would have solved that problem.

It stands to reason that when you have to sell before you can buy, then your team is going to get weaker.

[/quote]

Unless your name is Arsene.
[/quote]

Arsene spent £10m on a defender, we can't do that can we? he also bought Arshavin for £14m while we sold Keane and bought no one. his situation is exagerated, like Fergie he spends the money when he needs to. he isn't constrained in the same way as the Liverpool manager.
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Arsene's made a net profit in the time he's been there Rebel. Whether it's self-constrained or not he consistently turns budget priced players into quality.
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
[/quote]

Having £15m (or so) available to spend last summer would have solved that problem.

It stands to reason that when you have to sell before you can buy, then your team is going to get weaker.

[/quote]

Unless your name is Arsene.
[/quote]

Arsene spent £10m on a defender, we can't do that can we? he also bought Arshavin for £14m while we sold Keane and bought no one. his situation is exagerated, like Fergie he spends the money when he needs to. he isn't constrained in the same way as the Liverpool manager.
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Didn't we just spend 17m on a right back and 20m on a midfielder ?
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It's always EVERYBODY except the manager, isn't it?
[/quote]

So you don't think that our owners are in any way to blame for this season then?
[/quote]

So you don't think our manager is in any way to blame for this season then?
[/quote]

Of course he is, but as i said the major issue we have is the two cunts who own us.

[/quote]

I agree that they are cunts but if you step back and look at it realistically, we sold Alonso and got Aqualani, sold Arbeloa and got Johnson. So really, in theory, we've improved a squad that came runner-up last season. Now it's a long way to go until the end of this season but can you explain how an improved squad is playing rubbish? The owners have provided the funds to improve the squad, even if it is making available what came in.
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
[/quote]

Having £15m (or so) available to spend last summer would have solved that problem.

It stands to reason that when you have to sell before you can buy, then your team is going to get weaker.

[/quote]

Unless your name is Arsene.
[/quote]

Arsene spent £10m on a defender, we can't do that can we? he also bought Arshavin for £14m while we sold Keane and bought no one. his situation is exagerated, like Fergie he spends the money when he needs to. he isn't constrained in the same way as the Liverpool manager.
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Didn't we just spend 17m on a right back and 20m on a midfielder ?
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yes we did but we needed to do that AND more, we didnt do the and more. If Fergie or Wenger needed another striker, winger or defender they would get one
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
[/quote]

Having £15m (or so) available to spend last summer would have solved that problem.

It stands to reason that when you have to sell before you can buy, then your team is going to get weaker.

[/quote]

Unless your name is Arsene.
[/quote]

Arsene spent £10m on a defender, we can't do that can we? he also bought Arshavin for £14m while we sold Keane and bought no one. his situation is exagerated, like Fergie he spends the money when he needs to. he isn't constrained in the same way as the Liverpool manager.
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You do know that Glen Johnson was bought by Liverpool Football Club for 18 million quid Rebel? Don't you?
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36496.msg964581#msg964581 date=1255799603]
Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It wasn't the owners who bought an injured Aqualani and left us with a totally uncreative central midfeld pairing for 2 months Raf.
[/quote]

Having £15m (or so) available to spend last summer would have solved that problem.

It stands to reason that when you have to sell before you can buy, then your team is going to get weaker.

[/quote]

Unless your name is Arsene.
[/quote]

Arsene spent £10m on a defender, we can't do that can we? he also bought Arshavin for £14m while we sold Keane and bought no one. his situation is exagerated, like Fergie he spends the money when he needs to. he isn't constrained in the same way as the Liverpool manager.
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You do know that Glen Johnson was bought by Liverpool Football Club for 18 million quid Rebel? Don't you?
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yeah and the greek was how much?

As I said if they need someone they get them and they spend the money on them, we needed Johnson (a right back and English player) we also needed a new defender and another striker but we can't because we're constrained.

we're operating 1 in and 1 out while our rivals dont have this constraint
 
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we're operating 1 in and 1 out while our rivals dont have this constraint

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So Utd have improved have they having lost Ronaldo and Tevez?
 
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[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36496.msg964647#msg964647 date=1255803480]

we're operating 1 in and 1 out while our rivals dont have this constraint

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So Utd have improved have they having lost Ronaldo and Tevez?
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No not this summer but I recall one summer they won the league and spent £50m so maybe they feel they dont need to buy anyone or can cope until January when they will spend I'm sure if he felt the need to buy a player and the right player came along he would be able to, there wouldnt be a constraint from the board like there is at Liverpool
 
the idea that kuyt can be our back up striker is beyond a joke. in my mind, ngog is second choice to torres.
 
We finished 2nd last year thank to Rafa.
Now we lost 4 out of 9 and its because of the Yanks.
Its very simple really.
 
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=36496.msg964651#msg964651 date=1255803763]
We finished 2nd last year thank to Rafa.
Now we lost 4 out of 9 and its because of the Yanks.
Its very simple really.
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there is no doubt Benitez overachieves with what he has, the 5th wage budget in the league and virtually no net spending

it's not easy what he's being asked to do and there's a lot of expectation and pressure
 
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Having two cunts as our owners is the major one.

We had a huge opportunity this summer to push on and really take a march on our rivals, but G&H decide that now is the right time to turn LFC into a "sell before we can buy club"!!!

[/quote]

It's always EVERYBODY except the manager, isn't it?
[/quote]

So you don't think that our owners are in any way to blame for this season then?
[/quote]

So you don't think our manager is in any way to blame for this season then?
[/quote]

Of course he is, but as i said the major issue we have is the two cunts who own us.

[/quote]

I agree that they are cunts but if you step back and look at it realistically, we sold Alonso and got Aqualani, sold Arbeloa and got Johnson. So really, in theory, we've improved a squad that came runner-up last season. Now it's a long way to go until the end of this season but can you explain how an improved squad is playing rubbish? The owners have provided the funds to improve the squad, even if it is making available what came in.
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Aquilani for Alonso is not an improvement in anyones book is it (yet anyway)?

And have the yanks really made available whats come in? We've sold Keane, Alonso, Arby, Leto and a few more, yet we've spent around £38mil this summer?

Like i said Rafa has to take his fair share of the blame, but i'm convinced that if he'd of been able to bring in 1 or 2 more players (i'm not talking super stars) we'd be in a much better position right now.
 
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