Pressure and fatigue will have an effect.
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Pressure and fatigue will have an effect.
City play Away at spurs and home to United within 6 days of each other after an away to Palace.
I think people need to calm the fuck down.
We both have the same number of games to play.
Im thinking he means in trouble for his attitude to the sub and walking off. And he will be no doubt.
It has been that number for a month or so now - about 9 or 10 wins... When it was 9 or 10 wins from 15 or 16 games it felt do-able and we'd be able to play a few games with more freedom. Not it is 9 or 10 wins from 11 meaning very very little margin for error, outside of hoping for City to falter.
Exactly
Home to Spurs and away to Utd are hardly bankers for them.
Besides they lost to Newcastle, Palace, Leicester and Chelsea already, very little chance of them winning the next 11 games straight. At the moment Im more concerned about us falling apart than them being invincible. Weve dropped 9 points since new years.
So yeah I did comment his performance, also I was referring to his piss poor attitude towards Klopp.
Damn straight
Fair enough, it's not exactly surprising though if he had, and froggys ratings are laughable. Keita would have made a difference, the lad with no goals or barely any assists?
I struggle to understand how Virgil doesn't get his head to more balls for our offensive corners. He hardly even gets to any when it seemed like he connects for at least 50% of the time when we are defending a corner. He is basically jumping against the same people in each game.
Could you see City losing to Newcastle? Did you predict Spurs losing to Burnley?
The unexpected will happen again this season, we just need to ensure that it happens less to us than to City
He’s not going to improve his stats from the bench. We needed something different and that’s what he’d (hopefully) have done.
After the palace game it was about 12 to win the league. So it’s still on track.
City will have a stupid fixture congestion and playing 120 minutes yesterday could hinder them over the next 6 days.
Have you seen Henderson's stats this season?
It is crystal clear that we need better contribution from midfield in the run in. Hendo has offered little, Keita nada, Fabinho a few assists and Wini a goal and a few assists. Milner is probably the one that have offered anything together with shaq, but both of them seem to struggle with form.
Any word on Firmino?
Btw City haven’t dropped any points against a top team bar us. It’s the so called easy games we could see them slip up
Btw City haven’t dropped any points against a top team bar us. It’s the so called easy games we could see them slip up
That could well change when VAR comes in, cos they way teams stop him isn't legal, but is never enforced as such, & obv that will be enforced much more often.
Missed that but also saw that Laporte did too.
And Laporte.
We could really do with them dropping some points this week to give us a shot in the arm
I dont see us suddenly banging loads of goals past someone & it all coming up roses.
It'll be a good few games before we're close to our best I reckon, with some gradual improvement game by game, we just have to ensure we get maximum points whilst we build up our form.
FWIW, I think citeh are in danger of burning themselves out. They're throwing everything into every game at the moment, & despite the squad depth, he plays a lot of the same players week in week out, & mentally it's gotta take a toll, if not physically.
There's no way I see them taking maximum points in the league, it's just a matter of when & how many points they drop. Logic suggests it'd be toward the end of the campaign that they falter, but with fernandinho out now, who knows?
Logic says they’ll win the league as they’ve been here twice before and done the business.
To Utd and then us.
If he’s being used as a decoy at the back post, with 50p head Matip being the target, I hope they’ll stop doing it pronto.
Loop/float it to Virgil if necessary, let him fight for the ball and wack the second ball in. No more crosses to Matip please.
For a captain to act like an arse when the team and the squad needs to be lifted and made to believe and fight together, Hendo needs to make up for what he did or be bombed out of the squad. Even Gerrard at his head-scratching worst wouldn't have behaved like that in such a high profile game. Time to give the armband to Van Dyke.
We played awful. The opposition had nothing to do with misplaced passes galore, a total lack of creativity and just the one shot on target (from only 7 anyway).
To say nothing of the fact their preparations and plans were reduced to ashes by 3 subs and an injury to Rashford, who was forced to stay on, and yet they still had the best chances.
We didn't play the team that had those results we played a team without a handful of their best players.
