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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48060.msg1#msg1 date=1325154674]
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Johnson-Skrtel-Agger-Enrique
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This is mine if gerrard isn't ready
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48060.msg1#msg1 date=1325154674]
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This is mine if gerrard isn't ready
Yeah, I think it needs refreshing a bit and I'm tempted to drop Downing, though he has been better of late, we need goals though. Maybe even get Shelvey and Dirk in there, but we'd be horribly slow as a result. Spearing is there to give us a bit more steel and mobility against their midfield.
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I'm sure Gerrard will play at some point. Looked back to hiw own self against Blackburn.
We are due a major win and I reckon it'll come tomorrow. 4-0 us.
We are due a major win and I reckon it'll come tomorrow. 4-0 us.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=48060.msg1451377#msg1451377 date=1325155523]
I'm sure Gerrard will play at some point. Looked back to hiw own self against Blackburn.
We are due a major win and I reckon it'll come tomorrow. 4-0 us.
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It'd be ironic without Suarez, but as they say, it's a funny old game. He's still been great but he couldn't hit a cows arse and despite the fact that he is the main source of creativity, he hasn't been at his best of late compared to how he can play. We need to show, once again, that we're not a one man team. With that back four we've got the foundation there, we just need the right blend in midfield and attack, and the right attitude. Someone said yesterday that we've been 'outplayed' by the two bottom of the table sides, which is just nonsense, we've played them off the park, we just lack a cutting edge.
I'm sure Gerrard will play at some point. Looked back to hiw own self against Blackburn.
We are due a major win and I reckon it'll come tomorrow. 4-0 us.
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It'd be ironic without Suarez, but as they say, it's a funny old game. He's still been great but he couldn't hit a cows arse and despite the fact that he is the main source of creativity, he hasn't been at his best of late compared to how he can play. We need to show, once again, that we're not a one man team. With that back four we've got the foundation there, we just need the right blend in midfield and attack, and the right attitude. Someone said yesterday that we've been 'outplayed' by the two bottom of the table sides, which is just nonsense, we've played them off the park, we just lack a cutting edge.
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48060.msg1451379#msg1451379 date=1325155724]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=48060.msg1451377#msg1451377 date=1325155523]
I'm sure Gerrard will play at some point. Looked back to hiw own self against Blackburn.
We are due a major win and I reckon it'll come tomorrow. 4-0 us.
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It'd be ironic without Suarez, but as they say, it's a funny old game. He's still been great but he couldn't hit a cows arse and despite the fact that he is the main source of creativity, he hasn't been at his best of late compared to how he can play. We need to show, once again, that we're not a one man team. With that back four we've got the foundation there, we just need the right blend in midfield and attack, and the right attitude. Someone said yesterday that we've been 'outplayed' by the two bottom of the table sides, which is just nonsense, we've played them off the park, we just lack a cutting edge.
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I've thought about much the same mate, and it is a funny old game alright. Suarez has been a revelation so far but perhaps he's somehow overshadowed a few others that'll now show their true colours in his absence?
One can always hope.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=48060.msg1451377#msg1451377 date=1325155523]
I'm sure Gerrard will play at some point. Looked back to hiw own self against Blackburn.
We are due a major win and I reckon it'll come tomorrow. 4-0 us.
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It'd be ironic without Suarez, but as they say, it's a funny old game. He's still been great but he couldn't hit a cows arse and despite the fact that he is the main source of creativity, he hasn't been at his best of late compared to how he can play. We need to show, once again, that we're not a one man team. With that back four we've got the foundation there, we just need the right blend in midfield and attack, and the right attitude. Someone said yesterday that we've been 'outplayed' by the two bottom of the table sides, which is just nonsense, we've played them off the park, we just lack a cutting edge.
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I've thought about much the same mate, and it is a funny old game alright. Suarez has been a revelation so far but perhaps he's somehow overshadowed a few others that'll now show their true colours in his absence?
One can always hope.
I love the way everyone is acting like Downing is shit, it amuses me no end.
