Then why are our results better without him ?
We don't miss him
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Then why are our results better without him ?
Look at the stats with the Evra ban as well. It adds to Ross's point (I think).
If he does well against them at Old Trafford on his return with a weakened side then it goes against Ross's point.
We shouldn't bring anybody in then and ban transfers. Let's try and keep this team together for the next 20 years. We'll win every game 1-0 forever.
That's clearly not what I'm saying.
Well I'm saying it. Look at this team, won every game together and not conceded a goal. Stats!!!
Poorer opposition?
Our results would be better, games killed earlier
I do... I miss him...
That is a fair point. However, maybe we have set up in the way we have so far this season because of the players we have available. It's worked well so far, albeit with not many goals scored.
If and when we have Suarez back, we might set up slightly differently. He is a superior player to many others, so there should be a way of accommodating him to improve performances. Or it may totally upset the balance and we will be worse off.
Given how good Suarez can be, it seems a risk worth taking.
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Considering how weak our bench looks I think it's fair to believe we will miss our world class player at some point this Season.
Ross is right in that you can't just plug Suarez in for Aspas and be certain we'll be better for it... that's what should happen, but there's no guarantee. Suarez will have to be incorporated into the side and adapt his game in a way in which it doesn't make the team worse off, because we have been a better team without him.
If you replace Suarez for aspas where does Moses come in? Seems that we'd need to lose Henderson to allow that Combo which I'd not be happy with.
....................... Sturridge
........,,.Suarez. Coutihno. Moses
.............,...... Gerrard. Lucas
Simply because I hate seeing Lucas on a team sheet without seeing Sub first
Sent from a mobile device - apologies for any crap
....................... Sturridge
........,,.Suarez. Coutihno. Moses
.............,...... Gerrard. Lucas
Simply because I hate seeing Lucas on a team sheet without seeing Sub first
Sent from a mobile device - apologies for any crap
[article=http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/aug/30/tactical-analysis-liverpool-luis-suarez]While Luis Suárez remains Liverpool's most valuable footballer, there is an increasing suspicion the side is more cohesive without him. Since Brendan Rodgers took charge, Liverpool have played seven Premier League matches without the striker, collecting six victories and one draw.
[hl]Suárez's main weakness is his insistence on doing everything solo. Last season he attempted to dribble past opponents 95 times and had 187 shots at goal – in both respects, more regularly than any other player in the Premier League. It is frequently successful and often spectacular but sometimes frustrates team-mates.[/hl]
The Uruguayan's single-minded approach was understandable in the first half of last season. Fabio Borini's injury problems meant Suárez was starting alongside Suso and Raheem Sterling, two untested youngsters, so he had a huge amount of responsibility.
The January signings of Philippe Coutinho and Daniel Sturridge, however, provided Liverpool with two new attacking weapons that function perfectly together – the Brazilian's speciality is sliding pinpoint through balls between defenders, while Sturridge excels when playing high up against the opposition's backline, sprinting in behind.
The duo's first game together without Suárez – when he was starting his ban for biting Branislav Ivanovic – was the 6-0 victory at Newcastle. They combined perfectly for the second goal: with a casual pass using the outside of his right foot, Coutinho slipped the ball through the defence for Sturridge, who passed to Jordan Henderson to tap into an empty net. For the third goal, they combined almost identically, with Sturridge providing the finish himself, and in the midweek Capital One Cup win over Notts Country, Coutinho again assisted Sturridge.
The striker particularly likes working the inside-right channel, and given Nemanja Vidic's past struggles at Anfield, Rodgers will be hoping the combination of Coutinho's through balls and Sturridge's pace proves crucial yet again. This fixture could do without Suárez's antics for once – and so far this season, Liverpool aren't missing him either.[/article]
[hl]Suárez's main weakness is his insistence on doing everything solo. Last season he attempted to dribble past opponents 95 times and had 187 shots at goal – in both respects, more regularly than any other player in the Premier League. It is frequently successful and often spectacular but sometimes frustrates team-mates.[/hl]
The Uruguayan's single-minded approach was understandable in the first half of last season. Fabio Borini's injury problems meant Suárez was starting alongside Suso and Raheem Sterling, two untested youngsters, so he had a huge amount of responsibility.
The January signings of Philippe Coutinho and Daniel Sturridge, however, provided Liverpool with two new attacking weapons that function perfectly together – the Brazilian's speciality is sliding pinpoint through balls between defenders, while Sturridge excels when playing high up against the opposition's backline, sprinting in behind.
The duo's first game together without Suárez – when he was starting his ban for biting Branislav Ivanovic – was the 6-0 victory at Newcastle. They combined perfectly for the second goal: with a casual pass using the outside of his right foot, Coutinho slipped the ball through the defence for Sturridge, who passed to Jordan Henderson to tap into an empty net. For the third goal, they combined almost identically, with Sturridge providing the finish himself, and in the midweek Capital One Cup win over Notts Country, Coutinho again assisted Sturridge.
The striker particularly likes working the inside-right channel, and given Nemanja Vidic's past struggles at Anfield, Rodgers will be hoping the combination of Coutinho's through balls and Sturridge's pace proves crucial yet again. This fixture could do without Suárez's antics for once – and so far this season, Liverpool aren't missing him either.[/article]
This is from his arrival in the Premiership up until May this year, so doesn't include our great start :
statistics made downing look like a world beater. fact is, suarez is world class and better than aspas.
Misreading stats, placing emphasis on stupid stats etc might have made Downing look like a world beater to some fucking idiots, but not the majority.
Suarez is a better player than Aspas. Yes.
but simply adding good players doesn't make a team function better. We function better without the highly inefficient greedy twat up front. FACT
26 goals is inefficient? Sure, compared to Messi and Ronaldo, but compared to most, that is impressive results.
This is from his arrival in the Premiership up until May this year, so doesn't include our great start :
Stats don't tell the whole story, you know it, i know it, everyone knows it. So why point out a pointless stat? Like Red maradonna said stats got us downing and also got us carroll, charlie adam. Suarez has so much more to his game than the stats show. Suarez is world class and a match winner, aspas isn't. Its really that simple.
True, but how about Suarez not playing up front like before? I think by the time Suarez comes back into the side, Sturridge will have cemented his place as the top striker, and we'll likely see Suarez play off Sturridge, a role in which he excelled in at Ajax. That could be interesting.
This is from his arrival in the Premiership up until May this year, so doesn't include our great start :
These things are bollocks, there was one for Gerrard about 5years ago when he was in his pomp, and he was out for a few games. We're a better team with Gerrard out there and the same with Suarez.
The difference is now, is that Suarez isn't our only option, when at times he has been.
Temper temper. You're supposed to be the cool, arrogant one that talks complete bollocks with selective stats. Keep at it. And get some calcium in you.
The unbeaten run has made him all light headed, the dizzy idiot.
And of the two, Suarez is the one that's performed consistently well on the wing during his career (at Ajax).
So it should hopefully work out very well.
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