I've given credit where it was due, defence, but in attack and midfield creativity that was a horrendous performance and nowhere near what you call 'average'.
I haven't read any match reports or seen any commentator's videos but I can guarantee they will say a massive missed opportunity.
'F*****g hell, what a s*** game': Jurgen Klopp
Im sure they will, and I agree. But your ratings are a joke.
See if you can find ANYONE on ANY paper or ANY media outlet or ANY website ANYWHERE in the world who rated Gini a 3 or Sturridge a 2 or Mane a 3
Thats just fucking embarrassing.
I dont give a shit like, just amusingly bombastic and tragic.
How's about some RAAAAAATTTTIIIIINNNNNNGS?
Don't suppose anyone will look back on that with much fondness. An intense sort of game, that was paradoxically insipid.
United had all sorts of injury issues that disrupted any kind of flow, but while we were certainly in control, United still could have scored one or two. Our display wasn't lacking in effort, but we showed little quality and were creatively bereft. But this isn't an isolated incident. When all the usual carnival barkers and one-eyed fist-pumpers were boring everyone with "it's all in our hands!" and seemed mystified by the lack of positivity over the last few months, the realists and experts know the score.
Fact is, we should have had the title won by now, and we do look to have blown it.
The game against City was the turning point, and I don't care what the table said then, or says now. Now is when we should have been at least 7 point clear. It isn't just points on the board; it's form, momentum and belief. Now is when we should have been looking at protecting a huge lead, but that critical defeat - and yes, it DID fucking matter - was then followed by a pretty shocking down-turn in form and results; points dropped against Leicester, West Ham and United. Games that we didn't deserve to win, or even look like winning.
And the squad is creaking badly, with not enough quality to call on. Firmino's form and output has fallen off a fucking cliff, with a truly dismal ONE goal and ONE assist in his last 8 games. Salah has got one in 5. And what do we have in reserve? A crock who can't run anymore and one of the top flight's worst strikers. And then we come to the stultifying midfield, who have scored about 4 goals between them and offer very little creatively, with Shaqiri and Keita not trusted to start - with good reason, they haven't done enough either.
So, yeah. One point ahead. It won't last, it isn't enough and we've fucked it. Sorry, clappers. But we have.
Allison (7) Much better from him. No fannying about and what little he had to do, he did well. Massive paw stopped Lingard in his tracks.
Milner (4) Not sure why he was played at RB again, with TAA fit. Struggled again, and was below-par defensively and in attack, where his final ball was atrocious.
Virgil (7) Pretty unruffled, as he showed his usual class and calmness to stay in control. So dominant in the air and United steered well clear of him
Matip (6) Good scrap with Lukaku and was more aggressive in his defending and overall play, with some good forays into their half. He was fucking lucky with that stupid own goal though, and given he got away with another one in the last game, he gets a point removed.
Robertson (6) Was solid enough defensively and had one or two decent moments overlapping with his usual determined attacking play, but he seemed to lack a bit of zip, and he looked very tired towards the end.
Fabinho (7) Dominant in the opening stages and looked to exert pressure with clever switching of play and incisive passing. Then seemed to drop back and do a more destructive job, as the game became low quality and attritional.
Wijnaldum (6) Unspectacular and really didn't do anything to influence the game, or change its trajectory. Covered lots of ground and rarely gave the ball away, but we needed more.
Henderson (6) Deservedly kept his place after the impressive performance against Bayern, but he was far less imposing and influential here. Was shunted wider, and while that did mean he kept Pogba quiet, there was a greater need for help in an attacking sense, and this was lacking.
Mane (4) Was as busy and positive as ever with his movement, and Young was palpably nervous whenever Mane ran at him, but his use of the ball was appalling. He looked like his boots were on the wrong feet, and moves broke down with him again and again, as he lost possession and gave the ball away with dreadful passes.
Firmino (4) Should have done much better with an early opportunity after a mistake by Young, but his lack of a genuine killer instinct was again apparent. Did little else before leaving the pitch with a twisted ankle.
