Saved us a whole load of agony with the timing of the 3rd. Could have gone either way at that point.
West Ham v Liverpool Match Thread
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Saved us a whole load of agony with the timing of the 3rd. Could have gone either way at that point.
Yeah, best performance from him yet. Still not amazing, but looked more like a Liverpool player today.
69 ya cheeky git..
It's not all bad news for WHU fans.
Moyes rumours growing
Moyes rumours growing
Watch the defenders .. those three were going away from them even with the ball. Awesome.
Ratings
Ming - 4
Moreno - 7
Klavan - 6
Matip - 6
Gomez - 4.5 (his head went for a while there)
Can - 6.5
Wijnaldum - 7 (got through a ton of work in MF and was still running hard to get into goalscoring positions near the end)
Ox - 7.5 - some really nice attacking play from midfield and always there in support, both in defence and attack. We looked far better balanced in central midfield than when having Hendo/Can/Gini. Maybe Coutinho+Ox+Gini or Can would be a better mix.
Mane - 7.5
Firmino - 8
Salah - 9
Milner - 6
Solanke - 6
Ming - 4
Moreno - 7
Klavan - 6
Matip - 6
Gomez - 4.5 (his head went for a while there)
Can - 6.5
Wijnaldum - 7 (got through a ton of work in MF and was still running hard to get into goalscoring positions near the end)
Ox - 7.5 - some really nice attacking play from midfield and always there in support, both in defence and attack. We looked far better balanced in central midfield than when having Hendo/Can/Gini. Maybe Coutinho+Ox+Gini or Can would be a better mix.
Mane - 7.5
Firmino - 8
Salah - 9
Milner - 6
Solanke - 6
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Brilliant win and much needed.
Sensational finish from Salah
Mane looks so Fucking fast it makes such a difference when he's on the pitch
If we had gotten to this stage of the season with everyone fit I think we'd be top two.
I really like the orange strip
Sensational finish from Salah
Mane looks so Fucking fast it makes such a difference when he's on the pitch
If we had gotten to this stage of the season with everyone fit I think we'd be top two.
I really like the orange strip
Ayew's shot that hit the post does not count as on target?
Aaaaaaa hahahahaha!
Corrected
Karius
There was an article in the "Echo" recently which said that this season Henderson has:
- Completed more passes than any other Liverpool player;
- Made more accurate passes in the final third than any other Liverpool player;
- Recovered the ball more times than any other Liverpool player; and is
- 2nd to only one other Liverpool player in the list of tackles and interceptions made.
All of those stats are what you expect from a deep lying midfielder. Also they don't mean shit unless compared with other players in the same position in the prem.
Completed most passes?
Made most accurate passes in final third?
We'll that's cap Sideways for ya.
Balls. The "final third" bit is exactly not "what you expect from a deep lying midfielder" and, for anyone who actually watches what he does out there instead of preselecting what they want to see, his long passing is not at all bad, in fact the most improved part of his skillset. We should improve any part of the team we can, but there are far higher priorities elsewhere.
Even the stat I posted was pointless. It didn't take into account that he played against good sides and was unavailable against worse ones. Those stats you posted are pointless because Lucas used to complete more passes than Messi. But I can't see how anyone who watches him on a regular basis can't be flabbergasted that he's captain of Liverpool Football Club. As a football player he's average at best and as a man he's uninspiring. I find the whole thing depressing. If we had a decent midfield he wouldn't make the bench.
His long passes are mostly useless imo. Alonso did long passes with a purpose, Henderson is more in the Hollywood ball category. Switches the ball to other side but does it ever lead to anything?
You're absolutely right about passes in the final third. However he's got like one assist to show for it this season.
From watching Hendo play it's quite obvious that he plays it safe a whole lot.
So those stats don't really surprise me at all.
Can't disagree with that.
But that applies to almost every part of the team, except arguably for our wide attackers. Singling him out as Modo keeps doing is nuts.
He seems to have lost all his attacking prowess, and any will to try to pick a forward pass. The only offensive weapon in his arsenal is the occasional high lifted cross he love to swing from right to left. Even that is usually aiming at no one in particular.
The games in the past 2 seasons with which he has played well are of him bursting his guts to retrieve balls and his tireless leg work in pressing. Never anything offensive.
He is not a Kante or a Matic. If he is not going to add anything offensive then he is simply not good enough as a defensive mid for us. When Keita comes he will be the one i'll drop from the midfield. Even now i'll have Coutinho, Lallana, Gini and Can over him, with AOC and Milner knocking on the door.
The games in the past 2 seasons with which he has played well are of him bursting his guts to retrieve balls and his tireless leg work in pressing. Never anything offensive.
He is not a Kante or a Matic. If he is not going to add anything offensive then he is simply not good enough as a defensive mid for us. When Keita comes he will be the one i'll drop from the midfield. Even now i'll have Coutinho, Lallana, Gini and Can over him, with AOC and Milner knocking on the door.
Only if his target was indeed the post.
When Keita comes he's going to need protection in midfield as well. So a DM is a must.
I guess it wasn't, but Mignolet should surely be given aome credit for forcing Ayew to miss his target.
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