He's not been bad. He's not been great either, but then considering how often we get players in the box (not often or quickly enough), it aint all his fault. The fella has whipped in more crosses than I've seen someone in a Liverpool shirt do in fucking years.
Yes I think he can do better, & his game has a few easily rectified faults, but TBH, the main one is crossing from to close to the touchline/too late, & as I've just said, we get men in the box very late, so as he doesn't 'do a pennant' & cross without looking, he's almost certainly giving the attackers a chance to get into the box. Unfortunately this also gives their defenders a chance to get into the box & they know exactly what cross is coming as he can only play one type of ball so late.
If we improve our movement upfront & commit more often (yes Carroll, I'm looking at you), Downing will look better IMO.
He's not been bad. He's not been great either, but then considering how often we get players in the box (not often or quickly enough), it aint all his fault. The fella has whipped in more crosses than I've seen someone in a Liverpool shirt do in fucking years.
Yes I think he can do better, & his game has a few easily rectified faults, but TBH, the main one is crossing from to close to the touchline/too late, & as I've just said, we get men in the box very late, so as he doesn't 'do a pennant' & cross without looking, he's almost certainly giving the attackers a chance to get into the box. Unfortunately this also gives their defenders a chance to get into the box & they know exactly what cross is coming as he can only play one type of ball so late.
If we improve our movement upfront & commit more often (yes Carroll, I'm looking at you), Downing will look better IMO.
For the 1st time in 6 seasons I've sold my ticket for this when I am able to go. I can't stand it. The atmosphere is crap. We can't score. It's depressing.
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Kelly Skrtel Agger Enrique
Downing Spearing Adam Bellamy
Shelvey
Carroll
With City 4 days later (?), i wouldn't be surprised if Kenny rested a couple of players.
Kelly Skrtel Agger Enrique
Downing Spearing Adam Bellamy
Shelvey
Carroll
With City 4 days later (?), i wouldn't be surprised if Kenny rested a couple of players.
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=48060.msg1451418#msg1451418 date=1325162616]
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Kelly Skrtel Agger Enrique
Downing Spearing Adam Bellamy
Shelvey
Carroll
With City 4 days later (?), i wouldn't be surprised if Kenny rested a couple of players.
[/quote]Honestly, really and truly, if Maxi doesnt play against Newcastle I will want Kenny sacked.
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Kelly Skrtel Agger Enrique
Downing Spearing Adam Bellamy
Shelvey
Carroll
With City 4 days later (?), i wouldn't be surprised if Kenny rested a couple of players.
[/quote]Honestly, really and truly, if Maxi doesnt play against Newcastle I will want Kenny sacked.
I really want Downing and Carroll to play though.
Guess this could work:
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Defence
Downing Hendo/Spearing Adam Maxi
Bellers Carroll
Guess this could work:
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Defence
Downing Hendo/Spearing Adam Maxi
Bellers Carroll
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48060.msg1451441#msg1451441 date=1325165204]
I dont want Kuyt in there, I think he's been shite this season. He's due a goal though so you neverknow.
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He's not due a goal because he's not been threatening to score
he's been shit, end of.
I dont want Kuyt in there, I think he's been shite this season. He's due a goal though so you neverknow.
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He's not due a goal because he's not been threatening to score
he's been shit, end of.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=48060.msg1451390#msg1451390 date=1325156676]
I love the way everyone is acting like Downing is shit, it amuses me no end.
He's not been bad. He's not been great either, but then considering how often we get players in the box (not often or quickly enough), it aint all his fault. The fella has whipped in more crosses than I've seen someone in a Liverpool shirt do in fucking years.
Yes I think he can do better, & his game has a few easily rectified faults, but TBH, the main one is crossing from to close to the touchline/too late, & as I've just said, we get men in the box very late, so as he doesn't 'do a pennant' & cross without looking, he's almost certainly giving the attackers a chance to get into the box. Unfortunately this also gives their defenders a chance to get into the box & they know exactly what cross is coming as he can only play one type of ball so late.
If we improve our movement upfront & commit more often (yes Carroll, I'm looking at you), Downing will look better IMO.
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What are the tactical reasons behind him being continually outpaced by fullbacks, failing to beat a man and putting in hopeful crosses due to lacking any kind of creativity or invention in the final third?
