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I don't know much about the guy - did he make many big money transfers when at Bayern or Barca?
Barca

Rivaldo (20.6 million)
Sonny Anderson (15.8 million)
Reiziger (7 million)
Dugarry (4 million)
Bogarde (3.25 million)
Pellegrino (2.28 millon)
Ruud Hesp (0.968 million)
Dragan Ciric (0.792 million)
Ronald de Boer (6.6 million)
Frank de Boer (6.6 million)
Kluivert (17.6 million)
Zenden (10.5 million)
Cocu (free)
Simao (2.64 million)
Dani (12.3 million)
Frederic Dehu (4.84 million)
Litmanen (3.5 million)
Riquelme (8.8 million)

Bayern

Robben (21.2 million)
Gomez (26.4 million)
Tymoschchuk (9.6 million)
Pranjic (6.7 million)
Braafheid (1.7 million)
Olic (free)
Baumjohann (free)
Luiz Gustavo (15 million)

Also brought through Muller, Badstuber, Alaba and Kroos into the first team
 
Apologies if quiffing but this made me laugh

Wayne Rooney has reportedly asked senior Manchester United officials not to appoint Louis van Gaal as manager this summer.
Van Gaal is the favourite to take up the hot seat at Old Trafford, following the sacking of David Moyes last week.
But according to reports, Rooney has asked the board to consider somebody else – as he is not a fan of the Dutchman’s hard-line methods.
The Daily Mail claims that Rooney, who has a strong influence over the goings on at United after signing a new contract recently, believes Van Gaal would overlook him as the next captain and would challenge his authority with the players.
It’s not clear whether the board will listen, but Van Gaal is yet to sign anything, meaning it would be easy for United to look elsewhere.
Ha ha! Brilliant. I love this season.
 
It's not those players he needs performing. Everything I've read about leads me to believe the players will hate him.
I doubt he'll care - there are not too many players in that squad other than de Gea, Jones, Rooney, Mata and RVP worth persevering with.

Looking at his record, van Gaal dumps players he doesn't like pronto. He likes to buy his own players and bring through young players - he's done that at Ajax and AZ, and at Barca (the likes of Xavi, Puyol, Garcia and Gabri made their breakthrough with him) and Bayern (Muller, Kroos, Alaba, Badstuber) as well. He'll put his own stamp on the team if the Mancs back him enough.

I hope the bust-ups happen sooner rather than later.
 
By the looks of redcafe, the scum fans really aren't sure what to make of him. A poll with 500+ voters went 33% yes, 66% no or undecided.
They were all under the delusion they could cherry pick any manager in the world they fancied, so they were all squabbling over whether it was to be pep/klopp/mourinho or ancelotti.
Van Gaal has been whoring himself out for quite some time to anyone that would listen, sounding a bit desperate. So I'm not sure how positive that is.
If he comes in it'll surely knacker their summer recruitment as he'll have no idea what he needs, or what is coming and going. With a mass exodus likely. And he'll be tied up looking after his current team until late in the summer. It'll be a bit of a piss take if he tries to run two contracts at once and waltzes into old trafford trying to take over any time soon.

It'd be nice if they fell on their arse again with him, but he's a bit of an unknown quantity I guess. They could be champions again next season or finish 7th again and he gets the boot. He's been sacked at Barca and Bayern, and forced to resign at Barca and Ajax.
Typical Spoiled Scumfans.... Can't even get 100% of the voters to vote...
 
Also worth noting:

He took over a Barca team (from Robson) that scored 102 goals in the league and finished in 2nd place, 2 points off the champions.

The Bayern Munich team he took over finished 2nd too (67 pts), also 2 points from champions. (As mentioned, he won the title in his 1st season with 70 pts after nett spending £60m. They did finish runners-up in CL though.)
 
Also worth noting:

He took over a Barca team (from Robson) that scored 102 goals in the league and finished in 2nd place, 2 points off the champions.

The Bayern Munich team he took over finished 2nd too (67 pts), also 2 points from champions. (As mentioned, he won the title in his 1st season with 70 pts after nett spending £60m. They did finish runners-up in CL though.)

He got fired in his second season at Bayern because they dropped out of the CL spots I think.
He'll definetly sign some Dutch players
 
He got fired in his second season at Bayern because they dropped out of the CL spots I think.
He'll definetly sign some Dutch players


Yeah, eliminated from Champions League after Round of 16 in March. Team was 4th in the league when he was sacked in April.

I see that Strootman's been linked already.
 
Strootman is the obvious link isn't he? He was linked to them before he moved to Roma. How did he get on Italy this season? I don't watch Italian football.
 
I think the reality really is that the Scum will be challenging for a top 4 spot sooner rather than later. Van Gaal may be disruptive but I can't think of his record and believe that a team managed by him won't challenge for a CL place, especially if they spend the kind of money they're reported to be willing to spend.

We'd love for them to disappear into obscurity, but with the kind of revenues they generate, that's highly unlikely. I don't think we could've asked for more than someone like Moyes giving us plenty of laughs and delaying their rebuild by a year. Van Gaal will get them back on track, but the hope will be that even if they do challenge, they struggle to win; and that Van Gaal starts his usual disruptive shit again. If 3 years down the line, they've spent 200 million on trophyless top 4 challenges, I think I'd be fairly happy. They'd then need to hunt for a young-ish manager again, and hopefully they will get it horribly wrong again.
 
I doubt he'll care - there are not too many players in that squad other than de Gea, Jones, Rooney, Mata and RVP worth persevering with.

