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Watford vs Liverpool : Match Thread

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The sad thing isn't that we are losing but that we don't look threatening at all and aren't pressing anywhere 🙁
 
I've been saying it for a while mate ... he's got a very average final ball to him ...
I find it hard to slag him off that when we have so little movement in & around the box though. You need players in the box to hit it first time, he gets there & then has to stop & pull it back to allow players to try to move for it.

That move he had easy options though & still failed to play it.
 
Benteke has to come on for Firmino. Anyone to come on for Lallana.

It was a poor team selection and yet another dire display. Lucas has been comically awful, Bogdan seems to be disabled, and Skrtel went off to save his own embarrassment.

Firmino and Lallana cost Liverpool 54m pounds.

I feel sick.
Is this the 25th post you've made about Lucas having a bad game! Not that I'm saying he's been great but there isn't one player who's been good for us so far. Every time Can or Clyne or Lallana or Firmino (I had to double check that he was still playing) has fucked up do you shout at the telly 'FUCKING LUCAS'. Try and look past you're obvious dislike of one player and see how bad every player has been for fucks sake.
 
When Klopp wins a game, he's a genius who can get the shit Rodgers bought performing at a higher level.

When Klopp loses a game, Not even a genius can get the shit Rodgers bought performing at a higher level.

Has time ceased to exist for you, or have you time-travelled to compare Klopp in four years with Rodgers this season?
 
I know. But apparently it's great that Klopp wants to work with these players and not buy anyone, because our squad is good enough to get Top 4, and Klopp is basically magic.

Read that a lot. Laughed a lot
I can't truly believe klopp won't buy in january. He needs players in all areas of the pitch.
 
Missed the first 3 minutes and saw 1 replay. It looked like the ball was kicked out of his hands?
It was. But there were three errors :
  1. Bogdan should have caught it.
  2. Why didn't we have a player protecting the keeper ? I though that was de rigour nowadays. There were 2-3 Watford players around our keeper .. and not a red shirt for 2-3m.
  3. How the hell did Clattenburg not catch that it was kicked out of his hands ?
Anyways we are still playing like utter shite. Can is doing my head in with his atrocious passing, WTF is Clyne doing on our right and where is Henderson ? When he gets the ball he is spreading it wide like he should, get him on the ball more. Lucas is fucking awful - trying to take out the man cost us the 2nd goal. Do we have a front line ? Coutinho is looking the epitome of frustration.
 
Clyne is godawful at picking a pass when he gets near the penalty area. Fecking woeful. Coutinho needs taking outside and having the shit beaten out of him, the cowardly git.
 
I find it hard to slag him off that when we have so little movement in & around the box though. You need players in the box to hit it first time, he gets there & then has to stop & pull it back to allow players to try to move for it.

That move he had easy options though & still failed to play it.

That's a fair point - I think he's a great defensive FB, but I've yet to see anything that gives me confidence he can be a complete fullback. It's a far better scenario than Magic, but he's not as good as I thought he was.
 
Is this the 25th post you've made about Lucas having a bad game! Not that I'm saying he's been great but there isn't one player who's been good for us so far. Every time Can or Clyne or Lallana or Firmino (I had to double check that he was still playing) has fucked up do you shout at the telly 'FUCKING LUCAS'. Try and look past you're obvious dislike of one player and see how bad every player has been for fucks sake.

He's our defensive midfielder. And is the worst defensive midfielder in the entire league. A weak, slow, easily brushed aside non-entity who can't do anything even approaching proficiency. Slow passing, no clue how to build an attack, doesn't protect the defence.

Awful

But you're right, he isn't solely to blame, as soon as that team sheet came out I feared the worst, because there's no pace or goals anywhere in it
 
I'm not sure we'll ever know how this was meant to look, thanks to that early error, and a fantastic bit of striking, however I'm not sure this team makes a lot of sense against how Watford play, even with two up front. If we got the first goal, maybe, but it's strange.

It's clear what klopp thinks of benteke, which isn't exactly going to motivate him. Figuring out how to use him is the challenge he must figure out, rather than figuring out every way not to. Or he has to buy a striker.
 
At one point there Bogdan approached Clattenburg and asked him about the first goal. Clattenburg seemed to be saying Bogdan may have had his hands on it but didn't have it under control. If the rule specifically says the ball has to be under control, it was the right decision IMO.
 
Skrtel, Lucas, Bogdan and Lallana have been horrendous.

Klopp probably has to buy a CB and GK to even get this defence look anything like a normal one.
And a central midfielder. But we've known about those 3 positions for 2 years now.

Conceding after 2 mins just fucks up the entire game plan. And then with the first shot on goal after that aswell.
We dont look like scoring, more like conceding a couple.
Wont win today and top 4 looks like a pipe dream.
 
At one point there Bogdan approached Clattenburg and asked him about the first goal. Clattenburg seemed to be saying Bogdan may have had his hands on it but didn't have it under control. If the rule specifically says the ball has to be under control, it was the right decision IMO.
I think it does tbh. They made the rule slightly ambiguous to allow for that type of thing, cos there's no way a ref can see if a keeper has both hands on it for a split second, but it's easy enough to see if it's held properly.
 
I can't truly believe klopp won't buy in january. He needs players in all areas of the pitch.

When Klopp first arrived I thought he'd maybe buy just one or two in January and save his main business for the summer. Far from sure about it now.
 
Boromir: One does not simply walk into Watford. Not with 11 players could you do this. It is folly...
 
Skrtel, Lucas, Bogdan and Lallana have been horrendous.

Klopp probably has to buy a CB and GK to even get this defence look anything like a normal one.
And a central midfielder. But we've known about those 3 positions for 2 years now.

Conceding after 2 mins just fucks up the entire game plan. And then with the first shot on goal after that aswell.
We dont look like scoring, more like conceding a couple.
Wont win today and top 4 looks like a pipe dream.

Yeah, how fucking long have we been saying new CB, new keeper and new defensive midfielder? Years.

And since losing Sterling and Sturridge to injury, we also need a quick attacker to replace him and ensure Lallana doesn't play, and a new striker to make sure Firmino isn't on the pitch again.
 
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