Salah (3) Atrocious. Looked slow in body and mind, and just traipsed about the pitch, carelessly losing the ball and offering almost zero goal threat. Not a great time to have the goals dry up.
Subs:
Sturridge (4) Struggled to have any impact, limited movement, no real chances and gave the ball away constantly.
Origi (5) Injected a bit more power and pace, but isn't very good at football.
Shaqiri (5) Erm.....not much really.
Don't suppose anyone will look back on that with much fondness. An intense sort of game, that was paradoxically insipid.
United had all sorts of injury issues that disrupted any kind of flow, but while we were certainly in control, United still could have scored one or two. Our display wasn't lacking in effort, but we showed little quality and were creatively bereft. But this isn't an isolated incident. When all the usual carnival barkers and one-eyed fist-pumpers were boring everyone with "it's all in our hands!" and seemed mystified by the lack of positivity over the last few months, the realists and experts know the score.
Fact is, we should have had the title won by now, and we do look to have blown it.
The game against City was the turning point, and I don't care what the table said then, or says now. Now is when we should have been at least 7 point clear. It isn't just points on the board; it's form, momentum and belief. Now is when we should have been looking at protecting a huge lead, but that critical defeat - and yes, it DID fucking matter - was then followed by a pretty shocking down-turn in form and results; points dropped against Leicester, West Ham and United. Games that we didn't deserve to win, or even look like winning.
And the squad is creaking badly, with not enough quality to call on. Firmino's form and output has fallen off a fucking cliff, with a truly dismal ONE goal and ONE assist in his last 8 games. Salah has got one in 5. And what do we have in reserve? A crock who can't run anymore and one of the top flight's worst strikers. And then we come to the stultifying midfield, who have scored about 4 goals between them and offer very little creatively, with Shaqiri and Keita not trusted to start - with good reason, they haven't done enough either.
So, yeah. One point ahead. It won't last, it isn't enough and we've fucked it. Sorry, clappers. But we have.
Allison (7) Much better from him. No fannying about and what little he had to do, he did well. Massive paw stopped Lingard in his tracks.
Milner (4) Not sure why he was played at RB again, with TAA fit. Struggled again, and was below-par defensively and in attack, where his final ball was atrocious.
Virgil (7) Pretty unruffled, as he showed his usual class and calmness to stay in control. So dominant in the air and United steered well clear of him
Matip (6) Good scrap with Lukaku and was more aggressive in his defending and overall play, with some good forays into their half. He was fucking lucky with that stupid own goal though, and given he got away with another one in the last game, he gets a point removed.
Robertson (6) Was solid enough defensively and had one or two decent moments overlapping with his usual determined attacking play, but he seemed to lack a bit of zip, and he looked very tired towards the end.
Fabinho (7) Dominant in the opening stages and looked to exert pressure with clever switching of play and incisive passing. Then seemed to drop back and do a more destructive job, as the game became low quality and attritional.
Wijnaldum (6) Unspectacular and really didn't do anything to influence the game, or change its trajectory. Covered lots of ground and rarely gave the ball away, but we needed more.
Henderson (6) Deservedly kept his place after the impressive performance against Bayern, but he was far less imposing and influential here. Was shunted wider, and while that did mean he kept Pogba quiet, there was a greater need for help in an attacking sense, and this was lacking.
Mane (4) Was as busy and positive as ever with his movement, and Young was palpably nervous whenever Mane ran at him, but his use of the ball was appalling. He looked like his boots were on the wrong feet, and moves broke down with him again and again, as he lost possession and gave the ball away with dreadful passes.
Firmino (4) Should have done much better with an early opportunity after a mistake by Young, but his lack of a genuine killer instinct was again apparent. Did little else before leaving the pitch with a twisted ankle.
Salah (3) Atrocious. Looked slow in body and mind, and just traipsed about the pitch, carelessly losing the ball and offering almost zero goal threat. Not a great time to have the goals dry up.
Subs:
Sturridge (4) Struggled to have any impact, limited movement, no real chances and gave the ball away constantly.
Origi (5) Injected a bit more power and pace, but isn't very good at football.
Shaqiri (5) Erm.....not much really.
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