Looking at his record, van Gaal dumps players he doesn't like pronto. He likes to buy his own players and bring through young players - he's done that at Ajax and AZ, and at Barca (the likes of Xavi, Puyol, Garcia and Gabri made their breakthrough with him) and Bayern (Muller, Kroos, Alaba, Badstuber) as well. He'll put his own stamp on the team if the Mancs back him enough.

I hope the bust-ups happen sooner rather than later.

Badstuber's cr@p IMHO, but otherwise that's an impressive list. That kind of development programme would do the Mancs a heck of a lot of good.

As you say, here's hoping the civil war gets going PDQ. The good news is that's quite likely under van Gaal.
 
Hasnt managed a club since '11 I think.
Wont start working until after the WC.

He's a nutter but a brilliant coach on his day. Dont know what to expect actually. I hope he falla out with everyone.
Will probably attract some good players for them though.


I can't help but read that in a stereotypical, slightly racist, Italian accent.
 
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Pretty sure people wanted him for our manager when Rodgers got appointed.

Hopefully, he'll do a Souness and cause mayhem by ripping it all up.
 
He's a typical Dutch football protagonist; arrogant and divisive.

He's also usually best as a stabilising coach before handing over to a longer term boss, but he does win things. However, given the rebuilding job and the massive egos already at the club, I foresee it ending in tears for them. They will then appoint Giggs and the other class of 92 nobheads and end up with Leeds in the championship.

Please remember, I predicted we'd be top at Xmas back in October and that we'd win it at Palace in Jan. So I have a 50% strike rate on outlandish predictions...
 
Pretty sure people wanted him for our manager when Rodgers got appointed.

Hopefully, he'll do a Souness and cause mayhem by ripping it all up.

He was widely touted as a DoF over Rodgers until Brendan put his foot down.
 
Also worth noting:

He took over a Barca team (from Robson) that scored 102 goals in the league and finished in 2nd place, 2 points off the champions.

The Bayern Munich team he took over finished 2nd too (67 pts), also 2 points from champions. (As mentioned, he won the title in his 1st season with 70 pts after nett spending £60m. They did finish runners-up in CL though.)

Exactly. He's an interim. Not a rebuilder. Van Gaal in!
 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/01/manchester-united-louis-van-gaal-mehmet-scholl

Manchester United players will find Van Gaal 'difficult' - Mehmet Scholl
• Ex-Bayern assistant says coach has 'problems with big players'
• 'He is a genius … and exactly the right coach for United'

Jamie Jackson
The Guardian, Thursday 1 May 2014 22.30 BST

Manchester United have been warned that Louis van Gaal's potential appointment as manager could put him on collision course with senior players such as Wayne Rooney.

Mehmet Scholl, who won eight Bundesliga titles with Bayern Munich and was their reserve team coach under Van Gaal, believes the Dutchman is a "genius coach" who will guarantee success for United. But he is unsure how long this will last.

Van Gaal is expected to be appointed by the middle of next week – he wants a deal in place by 7 May when he joins his Dutch-based players to begin their World Cup preparation. And Scholl told the Guardian: "He's very strict and severe. So the players just have the chance to follow him or they are out and he takes the next players. He's very good with young players. I think everywhere he was he had some problems with big players and the staff."

Van Gaal, who is the Holland coach until after the summer's World Cup, has previously managed Ajax, Barcelona, AZ Alkmaar and Bayern during his club career. Though he has won championships with all of these teams, the 62-year-old's longest tenure was his six years at Ajax before spending three at Barca, four with AZ and two at Bayern.

Asked how Van Gaal has achieved this success if he can fall out with senior players and staff, Scholl said: "There are 26, 27 players and he is looking for the 14 to follow him – 14, 15, 16 to follow. His thing is not the motivation [man-management]. He's good in motivation but this is not his main character thing.

"His thing is really working on the pitch – that's brilliant. And that's how the players learn. You know by yourself that if you learn from somebody you are curious, you want to learn more.

" Some of the players, I can tell you, like Rooney, I don't think he has to learn anything more. So that will be difficult for him if the coach says: 'You have to do it in a completely different way. Whatever you did until now, change it.'"

While Rooney is United's highest-paid player, Van Gaal enjoys a close relationship with Robin van Persie, the club's next best-rewarded footballer, naming his countryman as Holland captain, and the pair were regularly seen together at matches during Van Persie's recent recuperation from a knee injury. "I think the education is the thing," said the former midfielder Scholl. "The thing Van Gaal teaches is the same thing Van Persie learned from the very beginning. So there, I think, there will be no big problem. Of course he is a big player but he is a Dutch player. That's the thing and the difference to Rooney."

Asked about Van Gaal often staying for only truncated periods with clubs, Scholl said: "Yeah, I think he's for the moment exactly the right coach for United and United will be successful again with him. That's without doubt. That will come. The thing is he is very – he wants a lot of things from the players and, for the players, it is not easy to satisfy him all the time and so after several months, one or two years, it gets less what the players learn.

"We're not computers. Sometimes the brain is full. And he still wants [you] to learn, to learn, to learn, high level, every day. Is it annoying? No. It's exhausting. They lose power. That's what happened at Bayern Munich.

"And that's why he often picks young players because they learn and learn and learn. I don't know if he is working still the same. I just can tell you what happened in Bayern Munich."

Van Gaal's CV shows four Eredivisie titles, two in La Liga, one Bundesliga, the Champions League and Uefa Cup plus various other trophies for the clubs he has led. "He's a brilliant football coach. The way he likes his team to play is absolutely brilliant," Scholl, 43, said. "His main thing is to keep the ball, to be proactive not passive. He is a genius, he's one of the best I've ever seen on the pitch.

" For the big stars it is not easy to work with him but for the young players he is brilliant. He is brilliant on the pitch and wants them to learn all the time, wants them to learn. Even the old players."
 
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