Villas Boas
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45135.msg1352533#msg1352533 date=1308606504]
[quote author=Dylan link=topic=45135.msg1352518#msg1352518 date=1308605458]
Big risk this for Chelsea and if it goes wrong, ie they finish 2nd and don't win the Champions League, where do they look next? He might be great but with Roman's track record, anything short of that and this won't end well for them or him.
[/quote]Youre my new favourite. Fuck all these other fools.
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Indeed I think it is foolhardy in Chelseas position to be honest, one of a team that needs a rebuild - one swallow seems to have made the summer.
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[quote author=Dylan link=topic=45135.msg1352518#msg1352518 date=1308605458]
Big risk this for Chelsea and if it goes wrong, ie they finish 2nd and don't win the Champions League, where do they look next? He might be great but with Roman's track record, anything short of that and this won't end well for them or him.
[/quote]Youre my new favourite. Fuck all these other fools.
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Indeed I think it is foolhardy in Chelseas position to be honest, one of a team that needs a rebuild - one swallow seems to have made the summer.
regards
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45135.msg1352533#msg1352533 date=1308606504]
[quote author=Dylan link=topic=45135.msg1352518#msg1352518 date=1308605458]
Big risk this for Chelsea and if it goes wrong, ie they finish 2nd and don't win the Champions League, where do they look next? He might be great but with Roman's track record, anything short of that and this won't end well for them or him.
[/quote]Youre my new favourite. Fuck all these other fools.
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Indeed I think it is foolhardy in Chelseas position to be honest, one of a team that needs a rebuild - one swallow seems to have made the summer.
regards
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I think the russian thinks boas is a good fit
1) he is a european winner (uefa)
2) he plays attacking football
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45135.msg1352533#msg1352533 date=1308606504]
[quote author=Dylan link=topic=45135.msg1352518#msg1352518 date=1308605458]
Big risk this for Chelsea and if it goes wrong, ie they finish 2nd and don't win the Champions League, where do they look next? He might be great but with Roman's track record, anything short of that and this won't end well for them or him.
[/quote]Youre my new favourite. Fuck all these other fools.
[/quote]
Indeed I think it is foolhardy in Chelseas position to be honest, one of a team that needs a rebuild - one swallow seems to have made the summer.
regards
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I think the russian thinks boas is a good fit
1) he is a european winner (uefa)
2) he plays attacking football
[quote author=The Duck link=topic=45135.msg1353215#msg1353215 date=1308732541]
He's got very short arms.....
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:laugh:
I think he'll do a good job at the Chavs. His Porto team played some great attacking football. I don't care too much how well they perform, so long as we out perform them over the season.
He's got very short arms.....
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:laugh:
I think he'll do a good job at the Chavs. His Porto team played some great attacking football. I don't care too much how well they perform, so long as we out perform them over the season.
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=45135.msg1353220#msg1353220 date=1308733493]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45135.msg1352533#msg1352533 date=1308606504]
[quote author=Dylan link=topic=45135.msg1352518#msg1352518 date=1308605458]
Big risk this for Chelsea and if it goes wrong, ie they finish 2nd and don't win the Champions League, where do they look next? He might be great but with Roman's track record, anything short of that and this won't end well for them or him.
[/quote]Youre my new favourite. Fuck all these other fools.
[/quote]
Indeed I think it is foolhardy in Chelseas position to be honest, one of a team that needs a rebuild - one swallow seems to have made the summer.
regards
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I think the russian thinks boas is a good fit
1) he is a european winner (uefa)
2) he plays attacking football
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Clearly he does, but it is still a big gamble, we could have won that cup and we were crud.
Attacking football does not necessarily win you trophies, and as I said there is a lot to be done at Chelsea this year as task that even a seasoned campaigner would find testing.
Had we taken him before Kenny it would have been less of a risk, we did not have as much to lose.
regards
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45135.msg1352533#msg1352533 date=1308606504]
[quote author=Dylan link=topic=45135.msg1352518#msg1352518 date=1308605458]
Big risk this for Chelsea and if it goes wrong, ie they finish 2nd and don't win the Champions League, where do they look next? He might be great but with Roman's track record, anything short of that and this won't end well for them or him.
[/quote]Youre my new favourite. Fuck all these other fools.
[/quote]
Indeed I think it is foolhardy in Chelseas position to be honest, one of a team that needs a rebuild - one swallow seems to have made the summer.
regards
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I think the russian thinks boas is a good fit
1) he is a european winner (uefa)
2) he plays attacking football
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Clearly he does, but it is still a big gamble, we could have won that cup and we were crud.