These are not easily rectified faults. They are the reasons he's never been picked up by a top club till now and the only reason that changed (apparently) is because this particular top club ceased to become a top club and could not attract the type of quality top clubs normally aspire to. Says it all, does it not?
The fact that we're hoping (based on next to no evidence) that another player who isn't good enough will somehow justify his signing is a sad indictment of where we are right now.
I love the way everyone is acting like Downing is shit, it amuses me no end.
He's not been bad. He's not been great either, but then considering how often we get players in the box (not often or quickly enough), it aint all his fault. The fella has whipped in more crosses than I've seen someone in a Liverpool shirt do in fucking years.
Yes I think he can do better, & his game has a few easily rectified faults, but TBH, the main one is crossing from to close to the touchline/too late, & as I've just said, we get men in the box very late, so as he doesn't 'do a pennant' & cross without looking, he's almost certainly giving the attackers a chance to get into the box. Unfortunately this also gives their defenders a chance to get into the box & they know exactly what cross is coming as he can only play one type of ball so late.
If we improve our movement upfront & commit more often (yes Carroll, I'm looking at you), Downing will look better IMO.
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What are the tactical reasons behind him being continually outpaced by fullbacks, failing to beat a man and putting in hopeful crosses due to lacking any kind of creativity or invention in the final third?
These are not easily rectified faults. They are the reasons he's never been picked up by a top club till now and the only reason that changed (apparently) is because this particular top club ceased to become a top club and could not attract the type of quality top clubs normally aspire to. Says it all, does it not?
The fact that we're hoping (based on next to no evidence) that another player who isn't good enough will somehow justify his signing is a sad indictment of where we are right now.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=48060.msg1451463#msg1451463 date=1325167400]
He's created something like 39 chances so far, and with a convarstion rate of 8 % that kind of explains itself why he hasnt delivered assists.
Should have had at least 3-4 goals though, cant get past that.
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Our finishing has been woeful, but I'd like to see all 39 of these chances. They're not simply counting clear cut chances, are they? There will be half chances and probably less than lumped into that total.
He's created something like 39 chances so far, and with a convarstion rate of 8 % that kind of explains itself why he hasnt delivered assists.
Should have had at least 3-4 goals though, cant get past that.
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Our finishing has been woeful, but I'd like to see all 39 of these chances. They're not simply counting clear cut chances, are they? There will be half chances and probably less than lumped into that total.
Outpaced by fullbacks? He's rarely in a straight race with them, & as I noted, his crosses more often than not have come from by the touchline, so that's not an issue.
Quite frankly I think you're being massively unfair on him in most of those criticisms, especially failing to beat a man. On the right he consistently gets past his man & on the left he relies onpassing & timing to get into the right place to cross, quite successively most of the time.
The fact no-one is converting the chances is hardly his fault.
Look at it this way, if we get the ball into the box more often logic tells you that no matter how shit the ball we should score, cos the defenders have to deal with our attackers & the ball. However we rarely have anyone in the box when the ball arrives, so we're simply not capitalising on those chances that he is creating.
Quite frankly I think you're being massively unfair on him in most of those criticisms, especially failing to beat a man. On the right he consistently gets past his man & on the left he relies onpassing & timing to get into the right place to cross, quite successively most of the time.
The fact no-one is converting the chances is hardly his fault.
Look at it this way, if we get the ball into the box more often logic tells you that no matter how shit the ball we should score, cos the defenders have to deal with our attackers & the ball. However we rarely have anyone in the box when the ball arrives, so we're simply not capitalising on those chances that he is creating.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=48060.msg1451481#msg1451481 date=1325169719]
Downing is great for us. We're a 6th placed team and obviously looking to stay there so the more Stewart Downing's we have, the better I say.
Our fans are a bunch of fucking losers.
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Hahaha.
Season greetings X
Downing is great for us. We're a 6th placed team and obviously looking to stay there so the more Stewart Downing's we have, the better I say.
Our fans are a bunch of fucking losers.
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Hahaha.
Season greetings X
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