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Yeah, luckily most people on this Forum take criticism and disagreement quite well, and it's definitely only Mark that everyone thinks is a prickly, thin-skinned, tedious old twat that fucking moans about everything and wants Moderators removed and people banned when they have the temerity to have a different opinion.
Says the most sanctimonious poster on here. You're a hypocrite Macca. Defend the life out of every decision of the club and personnel you have a affinity with, despite the fact you would have taken (and did take) a completely different stance against other staff you find less favourable.
I notice you avoided all of the backhander stories surrounding Dalglish and Flanagan, like the fucking plague.
Selective, biased, whinging fucking hypocrite.
So it was a story from 90min.com about us wanting a swap between Sturridge and Icardi. What a load of crock.
I dunno, Brendan seems to be getting involved. I say we wait it out a wee bit and see if there's any interesting developments.
I appear to have been a decent undercard in this fight
Did you manage to get any training in before? Eat a special diet?
Thank you for articulating what my clumsy locution could not!
Fuck off Macca. We got it wrong with selling Coutinho now, with no plan to replace him. Simple as.
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I don't have a problem not replacing Coutinho, if the right player can't come now.
I suspect some will say, that we shouldn't have sold Coutinho until we had that replacement. Klopp wanted rid, so I think we have to back his judgement on that, he wants players 100% committed and that's that.
I think we're stronger than this time last season, so that's good.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the club bought someone, despite what we are saying.
I saw Melissa Reddy the other day saying that the club are very much giving the message that we don't need to buy, don't need to replace Coutinho for a few reasons. So all clubs don't raise the prices of players we might want. Equally it doesn't send out the right message to the existing players, let alone clubs who we might want to buy from.
I really like us in the transfer market now days. We target the right players, we're buying the right players and we seem very much in control of what we are doing and have a clear plan - which I believe is looking very effective given the players we have bought and suit the way we play.
I'm so relaxed on transfers.
I suspect some will say, that we shouldn't have sold Coutinho until we had that replacement. Klopp wanted rid, so I think we have to back his judgement on that, he wants players 100% committed and that's that.
I think we're stronger than this time last season, so that's good.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the club bought someone, despite what we are saying.
I saw Melissa Reddy the other day saying that the club are very much giving the message that we don't need to buy, don't need to replace Coutinho for a few reasons. So all clubs don't raise the prices of players we might want. Equally it doesn't send out the right message to the existing players, let alone clubs who we might want to buy from.
I really like us in the transfer market now days. We target the right players, we're buying the right players and we seem very much in control of what we are doing and have a clear plan - which I believe is looking very effective given the players we have bought and suit the way we play.
I'm so relaxed on transfers.
We don't know if we got it wrong yet. The reason being that in my view our front three are good enough to score against anyone, but when we played those three with Coutinho in the middle - it made our defensive game very difficult - I mean he was never the hardest of fella's was he ? - if we continue winning games, scoring goals, with OX being the main midfield dynamo, AND we have more defensive stability then we can say it was an OK decision. The only reason I want a Coutinho replacement is:-
1) to have a good creative player in the team (but a bit stronger physically), with goal scoring ability.
2) Klopp has said he has the full funds from the sale to spend - I want FSG, and Klopp to make good on that promise.
I actually always thought that having fab '4' always exposed our defense too much, so a lot of the time Coutinho's goals were not the winners for our team.
My mate's wife works as a personal shopper in London, and has a client turned friend who is 'friends' with Sanchez. She's Irish, and very fit. The same mate's son is an Arsenal fan, and Sanchez signed one of his match shirts for him last week at the behest of the lady 'friend'. But of course, the kid hates Sanchez now, and there's probably not a great market for it now.
Here's a theory I'd like to (though don't actually) believe. we're waiting for Arsenal to agree a sensible sum for a player- say 60m for Lemar or 42 for Auba. Then we burst in, Klopp bats his eyes at the player, and they decide to come to Liverpool. And thanks to Arsenal we avoid the Coutinho premium. Cheers Arsene!
Dirty paddy bastard
I think the club are trying to not look desperate and yes I think it's a plan and it is one that makes sense.
If we go around looking like we are desperately trying to find a replacement, then yes clubs could exploit that.
Also it is to lower the expectations. Last summer we saw the opposite at the end of the window how we would spend... X amount of money, get VVD etc and it back fired.
We're at a time where players are dreaming about playing for us and Klopp. Ox snubbed Chelsea. Keita chose us over Barca. Van Dijk chose us over City and others. Agents will be contacting the club all the time trying to get their players here. That's not to say we're the most attractive place to play at the moment compared to others teams. But players do seem to want to play here and I'm sure loads of players are fishing for a move.
Not looking desperate can help us. Last summer Southampton knew we were desperate for Van Dijk. In January they did too, so they milked us. Melissa Reddy is reliable and has good contacts at LFC. Yes it could be a plan and it makes sense.
I'm sure we have a list of players we want. Whether that is to replace Coutinho himself or improve other positions like the GK, for example. But not looking desperate and showing confidence in the current players we have makes sense. To boost the players we have, not build the fans up for a possible disappointment and not let other clubs take advantage of us. The message from Klopp is clear - if there is a good opportunity we'll go for it, if not we're happy.
Nothing wrong with putting the ball in Lemar's court to force a move to maybe force down that £90m price for example.
In the past we have panicked, with Carroll after Torres. We put all our eggs in one basket with Van Dijk. Now we seem to have a better plan and I like it.
We're in control and we want value, despite having a wedge from Coutinho. If clubs don't want to give us that, we're happy with what we've got or we'll wait for another player who is a better price who can suit our needs.
If we win tomorrow we go 5 points clear of Spurs. There is no rush to buy a replacement, we're in a strong position on and off the pitch.
I still think there'll be a surprise signing for us this window. I mean look at the summer, the Keita deal, that was totally out of the blue and unexpected. I wouldn't be surprised if we do something similar even if it means we don't get player x till June.
The world cup year scenario gets bandied around as a pro or a con in this context but personally I'm sceptical it's anything but a negative. The best players, if they're playing, surely (or at least historically) don't want to disturb their momentum a few months before a world cup. One of two, who aren't playing often enough, feel it's worth the risk to move. The odd one, such as Coutinho, just get so wound up in their private dream that nothing else matters. But generally they're not to be budged until the summer. I don't think most agents care that much one way or another, because they'd win one way or another. But I doubt there's really any great difference between people about this - if there's a great player available and we can afford him, we'll want him. But as bad as it is for long-running threads about this, we lack so much reliable information about what's really going on, it's mainly arguments about respective speculation rather than what Gordon and others are doing or not doing. It's hard because of that to take it too seriously.
He has 7 Alexis on his shirts
They might sign someone called Alexis then. Keep the faith.
We are generally utter shit after a world cup year - bar 2006/2007 season I think we have failed to do well in anything. United on the other hand have been great after each world cup year (except the last world cup where they came 4th). If the targets we want do very well in the WC then the price will be even higher. I am a firm believer if we sign now it will be cheaper and prepare those new players for the next season in a good way.
I'm sure you're right, mate, but surely that's a different issue? Who of the best out there wants to move or will be allowed to move (to us) NOW, even if our well-publicised windfall is deemed irrelevant? There are countless ideal situation scenarios that no one would reject. But who is out there who isn't a mediocre player, or even a decent but not quite up to it player, who won't let us down, and who we won't be asking 'why did we sign this crap' come June? And what do we really know in terms of the deals that have already been done but won't yet happen? As I said, this seems rooted too much in semi-ignorance and speculation. No one's against signing great players now.
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