Attacking football does not necessarily win you trophies, and as I said there is a lot to be done at Chelsea this year as task that even a seasoned campaigner would find testing.
Had we taken him before Kenny it would have been less of a risk, we did not have as much to lose.
regards
I think it's a huge risk for Chelsea and for Villas Boas himself. His new-found reputation can be undermined in a season or two at Chelsea. He's up against two of the greatest British managers in English football as well as Wenger, in a league he knows little about. Chelsea is not a stable club as far as managers are concerned.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=45135.msg1353256#msg1353256 date=1308742913]
I don't think that's strictly true. He's worked at Chelsea under Mourinho already, hasn't he?
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he has?
I don't think that's strictly true. He's worked at Chelsea under Mourinho already, hasn't he?
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he has?
Yes, but not in a senior role.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=45135.msg1353277#msg1353277 date=1308745792]
The same things you guys are saying could've been said about Guardiola when he took the Barca job.
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better platform for success already in place, talented youth already introduced
The same things you guys are saying could've been said about Guardiola when he took the Barca job.
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better platform for success already in place, talented youth already introduced
i've got 2 important points to make about this fellow:
1. he's glamourous and exciting but young and unproven - he might perform excellently and take chelsea to great success, but he could also prove to be disappointing and too inexperienced for such a demanding role.
2. his surname reminds me of the Pulp Fiction character Esmerelda Villa Lobos's surname, because it contains a lot of the same letters and the same 2 word format.
1. he's glamourous and exciting but young and unproven - he might perform excellently and take chelsea to great success, but he could also prove to be disappointing and too inexperienced for such a demanding role.
2. his surname reminds me of the Pulp Fiction character Esmerelda Villa Lobos's surname, because it contains a lot of the same letters and the same 2 word format.
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[quote author=keniget link=topic=45135.msg1353277#msg1353277 date=1308745792]
The same things you guys are saying could've been said about Guardiola when he took the Barca job.
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better platform for success already in place, talented youth already introduced
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Splintered dressing room, Eto'o, Ronaldinho, Deco to deal with / phase out...
Of course they had an exceptionally talented team that was more or less waiting to start winning again and I'm not saying the challenges being faced by Boas are the same... merely that there were a lot of people at the time concerning themselves with Guardiola's age, lack of experience and what not in the same way they are with Villas Boas. If anything Villas Boas has more experience.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=45135.msg1353277#msg1353277 date=1308745792]
The same things you guys are saying could've been said about Guardiola when he took the Barca job.
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better platform for success already in place, talented youth already introduced
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Splintered dressing room, Eto'o, Ronaldinho, Deco to deal with / phase out...
Of course they had an exceptionally talented team that was more or less waiting to start winning again and I'm not saying the challenges being faced by Boas are the same... merely that there were a lot of people at the time concerning themselves with Guardiola's age, lack of experience and what not in the same way they are with Villas Boas. If anything Villas Boas has more experience.
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the_khl
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The main difference between Pep Guardiola at Barca and Villas Boas at Chelsea is that one has been born and breed into the club he then eventually overtook as manager whereas the other are not only changing climate but also league, language and playing-style. A completely different task lying ahead of the young Portoguese.
Not saying Villas Boas will do poorly but that's a focal point when comparing the two. IMO.
Not saying Villas Boas will do poorly but that's a focal point when comparing the two. IMO.
This is a huge gamble... Jose suceed because his teams played well off the ball, which is allways easier than having a team play well when they have the ball.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=45135.msg1353305#msg1353305 date=1308748903]
The main difference between Pep Guardiola at Barca and Villas Boas at Chelsea is that one has been born and breed into the club he then eventually overtook as manager whereas the other are not only changing climate but also league, language and playing-style. A completely different task lying ahead of the young Portoguese.
Not saying Villas Boas will do poorly but that's a focal point when comparing the two. IMO.
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Villas Boas is fluent in English I think. There are risks, but for me, if Villas Boas ere to be appointed back in January after Woy left, I think I'd be more excited than cautious. Just my personal opinion though.
The main difference between Pep Guardiola at Barca and Villas Boas at Chelsea is that one has been born and breed into the club he then eventually overtook as manager whereas the other are not only changing climate but also league, language and playing-style. A completely different task lying ahead of the young Portoguese.
Not saying Villas Boas will do poorly but that's a focal point when comparing the two. IMO.
