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West Ham v Liverpool match thread

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To say that Lucas is the reason we're losing is some next level type bullshit.
Unless you believe Lucas is the reason we're not scoring. In that case, yeah it makes sense.

Lucas is awful and not good enough
 
An even game really.

Yet again we're on the wrong end of luck.

(That's not to say we haven't been poor, but West Ham haven't deserved the lead either)
 
No point crossing the ball, Benteke hasn't won a single header and West Ham are winning every ball in. Get Lallana on and get that dope up front off and keep the ball on the deck
 
Lucas is awful and not good enough
Lucas might not be good enough but he hasn't been the problem today has he? It's not like West Ham are dominating the midfield. In the last third we'e been awful and have hardly created anything let alone look like scoring.
 
This may be the worst Ive seen from Coutinho, hes really doesnt give a fuck some times. Lallana needs to come on for the 2nd half
 
Yeah, I think I'd go with Firmino as false 9, and bring on Lallana for Benteke.

There's no way we score with such little movement up front.
 
It's a ridiculously error strewn game. I suppose that's to be expected given the fixtures. Painful to watch though.
 
Get what you're saying re: Sturridge.

But the Henderson, Origi, Ings injuries have been a real problem this season.

Can, Lallana, Firmino and Coutinho have played a LOT of football this season without any rest. And half the time, they've been doing it around Benteke who they're not suited to playing with.

It's a bit much to expect them to cope with teams as physical as West Ham and Palace in those circumstances.

I did forget Ings even existed. It's a real shame what happened to him because he would have had a chance to really step in to the team and shine this season.

I wouldn't have been happy over the summer but I wish the owners would have held on to their money for Benteke and Firmino. I suppose they really didn't think they'd be firing Rodgers so early in the season, but that's a ton of money that's looks wasted.

I think Firmino might have a future here and maybe he is just worn down and trying to get used to living in a new country. I think Benteke is all but done under Klopp. He will still get a lot of games, probably through to the summer. After that I think he will find the door or find the bench.

Maybe we can get £20m for him back from Villa if they just skate relegation.
 
Yeah, I think I'd go with Firmino as false 9, and bring on Lallana for Benteke.

There's no way we score with such little movement up front.
Exactly what I was thinking. Benteke's lack of control and aggression in a very crowded area is doing my head in. I think Collins has beat him to the ball virtually every time.
 
You really are fucking daft aren't you - you sit and big up Lucas week in week out and now have a pop at Moreno for no good reason -
He fucking rolled around like a pansy instead of getting up and defending the goal, the man that tracked back 50 meters scored. Pity he couldn't do the same. Funny he was fine and laughing about the goal 2 mins later. We had 5 in the box and he put in a shite cross with tonnes of room so yes wanker is fair.

He did make one superb block.
 
Anyone who thinks Lucas isn't a problem is daft. He is absolutely invisible against pacy, physical midfields, and today has been no different.

Can has been pretty much playing in midfield alone.

He was also majorly responsible for the goal - should have stopped that cross coming in.
 
Terrible ref yet again. How was that judged a fair tackle on Moreno?

We are such an average side though, where is the control, the technique?
 
I think you will find he has
Are you going to expand on that with any reasons or just stick to the smug reply. How has he been the problem today? He wasn't at fault for the goal and he hasn't missed any clear cut chances as we haven't created any. I'm not saying he's having a great game but who is?
 
21 touches in the first half for Benteke

The least of any player onthe Pitch

32 million for a Slightly better Balotelli..

I just don't get the point of that signing, I don't think I ever did

Firminho.. Weve been blagged haven't we??
 
Does anyone else blame Mignolet at least in part for their goal ? It was a hanging cross and there were only two people in front of him. The ball was headed in from 6-7m out but Mignolet was rooted 1m out and didn't even look like he was thkning about coming. Had that been Cech, De Gea and many others they'd have claimed or punched it clear. Are I being hyper-critical ?
 
You lot look strong this year. Realise it was a nothing game but absolutely destroyed us on Thursday.
Yep. I think you'll beat Finland today though.
We've got a decent bunch this year with A. Nylander, Kempe and Holmstrom, Forsling and Pettersson etc being our most prominent players.
Will Nylander is still missing though and I hope he's back for the semi.
 
He fucking rolled around like a pansy instead of getting up and defending the goal, the man that tracked back 50 meters scored. Pity he couldn't do the same. Funny he was fine and laughing about the goal 2 mins later. We had 5 in the box and he put in a shite cross with tonnes of room so yes wanker is fair.

He did make one superb block.

Oh dear I think I'd shut the fuck up now if I were you Pat you are making it sound like you are dafter than you actually are.
 
Does anyone else blame Mignolet at least in part for their goal ? It was a hanging cross and there were only two people in front of him. The ball was headed in from 6-7m out but Mignolet was rooted 1m out and didn't even look like he was thkning about coming. Had that been Cech, De Gea and many others they'd have claimed or punched it clear. Are I being hyper-critical ?

Yeah, I think so. Defender has to mark tighter there. I'd have been shitting myself if Ming came off his line there.
 
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