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Villas Boas is fluent in English I think. There are risks, but for me, if Villas Boas ere to be appointed back in January after Woy left, I think I'd be more excited than cautious. Just my personal opinion though.
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the_khl
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[quote author=KHL link=topic=45135.msg1353305#msg1353305 date=1308748903]
The main difference between Pep Guardiola at Barca and Villas Boas at Chelsea is that one has been born and breed into the club he then eventually overtook as manager whereas the other are not only changing climate but also league, language and playing-style. A completely different task lying ahead of the young Portoguese.
Not saying Villas Boas will do poorly but that's a focal point when comparing the two. IMO.
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Villas Boas is fluent in English I think. There are risks, but for me, if Villas Boas ere to be appointed back in January after Roy left, I think I'd be more excited than cautious. Just my personal opinion though.
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The language-barrier is not the biggest worry though. Just one of many variables that didn't influence Pep taking over in Barca when comparing the two.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=45135.msg1353305#msg1353305 date=1308748903]
The main difference between Pep Guardiola at Barca and Villas Boas at Chelsea is that one has been born and breed into the club he then eventually overtook as manager whereas the other are not only changing climate but also league, language and playing-style. A completely different task lying ahead of the young Portoguese.
Not saying Villas Boas will do poorly but that's a focal point when comparing the two. IMO.
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Villas Boas is fluent in English I think. There are risks, but for me, if Villas Boas ere to be appointed back in January after Roy left, I think I'd be more excited than cautious. Just my personal opinion though.
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The language-barrier is not the biggest worry though. Just one of many variables that didn't influence Pep taking over in Barca when comparing the two.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=45135.msg1353311#msg1353311 date=1308749280]
How does he even wipe his own arse with those tiny arms, the serendipitous motherfucker?
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With a rag on a stick.
I can't see the likes of brave john terry and the rest taking orders off someone who is only 33. It would be funny if he banged terry's ugly bird though.
How does he even wipe his own arse with those tiny arms, the serendipitous motherfucker?
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With a rag on a stick.
I can't see the likes of brave john terry and the rest taking orders off someone who is only 33. It would be funny if he banged terry's ugly bird though.
I knew there was nothing fucking special about this football management lark.
It's just that it's always ex-players who go for it. Think about it... what are most footballers?.... That's right... Fucking thick as fuck with zero managerial skills. The talent pool is thus tiny. Then you get intelligent professional people, like I dunno, us, deifying these fucking twats when they're half decent at it.
If there was true competition, like anyone could train up and have a go... I doubt there'd be many ex players at it, if any at all.
It's just that it's always ex-players who go for it. Think about it... what are most footballers?.... That's right... Fucking thick as fuck with zero managerial skills. The talent pool is thus tiny. Then you get intelligent professional people, like I dunno, us, deifying these fucking twats when they're half decent at it.
If there was true competition, like anyone could train up and have a go... I doubt there'd be many ex players at it, if any at all.
[quote author=Krump link=topic=45135.msg1353321#msg1353321 date=1308750745]
I knew there was nothing fucking special about this football management lark.
It's just that it's always ex-players who go for it. Think about it... what are most footballers?.... That's right... Fucking thick as fuck with zero managerial skills. The talent pool is thus tiny. Then you get intelligent professional people, like I dunno, us, deifying these fucking twats when they're half decent at it.
If there was true competition, like anyone could train up and have a go... I doubt there'd be many ex players at it, if any at all.
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i agree. competition does tend to force standards higher, although ironically the very competitive nature of british professional football doesn't seem to have encouraged clubs to seek the advantages that might exist by broadening their search for coaches/managers. as competitive as it is, it's perhaps even more risk-averse...it's a strange industry.
I knew there was nothing fucking special about this football management lark.
It's just that it's always ex-players who go for it. Think about it... what are most footballers?.... That's right... Fucking thick as fuck with zero managerial skills. The talent pool is thus tiny. Then you get intelligent professional people, like I dunno, us, deifying these fucking twats when they're half decent at it.
If there was true competition, like anyone could train up and have a go... I doubt there'd be many ex players at it, if any at all.
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i agree. competition does tend to force standards higher, although ironically the very competitive nature of british professional football doesn't seem to have encouraged clubs to seek the advantages that might exist by broadening their search for coaches/managers. as competitive as it is, it's perhaps even more risk-averse...it's a strange industry.
He's like a fucking T-Rex.
Tiny armed MoFo.
He gonna fail. I gonna laugh.
Like this, HAHAHAHA.
Tiny armed MoFo.
He gonna fail. I gonna laugh.
Like this, HAHAHAHA.
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